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Wed May 11, 2016, 02:44 PM

Good Girl! Elizabeth Warren rules out any VP offers.

Just now on MSNBC. "I love my job" she said.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:45 PM

1. "Good girl" ?

 

Jesus.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #1)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:47 PM

3. What your problem?

Gonna say I'm sexist cause I gave her an atta girl? Would your butt be as twisted if I were talking about a male and said Good boy?

Get over it.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:49 PM

6. I wouldn't like either being said about a man or woman.

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #6)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:08 PM

23. Well I guess you're just a better human being than I am.

M'kay?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #23)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:11 PM

26. K

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #26)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:13 PM

29. Glad I could make you feel better about yourself.

You have a great evening.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #29)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:14 PM

30. And you the same.

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #30)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:50 PM

193. Always trying to get the last word is the biggest sign of immaturity.

 

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #23)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:09 PM

112. You made a mistake, say you are sorry and get back on topic. Why are people so

butt hurt to admit when they are wrong?

I dont know you and I am not picking on you, imagine how much easier today would be for you if you just said

"bad choice of words, sorry"

Seriously.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #112)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:14 PM

116. I'm not wrong.

And I'm not going to change it. I am sick and tired of the man hating club here and I'm not about to kow tow the their damn petty demands.

If what I wrote is so damn horrible and offensive- alert on it. The other option you and every other person who is soooo damn offended by it- can just put my sexist ass on ignore.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #116)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:15 PM

118. Oh, man hating club eh...OK, you are not the kind of person who would be able to do what I

suggested in the first place.

Never mind.

And you are right, you did not make a mistake, you meant to be dismissive and insulting to women.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #116)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:33 PM

133. Aaaaand there it is. nt

 

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Response to Codeine (Reply #133)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:23 PM

162. Yep. Right on que.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #116)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:56 PM

173. As a man, I say you are way wrong.

 

And I'm not going to put your sexist ass on ignore. Creep.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #173)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:58 PM

174. Yeah, ok. whatever.

How'd the alert work for you?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #174)

Wed May 11, 2016, 07:17 PM

175. How does not apologizing work for you in regular life?

 

Probably just as well.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #175)

Wed May 11, 2016, 07:23 PM

176. I'm good, thank you very much.

I have no one to apologize to for anything. My conscience is clean. I owe no one. No problems sleeping, quit smoking a couple years ago. Health issues in check. Knees ache on rainy days, but I guess that has to be expected at my age. Other than that I can't complain. How about you?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #176)

Wed May 11, 2016, 07:27 PM

177. We've all figured that you are the kind who thinks

 

he has no one to apologize to for anything.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #177)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:24 AM

199. You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #199)

Thu May 12, 2016, 11:05 AM

210. It is a bad thing. People who do not apologize when they are wrong, like Trump,

 

are bulls in the China shop of civilization.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #210)

Thu May 12, 2016, 11:20 AM

211. You think comparing me to Trump will offend me?

You're funny. I don't live my life kow towing to peer pressure from those who express fake outrage on an anonymous discussion board.

So go ahead, if it makes you feel like you are superior- make some more comparisons to others you perceive to be despicable human beings because I'm certain giving Senator Warren an atta girl is just the most horrible fucking insult one woman can give another.

Oh, and if you see Senator Warren, please tell her about this horribly offensive post here. I'm sure she'll be so hurt that she'll want to personally express her hurt over it with me.

Better yet, Why don't you follow another of DU's fine upstanding, superior examples of humanism and call me a low life loser and send a big fuck you -to me too?

That ought to make you feel nice and smug and allow closure for the terrible hurt you have suffered on behalf of Senator Elizabeth Warren and all women through out the world.

You have a nice day now.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #211)

Thu May 12, 2016, 11:24 AM

212. I'm not superior, I just do not get into a political discussion on a liberal

 

forum and call women "girls" because I have manners. People like Trump are narcissists and don't ever apologize. Clearly you are not Trump, but you are a narcissist. It's not curable, so it can't be fixed, but you might try to hide it better by not offending in the first place, or at least offer a small, if insincere apology. "Girls" was not your big tell here. That was a context error, and while offensive, would have been forgiven if you hadn't gone on justifying it and bragging about how you never apologize. Try harder to pass as a human.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #212)

Thu May 12, 2016, 11:35 AM

213. Well aren't you just the prim and proper one?

Maybe you should contact Ms Manners and have her give me a chewing out over it?

I didn't offend you. You're just following the Hillary crowd like a good little lamb as you perceive it as the popular thing to do.

Oh and this narcissist diagnosis you've come up with for me? Is that your professional opinion? Do I owe a co-pay.

And no, If your definition of being human includes being a judgmental PC cop and expressing fake outrage on the internet so as to have the approval of other judgemental PC cops on the internet. I'll opt to be what ever it is you and your ilk perceive me to be.

Now move along, you've done your duty to your peers. Remember, have a nice day.



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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #213)

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:22 PM

214. I'm not moving along any more than you are

 

until you apologize.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #212)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:08 AM

242. Sure you do, just read your last sentence.

You know, there was a very infamous man that looked at others as sub human. He convinced an entire nation that certain people were sub human too. I suppose it was because it made it easier to murder 6 million of them.


I just love it when the self righteous, superior humans here lecture me on what they perceive as my sins- all the while giving no thought to their own.

Yeah, right. Those manners you posses makes you so much more human than me.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #242)

Sun May 15, 2016, 11:50 AM

246. Aww, the wude bro is wude

 

you need a lecture. You don't call grown women "girls". Particularly at a forum for feminists. You are pretty pushed out of shape on being called on it and not apologizing. And you know, I'm just as big a jerk as you (but at least I don't call women "girls" on a political forum). We've been doing this almost a week now. I know I can keep it up for at least a year. Either apologize or slink away or keep it up. Any way you slice it, I'm not leaving it alone either.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #116)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:20 AM

198. Yes you are, and you're also not a good boy. nt

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Response to BreakfastClub (Reply #198)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:25 AM

200. No, I'm not wrong. But you're right I'm not a good boy.

I'm a bad girl.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #116)

Fri May 13, 2016, 05:46 AM

224. here

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #224)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:34 AM

226. another that goes along to get along

but you think you're a clever one.

baaa baaa baaa

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #116)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:35 AM

231. The man-hating club?

 

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #6)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:13 PM

27. Oh, please. Warren's a powerful Senator; and becoming VP,

i.e., joining the Executive Branch team, would preclude double-teaming the financial industry from both the White House and Senate. I would only have been surprised if she'd actually considered becoming VP (briefly--assuming as always that it proves all over again that I don't know most things).

Btw, we don't want this. It's not in our interest to chop the balls of the very redoubtable and dangerous Senator Warren.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #27)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:16 PM

32. I think Big Money and Clinton will double team Warren

 

hang her out to dry, as was done when she challenged the TPP.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #32)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:19 PM

39. This ^

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Response to Armstead (Reply #32)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:26 PM

52. Of course you do. You are consistent

in the message you deliver.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #52)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:45 PM

144. Yep...Because the problems don't change weekly

 

I do have a life and think about otehr things too. But since this is a political message board....

Yeah, unfortunately, I started noticing the darker side of DLC/Clintonism in the 90's. Despite hopes for an evolution away from that, it is still a prevailing force in the Democratic Party.....

I'm not alone in that dissatisfaction , as at least 40 percent of the vote for Sanders indicates.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #144)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:34 PM

166. Armstead, it was always obvious to me that,

like so many here, you mined the web for ammunition to use against Hillary, ignoring anything that didn't fit your picture. I can't say I respect more the kind of person who screams cluelessly "HILLARY LIED!" without being aware of anything but her own misdirected rage, but why should anyone respect better dressed-up versions any better?

In all those years, when did you examine the records of all the people you voted for to make SURE they didn't fall to Hillary's incredibly low standards? My guess is never, of course. Why would you? Honor and character are not exactly the real point, right?

When in all those years did you examine the records of literally hundreds of other state and federal congressmen and senators, cabinet officers, etc., to make sure you weren't letting them get away with anything you held against Hillary Clinton? My guess is never, of course. Why would you? Honor and character are not exactly the real point, right?

You obviously spend a lot of time copying text and writing out lengthy justifications, when it seems to me that you could just add "HILLARY LIED!!!!!" to your autocorrect, click it in post after post, and go clean out your drain traps or something else far more worthy.

Finally, if you don't care for my opinions of what I believe to be incredibly immoral and dishonorable behavior, don't respond to my posts to others, which you keep doing. You used up my tolerance and destroyed my hope that there might be some common point where we could meet a long time ago. I'm not fooled by the verbiage you pad your standard "BUT, HILLARY LIES!!!!" messages with.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #166)

Wed May 11, 2016, 07:45 PM

181. You know nothing about me and don't presume...

 

I'm not going to go into all the whys and wherefores, but your assessment is totally off base.

Contrary to your assumption, my opinion of Clinton is not the result of knee jerk oppo research..... I read and follow events in general, even when there is not election going on......Yes, like everyone here, i do my share of specific googling and cut and paste here because it's a primary...

.But my overall opinion of her has been formed over the years through the normal following of events....And it's not necessarily personal. It's what she represents and the brand of politics and governing that I object to.

My frustrations are the result of years of experience. Like many people, I kicked back and breathed an initial sight of relief whenever Democrats won in the swings between Dem and GOP power in the WH and Congress over the years, .....But stuff kept happening that made that relief short lived. The prevailing Democrats either caved in to the GOP, or actively promoted things that were not in alignment with (IMO) the best interest of the majority and too favorable with corporate and Wall st.wishes.

Some of those were high-profile...others were done more quietly under the radar. The Clintons and DLC party establishment created that situation, and they have perpetuated it. I believe it's time to turn the page from that.

I'm just another schmuck on a message board. But me -- and the millions of people who share my views -- are not going to just roll over and play dead, and quietly accept what we believe is wrong.

I will spare you from further interactions however. And if you find me that reprehensible, there's always the Ignore list.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #52)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:48 PM

145. Did you forget

 

DWS and predatory lending? Elizabeth Warrens consumer protection agency.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz Just Joined Republicans to Declare War on Elizabeth Warren


http://usuncut.com/news/debbie-wasserman-schultz-just-declared-war-on-elizabeth-warren/

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Response to Armstead (Reply #32)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:10 PM

114. What does that even mean? Double team her to do what?

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Response to Armstead (Reply #32)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:39 PM

139. They will surely try but I think the wind has shifted

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:49 PM

7. You wouldn't have said "good boy."

Who says that unless talking about a child?
This is the DU member formerly known as cwydro.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #7)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:50 PM

11. Or a dog.

 

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Response to bunnies (Reply #11)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:06 PM

22. I think you need to take a good long look at yourself

Bunnies

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #22)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:20 PM

41. WTF is that supposed to mean?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #22)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:19 PM

78. Why is that?

 

I'd never say "Good girl" to an adult human. Its condescending as fuck.

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Response to bunnies (Reply #11)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:33 PM

218. That's what I wrote below. "Good Girl" is what I used to say to my dog. (eom)

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Response to cwydro (Reply #7)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:55 PM

13. Yeah, I might have actually said Atta Boy!

I think at some point people who look to cry sexist behind everything that is said/written- should at some point reflect on their own attitudes and ask themselves who the real sexist is.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #13)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:38 PM

168. I'll second that

I'm getting pretty sick of the constants sexist smears around here.

We need a special language that has banned about 1/4 of our words, these days, just to make sure we don't offend someone accidentally.

this place is getting ridiculous.

I knew you meant it as praise, not to belittle her. And anyone trying to read it that way, is really trying too damned hard.

When you are a woman and you say "good girl" to another woman whom you admire, it's because you are part of the "girl's club".

If a man had said it, it would have sounded a bit strange, and in most cases it probably would have been condescending.

Some people need to get a grip. Unwad their panties. Oh noes...I said panties.

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #168)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:47 PM

170. I imagine these same people confront no one in the real world

here they hide behind their internet persona, pretending they're offended.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:50 PM

10. Nobody puts Baby in the corner!

you've been very very naughty, sexist & misogynist!

Give yourself a spanking and a time out!

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Response to Yurovsky (Reply #10)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:58 PM

14. I'm just awful, arent I?



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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #14)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:20 PM

40. Bad Boy :)

 

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Response to jack_krass (Reply #40)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:40 PM

62. ^^^ this!!! ;-). *

Nm

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:04 PM

19. You would never have said "good boy."

 

It would never have occurred to you to say that about a man. That, by definition, makes it a bit of sexist phraseology.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #19)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:53 PM

66. I might have said "Atta boy"

 

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Response to jack_krass (Reply #66)

Thu May 12, 2016, 05:46 AM

205. I think you hit on it. It's the combination.

Call me picky, but I do see a difference between "Good girl/boy" and "Atta girl/boy." Although all I'd probably do IRL is roll my eyes, to comment on another reply I just skimmed. (And make a mental note regarding the person issuing the "good girl."

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:22 PM

48. Go start an op calling Obama a "good boy."

 

Let me know how it goes.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #48)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:29 PM

55. My son is a grown man. I still say "good boy" to him and his friends

Guess what? Many of his friends are black and so was his father. When his father was alive I'm certain I said it to him too.

As I said up thread at some point people who look to cry sexism in everything that is said/written, they should reflect on themselves and ask who the real sexist is? I feel the same about people who cry racism.

As I said. I'm not going to be bullied by you or anyone else here. So go hijack somebody else thread f you have nothing further to contribute.

Now I'm done with you. Have a good evening.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #55)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:32 PM

58. I'm not bullying you in any way.

 

They are you words.

"Guess what, many of his friends are black."

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #58)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:35 PM

92. that sort of jumped out at me as well

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:08 PM

72. You're a troll provoking people.

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Response to Pisces (Reply #72)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:22 PM

80. Yeah I've been trolling here for 13 or 14 years now.

That's known as staying power- so I must be pretty good.

You have a good one now.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #80)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:06 PM

107. It's the favorite group in your profile, that's bringing the heat. nt

 

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Response to Snotcicles (Reply #107)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:10 PM

113. Perhaps that how the people in whatever group you're referring to work

 

some of us don't bother to check on that, rather we pay attention to the content.

This is a disparaging term to use for a sitting Senator and a fully grown woman. No matter what group you frequent, that shouldn't be that tough to figure out.

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Response to synergie (Reply #113)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:52 PM

172. No, it just what you want to bitch about today

OMG. She said bitch. Burn Her! Burn the witch who uses the word bitch!

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #172)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:12 PM

185. This is par for the course for misogynisits, who seem to enjoy being misogynisti.

 

Also, you seem to be a Bernie supporter, since this level of querulousness and misogyny and "berning" women is very familiar.

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Response to synergie (Reply #185)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:59 PM

194. You realize the poster was referencing Monty Python and the Holy Grail

 

But most humorless liberals tend to not understand that.

Love me, love me, love me. . .I'm a liberal!

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #172)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:40 PM

192. Jury Results: I'm Juror #6

 


On Wed May 11, 2016, 10:10 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

No, it just what you want to bitch about today
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1944998

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This poster is getting ruder and more OTT, hide this disruptive nonsense.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed May 11, 2016, 10:18 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: notadmbind got impatient with some rather sanctimonious PC police, but exhibited admirable restraint. I would have had a MUCH stronger reaction.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Word police. Sensitivity police.

I love the Monty Python reference! And the tongue in cheek attitude of this poster!

Alerter: Lighten up, Francis!
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Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #192)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:16 AM

197. Some of these people amaze me with their fake outrage over petty crap.

Yet will support with all their hearts unethical, immoral behavior.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #197)

Thu May 12, 2016, 02:04 AM

204. That's because words are more hurtful than actions

 

Someone will get butthurt with words.

Actions are forgettable. Remember the 28th amendment: No words shall be stated, written, read or even implied to offend danty liberals, aloof conservatives and anyone who might get their knickers in a twist.

Sometimes, I really believe people need to open up a big can of "grow up, sunshine." I will not censor myself to give your idiocy and ego boost.

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Response to Snotcicles (Reply #107)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:50 PM

171. Yep. I know what they're about.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #171)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:12 PM

186. And you make it very clear what it is you're about.

 

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Response to synergie (Reply #186)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:16 PM

187. Haven't denied it. Even admitted it

What's your point? Or is it you just need to to have the last word?

That's fine with me too.

Please, help yourself to the last word.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #187)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:29 PM

189. At least you own your misogyny, and your trolling.

 

No, I don't need the last word, feel free to rant on as you've been doing to prove how silly you are when faced with dumb word choices you've decided to embrace.

Please, take the last word, it seems to have been terribly important for you over the past few hours that you've dragged on these dramatic tantrums. Why deny yourself one more?

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Response to synergie (Reply #189)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:34 PM

191. hehe.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:54 PM

99. You're crazy patronizing?

 

And yeah I would think the same thing about 'good boy'. Get over yourself.

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Response to anigbrowl (Reply #99)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:00 PM

103. And you disparage the mentally ill by calling me crazy

As if suffering from mental illness is something to be ashamed of.

See how easy it is? Do we really want to nit pick over every damn word that someone can find to be offended about? Don't you think there are bigger issues to fight when it comes to women? Your comment really isn't much different from my alleged sexism, is it? Just go along with the rest of the flock. It's fun being a sheep.

I am over my self. I'm also over my insecurities. Are you?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #103)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:04 PM

104. Not in the slightest

 

Now if I was calling a mentally ill person crazy, I would be disparaging them. Althought being mentally ill myself and having been called crazy, it doesn't actually bother me that much.

A for effort though.

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Response to anigbrowl (Reply #104)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:09 PM

111. Oh, so you don't really mean that I'm crazy?

So why did you say it then? How do you know that I don't suffer from some sort of mental illness? And if you do mean that I am mentally ill, is that your professional opinion?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #111)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:15 PM

119. No, I'm saying that your patronizing attitude is absurd to the point of craziness

 

I don't care if you suffer from some sort of mental illness, you're still an obnoxious ass.

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Response to anigbrowl (Reply #119)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:18 PM

121. No, you have the perception- because of your own insecurities- that refering to someone as a

good girl is disparaging. It is not my perception.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #103)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:17 PM

120. Um actually, you did that. People with diagnosed psychiatric illness are not crazy,

 

but you chose to associate that disparaging term with that population, didn't you?

Yeah, you seem to be on a roll with saying offensive things and digging in your heels on your actions.

Why are you just making your error even worse by prolonging it and then making further disparaging remarks?

See, it's when you choose not to confront casual sexism (or bigotry against psych patients) that you fail to take a stand or action against the "issues" that need to be fought.

The posters comment didn't disparage anyone, YOU took it to the disparaging level by insisting that the word "crazy" must be about the mentally ill, that's more casual bigotry, like you casual use of a sexist disparagement.

No one care how much you enjoy being a sheep, we're just asking you to stop with the casual denigration, you seem to be getting rather aggressive and angry, and don't seem to be over your insecurities, in fact you seem to be wearing them as a badge of honor and trying attack others with them.

Perhaps you could try apologizing or just editing your poorly thought out posts and titles, you're in the wrong here, and you're making it worse by being all belligerent when your mistake was pointed out.

Just correct it and move on. You can even baa if you that's how you roll.

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Response to synergie (Reply #120)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:21 PM

123. Right, I defined the word "crazy"

cra·zy
ˈkrāzē/
informal
adjective
adjective: crazy; comparative adjective: crazier; superlative adjective: craziest

1.
mentally deranged, especially as manifested in a wild or aggressive way.
"Stella went crazy and assaulted a visitor"
synonyms: mad, insane, out of one's mind, deranged, demented, not in one's right mind, crazed, lunatic, non compos mentis, unhinged, mad as a hatter, mad as a March hare; More
informalmental, nutty, nutty as a fruitcake, off one's rocker, not right in the head, round/around the bend, raving mad, batty, bonkers, cuckoo, loopy, ditzy, loony, bananas, loco, with a screw loose, touched, gaga, not all there, out to lunch, crackers, nutso, out of one's tree, wacko, gonzo;
vulgar slangbatshit
"he was acting like a crazy person"
antonyms: sane
extremely annoyed or angry.
"the noise they made was driving me crazy"
foolish.
"it was crazy to hope that good might come out of this mess"
synonyms: stupid, foolish, idiotic, silly, absurd, ridiculous, ludicrous, preposterous, farcical, laughable, risible, nonsensical, imbecilic, harebrained, cockamamie, half-baked, impracticable, unworkable, ill-conceived, senseless; More
informalcockeyed, daft, kooky
"Andrea had a crazy idea"
antonyms: sensible
2.
extremely enthusiastic.
"I'm crazy about Cindy"
synonyms: passionate about, (very) keen on, enamored of, infatuated with, smitten with, devoted to; More
(very) enthusiastic about, fanatical about;
informalwild about, mad about, nuts about, hog-wild about, gone on
"he's crazy about her"
antonyms: indifferent, apathetic
3.
(of an angle) appearing absurdly out of place or in an unlikely position.
"the monument leaned at a crazy angle"
archaic
(of a ship or building) full of cracks or flaws; unsound or shaky.

adverbNorth American
adverb: crazy

1.
extremely.
"I've been crazy busy"

nounNorth American
noun: crazy; plural noun: crazies

1.
a mentally deranged person.


Spin it however you like.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #123)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:34 PM

134. She didn't make the link to mental illness, you did.

 

Note how none of those definitions you pasted without reading refer to mental illness. One does not have to be mentally ill to be deranged, that's a rather bigoted link you made there as you tried to accuse the person whose words you chose to misunderstand.

The disparagement is what you're doing, this was the second example.

Spin it however you wish, but you were wrong on both counts here. Why are you so defamatory about mental illness? I gave your patronizing condescension to women the benefit of the doubt, but your posts and your desperate attempts to spin show that was a mistake.

Do stop digging yourself further and further and learn your words.

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Response to synergie (Reply #134)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:59 PM

150. You're the one spinning

You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby
Right round round round
You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby
Right round round round

Read more: Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round (like A Record) Lyrics | MetroLyrics


Oh noes, lyrics using the word "baby" for a grown women. How demeaning! Must be offended. Call out the man haters to attack!

See how damn silly it all is? When you put a stop to all that, you can come back and maybe, just maybe, I'll buy your pretentious arguement.


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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #150)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:27 PM

188. Sadly, no I'm not. That's you projecting again.

 

But you just keep spinning there buddy. It will keep the reality of how Trump-like you're being at bay, and we know how darned silly you are that you are simply unable to act like an adult here.

I agree you're pretty ridiculous, but seemingly so dizzy from all your spinning your foot stomping that you're not quite getting just who is being all pretentious here.

You just keep denying reality and spouting your short-fingered vulgarianisms and perhaps we'll all stop laughing at how ridiculously OUTRAGED you've gotten and how your coherence seems to be sinking with the maturity level you're exhibiting.

When you grow up a bit, perhaps you can figure out why women aren't laughing at what you've been doing, and why you're a part of the problem. Have fun Trumping about, it's all fun and games til all that spinning makes you hurl.

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Response to synergie (Reply #188)

Wed May 11, 2016, 09:32 PM

190. Ha

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:06 PM

108. Generational thing and

 

Try "Good boy! Obama does something etc.!"




See? Weird. Time to retire "girl" when discussing any woman who isn't Carol Channung. Or Charo.

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #108)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:25 PM

164. When did we all get so damn insecure?

you know, after being set upon here by folks and their faux outrage, I went to another thread where someone began their statement by using the word "boy". It just so happened that one of the people who felt compelled to shame me - I saw also posted in that thread- didn't give a second thought to the person using the word "boy." When I inquired to why there was no confrontation as to that posters "sexism", I got crickets.

Now that, I found weird especially since the poster who used the word boy in their statement, was making the comment to a female.

Yep, just checked the post. Not a word said. Guess I'm just not popular enough to get a pass

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:06 PM

153. Politicians have been known to change their minds

frequently. constantly.
I would remind you that Mr. Sanders has NOT ruled out the VP slot.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #153)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:09 PM

155. I don't think she will change her mind.

But if she did, she would only do it for Sanders. However, I think they'll get more accomplished with her in the Senate and him in the oval office.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #3)

Thu May 12, 2016, 05:49 AM

206. !!!

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Response to Codeine (Reply #1)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:48 PM

5. Agreed. That phrasing is curious, if not condescending.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #5)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:57 PM

67. Condescending...

...and patronizing. Even if it's not intended to be sexist, it's belittling.

"Good <gender>" is something we say when someone does something we can do easily that they have trouble doing because they're young, 'special' or are a dog.

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Response to JSup (Reply #67)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:28 PM

83. That is what it means to you?

Perhaps you should reflect on your own attitudes?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #83)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:33 PM

88. Go say that to 10 adults...

...and see if they look at you funny.

I only said it to one; and got called "condescending and patronizing".

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Response to JSup (Reply #88)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:37 PM

95. I've said it many times to women

my team mates when they bowl exceptional games is just one example. It's praise. I've never been offended at being referred to as a "girl" and I think those that are- need to do some self reflecting.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #1)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:06 PM

21. I suspect a "You go, girl" would not have raised an eyebrow. Ahh, so close and yet so far...

Funny, but I think it is actually the word "good" that makes the term incendiary. I

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Response to Codeine (Reply #1)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:33 PM

60. Yeah, that one made me cringe.

Women are not "girls". Warren is an adult woman in her 60s, she worked hard to get where she is and she's earned the respect that goes along with her accomplishments. It's the 21st century, and there’s a simple way to test whether your words will be perceived -- intentional or not -- as demeaning or sexist, just apply the corresponding word to a man and see if it still seems appropriate. No one -- Republicans don't count -- would refer to Obama as a "good boy", so lets stop calling women "girls" because it's going to be taken as either patronising or sexually suggestive.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #1)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:11 PM

157. No kidding... Wow.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:45 PM

2. And we love her in that job. We need her.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:48 PM

4. Excellent. She's so very needed in the Senate.

 

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:49 PM

8. Glad to hear her say that.

I hope that this will end all the speculation of her being on some sort of list that Secretary Clinton is coming up with for VP picks. I really don't know why anyone would think that they would make a good team, it would be like yoking two horses together in opposite directions.

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Response to DookDook (Reply #8)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:51 PM

12. It would definately stiffle Elizabeth Warren's talents

just my opinion.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #12)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:11 PM

25. I first became aware of her when she wrote 'The Two Income Trap'

and a podcast that I followed was talking about economics and the host mentioned that her youtube video was worth watching.

I want her to continue on in the Senate and I hope that we can get some more of the third-wayers out of the way and she can finally start drafting banking/finance regulations with teeth.

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Response to DookDook (Reply #25)

Fri May 13, 2016, 03:50 AM

220. DookDook—The Democrats keep propping the Third Way Ds.

 

Refer to U.S. Senate nominations in Maryland, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

Perhaps more to come in Florida.

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Response to DookDook (Reply #8)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:08 PM

73. And with Warren's credibility problem...

 

one of the horses would be dragging the other down.

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Response to scscholar (Reply #73)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:21 PM

124. Warren is not the one with the credibility problem

You're thinking of the other horse, the one who is being investigated by the FBI.

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Response to scscholar (Reply #73)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:29 PM

130. Only Trump fans and non-progressives believe Warren has a "credibility problem"

 

Congratulations on outing yourself. Now who has the credibility problem?

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Response to scscholar (Reply #73)

Thu May 12, 2016, 08:44 AM

208. what credibility problem?

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Response to scscholar (Reply #73)

Fri May 13, 2016, 03:53 AM

221. sscholar—Please explain.

 

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Response to CobaltBlue (Reply #221)

Fri May 13, 2016, 11:54 AM

234. "Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color, Elizabeth Warren, in 1995."

 

From the Fordham Law Review that I read about here about a year ago. People defended her, but defending that was just sad.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:50 PM

9. Clinton would never offer. Bernie should not.

 

She went missing when it counted.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 02:59 PM

15. The dance begins again!



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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #15)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:10 PM

24. Why would she risk angering/ embarrassing a powerful, vindictive politician?

 

EW is the ideological opposite of HRC; she said in the interview that she is trying to "unrig" the system and "level the playing field." That is not where Hill's alliances lie. Plus, Clinton's deep coziness with Wall Street goes against EW's intense, repeated criticisms of Wall St.

Since Warren was the ONLY female Democratic senator to refuse to endorse HRC, she cannot afford to further anger Hill.

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Response to senz (Reply #24)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:16 PM

33. Well, she's "refused" to endorse Bernie too.

Senz, she's keeping her options open. She's not endorsing anyone now because it's too early. She knows that there will be hell to pay in the Senate if she endorses Bernie, who has no chance of getting the nomination.

If she endorses Hillary now, she loses a lot of support from the Bernie people.

She's smart, she's crafty, and she wants to see how things go.

Like any smart politician would.

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #33)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:24 PM

50. She bucked immense peer pressure by not endorsing Hillary.

 

ALL the Democratic women senators jumped on board for Hillary -- except Warren. That looks so bad, and she knows it. It took courage to stick to her principles.

She and Bernie are on the same page, preaching the same things. But Hillary amassed tremendous money and political clout and has a vicious reputation for vengeance against anyone perceived to be disloyal.

I would guess Warren's hoping Bernie gets the nomination, but in any event, she will be a good Democrat and endorse the nominee, whoever it is. Because she has to get along with the party.

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Response to senz (Reply #50)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:59 PM

69. Let's agree to disagree on this.

I'd like to see the evidence of Clinton's 'vicious reputation for vengeance' as so many of the shots about Clinton lack the facts to support them, IMHO.

I think Warren has always been her own individual so if there was pressure, and again that's purely conjecture, she wasn't bothered by it. She's too independent for that.

I don't think she would favor a Bernie nomination because she knows that Bernie has not been thoroughly vetted, as Clinton has over many years. I've researched Bernie's biography and there is enough there to guarantee he wouldn't have a chance in the general. Too many relationships with Marxists, Communists, Sandinistas, honeymooning in the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Too many sensational newspaper columns and videos of his speeches.

The media hasn't done its job because a real horserace is very profitable for them, and there's not been a peep from the Republicans.

Have you and other Bernie supporters wondered about that? The Repub Pacs have spent millions on anti Hillary ads in her primary states, but not a negative word about Bernie. Well, the Repubs have done their research and they know that Bernie would be easy pickings for them.

Warren's too smart for all that. Her own self interest is her issues that she champions and her own political future. She knows better than to endorse Sanders. She knows that if she did, she would be helping Trump. And as you can see from her tweets last weekend about Trump, she won't do anything to help the guy. And endorsing Bernie would do just that.

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #69)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:48 PM

98. Okay, but I do get to answer your LONG comment...

 

You can read about Hillary's well-known vindictiveness at the following links:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/195188-hillarys-hit-list

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/195192-kerry-kennedy-top-clintons-traitor-list

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/195193-mccaskill-didnt-want-to-be-in-elevator-with-clinton

Elizabeth knows Bernie; they've been ideologically very close for a long time and she has worked with him in the Senate. She knows and respects Bernie.

As an open, honest public official with nothing to hide who has won elections since the 1980s, Bernie is probably better vetted than Hillary, due to Hillary's famous secrecy.

Bernie is not a Marxist and not a Communist. As a believer in the democratic rights of ALL people, of course Bernie championed the people's struggles in Nicaragua rather then Reagan's favorites, the Contras.

Bernie did not "honeymoon" in the Soviet Union. That is a dirty rightwing lie. Burlington Vermont's sister city is a city in Russia, and Bernie, as mayor of Burlington, visited it. That's what sister cities do.

Bernie is a remarkably "clean" candidate and his record of achievement as mayor, congressman and senator is impressive.

I seriously object to your making up stories about Elizabeth Warren. She is way too smart to fall for the Hill campaign canard that support for Bernie is support for Trump, and I don't think she would appreciate your putting those words in her mouth. Both Bernie and Elizabeth are against Trump. Anti-Trump is a big part of Bernie rallies, and his cheering supporters always join Bernie in booing Trump.

Elizabeth Warren is wise to avoid making a candidate endorsement until after we have a nominee. She will endorse the Democratic nominee. She probably could not survive Hillary's vindictive wrath if she endorsed Bernie, and it is doubtful she would endorse the Wall Street candidate, given her antipathy for Wall Street.

I find your subject line of "Let's agree to disagree," followed by a lengthy pro-Hillary campaign screed replete with egregious falsehoods about Bernie, somewhat sneaky and less than honest, kstewart33. Yes, you certainly are a Hill supporter.

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Response to senz (Reply #98)

Thu May 12, 2016, 08:32 AM

207. Whoa there.

I disagree with most of your points in your LONG post.

So let's let it lie, and move on.

But I do respect your commitment to your candidate.

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Response to senz (Reply #24)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:20 PM

42. "Risk angering/embarrassing a powerful, vindictive politician?"

She already crossed that bridge when she didn't endorse Bernie for Massachusetts primary (which Hillary won)!

Then those "tweets" started - and now she gets them from Trump?

Oh - she might just be ready to jump in it!

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #42)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:31 PM

57. You're not aware of Hillary's hit list?

 

It's well known all over D.C. Dead serious, very frightening to Democratic politicians.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/195188-hillarys-hit-list

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #15)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:40 PM

63. Is that the interview the OP is talking about? EW clearly did not rule anything out.

She refused to give a straight yes or no despite the obvious intent to elicit one.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #63)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:46 PM

65. That's it!

I think she is ready!

2016 could definitely be "The Year of the Woman!"

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:01 PM

16. Vice President is a powerless and ineffectual office.

 

Why the hell would EW want to throw away her talents on that?

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Response to senz (Reply #16)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:03 PM

17. Yes, I know she also

said she is doing the job her constituents of Mass elected her to do. Work to un-rig the system. The video is posted down link with the title "Warren refuses to rule out" but I think rule it out- is exactly what she did.

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Response to senz (Reply #16)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:10 PM

156. Why would she want to be second fiddle

When she could easily be first. I don't blame her. I wouldn't want the job. I would hate to give up the ability to hop in the car and go where ever I please.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:03 PM

18. Liz 2020

 

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #18)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:22 PM

47. That's a nice possibility. If Hillary doesn't taint the whole pool by

 

making the subconscious minds of the voters turn against a woman, any woman, unfairly or not...But yeah, I'd love to see her become President one day, because I believe she absolutely has the fire in the belly to always do the right things and for the right reasons.

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #47)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:35 PM

93. I am sure you will be expressing the same concern about President Hillary Clinton

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in late 2020 or early 2021 as we look ahead to the 2024 election. An election in which I look forward to supporting Senator Warren.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #93)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:34 PM

136. just an fyi- Elizabeth Warren looks great for her age which is currently 66

In 2024, she will be Sanders age right now, 74.

So, any criticism about Sanders' age now would be hurled at her in 2024.

Now, I don't think 74 is too old, but look how they are marginalizing Sanders for all manner of reasons, including that he is too old.

They would do that to Warren as well.

I am truly heartbroken that Warren chose not to run this cycle.

We shall see.

I still am behind Sanders 1000%.

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Response to Karma13612 (Reply #136)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:42 PM

142. Sanders' age has nothing at all to do with why I am not supporting him.

And I would have no problem supporting Elizabeth Warren if she ran at the age of 75, which is how old she will turn in June 2024.

Warren may well decide to run in 2020 or 2024, hopefully 2024 since we need to win this election.

I will fervently support Sanders if he is the nominee and I hope you will do the same for Clinton if she is nominated.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #18)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:33 PM

89. I was thinking that Warren 2024 would be better for all of us.

If a disaster happens, and Trump gets into the White House, then at that point I would be for Warren 2020.

But I think we should all work hard to make sure that doesn't happen, regardless of who the nominee is.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:04 PM

20. "Good girl" ? My goodness, how fucking patronizing


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Response to Tarc (Reply #20)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:15 PM

31. Depends on who's saying it and how they mean it.

 

That phrase is a slang expression of support. It depends on how it's used. If a Hill fan said it to me, I'd be royally offended because they are so insulting and condescending. But if a friend said it, I'd take it as friendly approval.

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Response to senz (Reply #31)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:21 PM

79. She's a sitting senator, it's insulting and demeaning.

 

So if a Hillary supporters was saying it in the way this poster did you'd be snarling, so you admit that you know this, or do you imagine that the poster is a personal friend of the Senator?

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Response to synergie (Reply #79)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:55 PM

100. I think it's informal approval & your pose is stuffy and inflated.

 

You're just looking for an excuse to take umbrage.

Hey, wanna get rich? Bottle up umbrage and sell it. It would fly off the shelves like hotcakes.

Oh, and while we're at it, please explain that last phrase to me as I don't really understand it.

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Response to senz (Reply #100)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:05 PM

106. Nope. You're incorrect, your own post confirms you understand that this is not a

 

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situation in which it's what you claim.

Your own pose is rather silly and hypocritical.

I don't have the vast stores of umbrage you seem to be stocked up with, but you go right ahead with your scheme, ignoring the lack of a market for ridiculous umbrage.

You don't understand simple English? Perhaps fewer attempts at snark (not a skill you possess) and more reading comprehension.

The OP is not a personal friend of the senator, there was nothing "informal" here, just gendered dismissal that she claims she did not mean, but is far too stubborn to bother correcting, even when her error was explained to her numerous times.

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Response to synergie (Reply #106)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:14 PM

117. Wait a minute.

 

I wasn't being snarky, I was having fun with language. Language is fun.

So ... does the phrase, "fly off the shelves like hot cakes" makes sense to you? I mean, have you ever seen hot cakes fly off shelves?

I'm tired from posting. I think you'll just have to get along without me for the time being.

Hasta luego!

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Response to senz (Reply #117)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:21 PM

125. Ah, so you literally believe that you have a market for you bottled umbrage?

 

Interesting.

I am not the one who had issues with understanding your rather poor attempts at snark.

Language is fun, even better if you know words and can understand sentences.

Abiento.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:13 PM

28. Come on now. That's not a "no."

She didn't say yes or no. Just that she loves her job.

Translation: Let's wait and see.

She's keeping her options open.

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #28)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:16 PM

34. She's keeping herself covered, as she should. Prudent thing to do.

 

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Response to senz (Reply #34)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:17 PM

36. Yep. nt

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:17 PM

35. FFS... Good Girl?! Totally tone deaf.



Proud feminist and Bernie supporter, btw.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #35)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:20 PM

44. I'm not going to be bullied by the so called "feminists" here

for saying someone is a good girl. Why? Because I don't believe in censorship and I believe that real feminists have bigger battles to fight such as equal rights and equal pay.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #44)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:57 PM

68. Good Girl! n/t

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #68)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:01 PM

70. ....

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #44)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:37 PM

138. Those mean old feminists!

 

How dare they contend that using gender-specific diminutives for grown women is sexist! Man-haters!

You're somethin' else.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #138)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:51 PM

146. You are too.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #44)

Fri May 13, 2016, 03:01 PM

235. Bullied?

SMDH...






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Response to chervilant (Reply #235)

Fri May 13, 2016, 03:04 PM

237. Bullied, shamed, pressure. What ever you want to call it.

I'm not going to conform to all the posers out there who pretend that they're offended by the word girl.

I'm a grown damn woman and I know damn well what sexist is and it isn't giving another woman praise and using the word girl in the comment.

You want to be offended by something, be offended by domestic abuse. Be offended by human trafficking. Be offended by babies daddies who run out on the women they use as sperm receptacles and force them to raise their offspring in poverty.

And when I hear and see women even begin to express outrage over sexism of that sort, maybe, just maybe we can work on being outraged by silly damn words.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #35)

Fri May 13, 2016, 03:04 PM

236. SMDH...

And, my IL just keeps on growing.

#NotMeUs

#DropOutHillary

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:18 PM

37. Thanks for the heads-up, notadmblnd!

FWIW: Going by the job she's done as a US Senator, Ms. Warren would make an excellent President.

PS: Ignore those who don't know you. I'd call them by name, but it would, you know.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #37)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:22 PM

49. Thanks for your words

I've appreciated your voice here for a very long time. It means a lot to me.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:18 PM

38. "Good Girl!" -- WTF?

 

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #38)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:21 PM

46. No kidding. Is Warren a 4-year-old?

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #38)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:17 PM

74. You must be one of those so called "feminists"!

Welcome to the SCFC!

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:20 PM

43. Silly idea anyway

Warren brings nothing Clinton needs. Same demographic, region, safe blue EVs already, isn't going to pull in any single issue kill the banksters types who would never vote HRC even with Eugene Debs as veep. She's a perfectly admirable Senator and consumer advocate who can do more good staying both than being the token funeral attendee and insurance policy biding their time for 8 years. What's needed is a younger, non-NE, credible attack dog who won't leave much of a hole and can bring in some stragglers. Castro is the common musing for a reason, although there are plenty other choices.

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Response to whatthehey (Reply #43)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:43 AM

202. Well if Clinton actually wins the nom, there is one thing Clinton might need from Senator Warren

Sander's supporters.

I believe HRC would only consider it- if it would draw support from Sanders supporters who currently say that they won't vote for Clinton.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #202)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:30 AM

209. That would surely be a trivial number though

If it's fit of pique PUMA outbursts like Clinton's supporters toyed with in 2008, they'll see sense and manage to admit that there really is a difference between Clinton and Trump by November and vote for her anyway.

If it's a genuine, albeit asinine, desire to cut off noses as well as cheeks, lips and teeth to spite the Trumpian face, in other words a refusal to support Clinton regardless of the alternative and the damage that entails, then a token role for Warren which gives her less actual power than she already has, absent Clinton's early demise, would fool only people who are involved enough in politics to have developed a loathing for Clinton from the left, but haven't in all that time twigged that the VP is a sinecure insurance policy and PR figure with effective powers less than a junior undersecretary unless you haqppen to have a 50-50 Senate with impeccable party discipline.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:21 PM

45. Sad panda :(

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:25 PM

51. Many of us have been saying this.

 

We don't want her giving up any clout. And she isn't a "good girl", she is a highly intelligent woman.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:26 PM

53. Lve Liz, Love Bernie! The rest ehh

 

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:26 PM

54. Excellent, I love her IN that job!!! Keep it up!!!

 

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:30 PM

56. It wasn't a viable option anyway.

Notice who Obama chose as VP in 2008. He was a young AA nominee with not a lot of years of elected experience. He chose a white older man who had been in elected office for many years.

Hillary will be the first woman nominee, she's not going to choose another woman. She'll choose a man who is younger than herself and from a diverse state.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #56)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:42 PM

97. I have given quite a bit of thought as to who Hillary might choose to be her running-mate.

In 2008 I correctly predicted that John McCain would pick Sarah Palin. That was quite a prediction but all my others have been wrong. I guess it is inevitable that most predictions will be wrong since there are so many possibilities and can only be one selection.

I could see Hillary making history by picking a Latino running mate. I like Representative Xavier Becerra of California. He is the chair of the House Democratic Caucus and the fourth ranking House Democrat. He has been in Congress for 24 years.

I think Elizabeth Warren is terrific and would happily support her for president at some point down the line. But right now we have to win this election.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #97)

Wed May 11, 2016, 07:44 PM

180. I don't know Xavier Becerra, I'll look him up.

I wouldn't be surprised if she picked a Hispanic man.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #180)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:32 PM

217. Becerra just gave an interview to Lawrence O'Donnell.

I don't know if you saw it, but if you have DVR then maybe you can tape the replay at 1 AM. It aired at about 10:22 or so.

BTW, I put up a post on the Hillary Clinton Forum that I think you will like. It is a link to an article about all the unfair attacks against Hillary.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107130648

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Response to StevieM (Reply #217)

Fri May 13, 2016, 06:19 PM

238. Thanks for the heads up.

I posted on your link.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #238)

Fri May 13, 2016, 06:49 PM

239. Here is the link to his interview on youtube.



They start by showing him being asked about the VP slot. Then they show the whole interview he gave. It is all all at the beginning of the clip.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #239)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:24 PM

241. Thank you.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:32 PM

59. She didn't rule anything out ...

... your headline is patently false.

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Response to salinsky (Reply #59)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:18 PM

76. Bingo!

 

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:34 PM

61. "Good girl"?

SMH

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #61)

Wed May 11, 2016, 03:42 PM

64. Me too. SMH at the pretentiousness of some people here.

So let's make this short and sweet.

I'm an awful person and you're better than me. M'kAY?

Was that good for your ego? Good. Have a great evening.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #64)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:23 PM

81. Perhaps, now that you realize how this sounds, you just edit the title?

 

There is no need to make this so personal or drag it out. It's an error, not something you meant to be demeaning, so just make use of the edit function and the drama ends.

Not such a big thing to do right?

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Response to synergie (Reply #81)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:27 PM

82. I'm surprised he hasn't done so.

Very telling.
This is the DU member formerly known as cwydro.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #82)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:33 PM

90. Yes very telling. I'm just another sexist man.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #90)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:19 PM

122. Your belligerance and the dramatics you're engaging in do speak volumes.

 

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Response to synergie (Reply #122)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:24 PM

126. The dramatics is comming from people like you

who are making a big deal in regards to my OP.

If you don't like it. Put it on ignore or trash the thread.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #126)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:28 PM

128. No, the tantrums are all yours.

 

Your OP was disparaging, I pointed it out, as have others your response was to hop up and down making it worse for yourself.

I don't like it, and it's my right to state my opinion, silencing those who point out things you don't like is not how we do things on this side of the aisle. Perhaps you'd like to mosey on down somewhere where this type of behavior and language are acceptable?

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Response to synergie (Reply #81)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:29 PM

85. No, you people are not going to shame or bully me into changing anything.

If it bothers you so damn much, alert and put me on ignore.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #85)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:29 PM

129. Because those are things you prefer to do to women by calling them girls?

 

If you're bothered so much by people calling out your denigrating comment, either edit it or stop digging yourself in further, these dramatic tantrums are not doing you any good.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #85)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:34 PM

135. Bully you. Make the woman a child in the finest of Patriarchal way, and tell us we are bullying you.

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #135)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:43 PM

143. Big ol' meanies.

 

Some people's children. . .

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Response to Codeine (Reply #143)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:53 PM

147. You are funny. Nt

 

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #85)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:41 PM

141. Normally, when a person is informed that a turn of phrase they THINK is innocent

 

is actually offensive to many of the target audience, they could take that opportunity to learn from the situation and become a more sensitive person.

OR. . . they could double-down and start ranting about "so-called feminists."

Which path is chosen can be very enlightening.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #141)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:53 PM

148. Good that you are such a wise one.

Else just think where you would be.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #64)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:18 PM

160. Ignorance is bliss

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:06 PM

71. She is first rate....

Why should she play second Fidel to anyone!?

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:17 PM

75. Thank you, notadmblnd!

 

Don't let the naysayers get you down.

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Response to farleftlib (Reply #75)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:19 PM

77. Thanks.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:28 PM

84. WOW, here is a good lady who has worked hard, advocated for consumer issues for us and then

this comes out. There was a big push for her to run as president and post about her being Sanders vp and also to have her has Hillary's VP, now the cheering section comes out for her not accepting a VP offer. Damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. She has been a good senator, and if she had decided to run as president she would have been a good candidate. We don't need to disparage good Democrats.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #84)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:31 PM

86. where is it written that the word "girl" is a disparaging term?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #86)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:57 PM

101. It was a combination of words, girl is not disparaging but combine with other words is disparaging.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #101)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:05 PM

105. In your mind.

In my mind it is an accolade. See the difference? However, I'm over my insecurities in regards to my femininity.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #105)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:06 PM

109. Why disparage others?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #86)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:08 PM

110. You're calling an grown, accomplished woman, a sitting senator, a "girl" and you're confused

 

about why that's disparaging?

If you need it explained to you, here's a link that attempts to do so.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/08/stop-calling-women-girls-its-either-patronising-or-sexually-suggestive

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Response to synergie (Reply #110)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:11 PM

115. Well that's the gospel then, right?

How about- "Stop being so damn insecure and looking for sexism behind every damn word that is spoken/written."

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #115)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:24 PM

127. I have no idea what your religious texts say about not taking personal responsibility

 

for saying stupid and offensive things, you'll have to ponder that yourself.

How about when you make a dumb mistake, instead of further embarrassing yourself, just correct it. When you're given the benefit of the doubt, it's pretty insecure to act the way you're acting.

You could understand what a dumb mistake you made, but apparently you'd rather just indulge in playing the victim and being belligerent about it. Your gospel sounds a heck of a lot like that a certain short fingered vulgarian.

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Response to synergie (Reply #127)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:30 PM

131. By the title alone, I felt very contrite, sitting with hands on lap and getting a pat on the head.

 

I dunno.... lol.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #131)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:35 PM

137. No milkbone or a lollipop? :-p

 

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Response to synergie (Reply #137)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:40 PM

140. Lol, as I lower my eyes, raise my hand over smile, do a quiet, lady like laugh..... Ah ha. Hey....

 

Sigh, ... Our world.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #86)

Wed May 11, 2016, 07:31 PM

178. When applied to an adult woman, it certainly is. nt

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Response to SusanCalvin (Reply #178)

Wed May 11, 2016, 07:36 PM

179. according to what authority?

Is it written in the official Feminist's handbook? Can you cite me a page?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #179)

Wed May 11, 2016, 08:33 PM

182. According to this adult woman with clear memories of the 50s and 60s. Boy. nt

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Response to SusanCalvin (Reply #182)

Wed May 11, 2016, 08:43 PM

183. Well this adult woman with clear memories of the 50's and 60's disagrees

soooo, I guess my authority cancels your authority and vise versa

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #183)

Wed May 11, 2016, 08:51 PM

184. Works for me. nt

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:32 PM

87. She's too damned important in teh Senate

to get buried in a dead end PR job - and - be forced to knuckle under to Clintons Corporate crap

Good on you Senator!

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:33 PM

91. girl?

no words



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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:36 PM

94. Broke my heart

All my dreams of a Sanders Warren ticket is gone

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Response to hrsummers (Reply #94)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:39 PM

96. We need more people like her- Is "her" an ok word to use? Anyone offended?

in the Senate.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #96)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:32 PM

132. oh, I dunno, gonna just throw this out there. Woman? Would woman work. Good woman, !!! You did

 

just what I wanted. Rejected Clinton and in my opinion, insulted her all over the place.

Maybe?

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 04:58 PM

102. good girl? Did you pat her on the head as you said it?

 

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #102)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:36 PM

167. I thought the same thing. This is what I used to say to my dog.

I can't believe that anybody thought it was reasonable to use when referencing a United States Senator, or any woman for that matter.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 05:55 PM

149. "Good Girl" WTF?!?! Would you then say Sherrod is a "Bad Boy" if he does the same???

This is sexism, for all you Clinton supporters throwing around the word meaninglessly.

Thought you should know.

This is EXTREMELY insulting, as a woman.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #149)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:04 PM

151. It's just today's outrage du jour

Glad I could get all you folks (any problem with that word?) blood running.

Self righteous indignation- makes you feel so alive, doesn't it?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #151)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:06 PM

152. This will get me a hide. Don't care.

Fuck off, you low life loser.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #152)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:07 PM

154. I won't alert. I'm a big girl, I can take it.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #154)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:13 PM

158. I don't believe for a second that you are female. Of any age.

No woman would say that about Elizabeth Warren. You couldn't be more patronizing.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #158)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:22 PM

161. Matters not to me what you think.

You're going to believe what you like no matter.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #158)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:32 AM

229. HE is not a female. HE said this just upthread:

 

notadmblnd (23,055 posts)
116. I'm not wrong.

And I'm not going to change it. I am sick and tired of the man hating club here and I'm not about to kow tow the their damn petty demands.

If what I wrote is so damn horrible and offensive- alert on it. The other option you and every other person who is soooo damn offended by it- can just put my sexist ass on ignore.


Kind of a strange thing for a woman to say, no?

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:16 PM

159. No she did not rule it out

She left the door open, I heard it myself. Yes, she did say she loved her job, but that does no mean she ruled out the VP slot. Where do people come up with this kind of crap?

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #159)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:33 PM

165. She is using the same sort of language she used when she was being encouraged

to run for President yet she never explicitly ruled it out. I'm confident that she will not accept an offer to become anyone's running mate.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:24 PM

163. "Good Girl"? There it is. nt

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 06:42 PM

169. Elizabeth Warren is not a "girl."

She is a United States Senator. Feh!

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 10:12 PM

195. She did not I heard the entire thing

She left it open. I am convinced she will be the VP.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Wed May 11, 2016, 10:33 PM

196. Everyone makes mistakes, but it's important to not keep digging.

At some point, you have to acknowledge the mistake, apologize, and move on. Or you'll be no better than Mr. "Never Regret Anything" Trump.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #196)

Fri May 13, 2016, 04:48 AM

223. Thank you for this.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:28 AM

201. "Good Girl"?

WTF bro?

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #201)

Thu May 12, 2016, 01:46 AM

203. Matters not to me what you call me.

And there is nothing you can say to me that hasn't already been said. So you might as well not get your blood pressure up over it.

Thanks for the thread kick.

Have a good morning.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 04:38 PM

215. "Good girl" is what I say to my dog.

I wouldn't use it on a grown woman whom I respect like Senator Warren.
Probably would say "Nice job, Senator! Elizabeth Warren rules out any VP offers."

The fact that this has been pointed out to you and you refusing to learn from it is quite funny.
So thanks for the

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Response to zappaman (Reply #215)

Thu May 12, 2016, 06:09 PM

216. You're welcome. Thanks for your .2 cents

Now go find something serious to be outraged about.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #216)

Fri May 13, 2016, 04:37 AM

222. Actually, this is something serious. I'm sorry that you fail to understand that.

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Response to grossproffit (Reply #222)

Fri May 13, 2016, 06:25 AM

225. gender stereotypes?

No not serious one bit. The language we use doesn't matter at all no matter how degrading right, sweety?

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Response to grossproffit (Reply #222)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:26 AM

245. Yeah, yeah, real serious

I guess one could call it a mortal sin? I'm certain that I'll stand before my maker one day and receive a huge thumbs down for it.

Meanwhile, all the HRC supporters are just fine with the fact that her husband pals around and cavorts with convicted pedophiles who avail themselves of the services of underage sex slaves.

No feminist outrage in that thread. No sir. That seems to be A-Okay with them.

Get out of here with your freaking hypocrisy. Shoo!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #215)

Thu May 12, 2016, 09:36 PM

219. I just wrote the same thing above.

I used to say "good girl" to my dog. It sounds so ridiculous to hear it said to a United States senator.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:47 AM

227. She didn't rule anything out and you took that quote out of context.

Now will you take back your sexist comment?

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Response to book_worm (Reply #227)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:58 AM

228. I'm not taking anything back

It was not a sexist comment and I think all you people complaining that it is sexist are the real sexists. Don't all you self proclaimed feminists and fighters of women's rights have bigger fish to fry? Aren't there more damn important things to be outraged about?

I'm damn sick and tired of all these so called life long victims of men nit picking about the little shit. If you want to truly be offended about sexism. Be offended about something important like human trafficking.

There's something I almost never see you so called feminists stand up for. NO! that would too hard to fight against that. Much easier to nit pick and go along with the posers on an internet discussion board like a sheep.

Until you put a stop to the bigger outrages against women, take yourself down the damn road because I'm tired of listening to all your fake outrage over stupid words.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #228)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:13 AM

244. thanks for taking their hypocrisy like an American

 

such mud crawling and absolute real issue avoidance.
there will be nothing left worth fighting for if real Americans
dont stand up for what it means to be an American.

Brock's Billionaire Brigade is not composed of real Americans,
straight up fakery.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:33 AM

230. "Good girl." ?

 

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:37 AM

232. Lol, is she a dog? Stupid phrase. Nt

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #232)

Fri May 13, 2016, 08:38 AM

233. baa baa baaa

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Response to Logical (Reply #232)

Sun May 15, 2016, 10:11 AM

243. better than calling someone stupid. Nt

 

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 07:44 PM

240. She did not rule it out

Do you guys listen or just post the wrong stuff on purpose?

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 12:51 PM

247. What were the Jury Results?

 

I'm sure someone tried to alert this.

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Response to Reter (Reply #247)

Sun May 15, 2016, 12:57 PM

248. It's still here

but I don't see where I have any mail on it.

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Response to notadmblnd (Original post)

Sun May 15, 2016, 02:21 PM

249. She did not

And it might be worth the Senate loss to pick her.

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