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laruemtt

(3,992 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:01 PM May 2016

Back to those pesky transcripts again...

So you're applying for a job and the employer wants to know something about you that will have a direct effect on how you would perform the job you're being interviewed for. You reassure him or her that there's no there there and that you will not be revealing certain information to him or her. So, do you think you'll get the job? The Presidency is a job and we are the employers. We have a right to know things about our prospective employee that will have a direct bearing on her performance of said job.

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Back to those pesky transcripts again... (Original Post) laruemtt May 2016 OP
I am confused, you are a Bernie voter? I am, nothing in those transcripts will change that. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #1
All voters (employers) have a right to know laruemtt May 2016 #3
No you do the have any right to see the transcripts. Ohioblue22 May 2016 #2
So we should vote for someone without knowing something critically important about them? No way. laruemtt May 2016 #4
It's only critical to those who are losing. So go ahead and vote for the end of roe v wade, net Ohioblue22 May 2016 #6
oh God. the death of critical thinking skills is so prevalent. laruemtt May 2016 #10
Is that what happened to Bernie's supporters? Ohioblue22 May 2016 #12
Sounds like you've never personally hired anyone to work for your company. laruemtt May 2016 #14
You have no right to see her transcripts. You'll need to look elsewhere for your ammo Ohioblue22 May 2016 #17
You're absolutely correct. I have no right whatsoever to see any transcripts. Buns_of_Fire May 2016 #24
Yes you do and you can shoot yourself in the foot or cut off your nose to spite your face or Ohioblue22 May 2016 #36
150 million voters, 150 million different criteria. Buns_of_Fire May 2016 #40
This Trump crap gets old. 840high May 2016 #47
Yes, I have and I am not allowed to pry into their private life SharonClark May 2016 #33
A part of their life that will affect your company and other employees laruemtt May 2016 #48
You can't talk anigbrowl May 2016 #15
More unoriginal posting from the same crowd. arcane1 May 2016 #26
Hmm, which side are you talking about? laruemtt May 2016 #30
The Brock side n/t arcane1 May 2016 #43
You can try to trivialize it with any label you like but that is what trump will do . Do you enjoy Ohioblue22 May 2016 #38
Hillary Will Let Net Neutrality Slide... She Is Hired By The Moguls To Basically DO NOTHING! CorporatistNation May 2016 #49
Try that one on your employer... onecaliberal May 2016 #21
Their employer is who came up with that line in the first place n/t arcane1 May 2016 #27
She does not have a right to my vote Duckhunter935 May 2016 #23
True you can go vote, or by no voting , for the end of roe v wade, net neutrality, the aca , Ohioblue22 May 2016 #35
I know my state Duckhunter935 May 2016 #37
Another one with the scare tactics. You know what trump wants to do Ohioblue22 May 2016 #39
Fuck Trump Duckhunter935 May 2016 #42
K&R jwirr May 2016 #5
Interesting Theory from CoffeCat Ferd Berfel May 2016 #7
If there weren't any transcripts and they just gave her those huge chunks of change for -- laruemtt May 2016 #9
paying it forward? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #46
Hmmmm farleftlib May 2016 #11
maybe she's just keeping her head down and Ferd Berfel May 2016 #45
The only use of those transcripts is for GE smears. gordianot May 2016 #8
No. It's to determine who's side she's really on: Wall Street or the People she claims Fawke Em May 2016 #13
By now that hot ticket item has been paid for. gordianot May 2016 #18
I think it's obvious whose side she's on Art_from_Ark May 2016 #20
If you think that, then you just don't understand politics Corporate666 May 2016 #22
K&R SharonClark May 2016 #34
Or politicians Ohioblue22 May 2016 #41
No one gives a damn about transcripts. Your candidate lost. Move along already. Trust Buster May 2016 #16
This hanging on to the convention soundslike the cons excuse for voting 50 times for the overturning Ohioblue22 May 2016 #19
"The Presidency is a job and we are the employers" Tarc May 2016 #25
Not my problem, but it will be a problem for all of us if and when she gets in laruemtt May 2016 #29
Makes no difference at this point. The primary is over. Bernie lost. beaglelover May 2016 #28
Yes, and Bernie will be the next president ucrdem May 2016 #32
It's Trump's dead horse now and he should have lots of fun beating it. ucrdem May 2016 #31
They keep returning to this issue... scscholar May 2016 #44

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
1. I am confused, you are a Bernie voter? I am, nothing in those transcripts will change that.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

What benefit is there, other than in picking a nominee, in doing this?

If you mean you want Hillary people to hear her speech in hopes she will say something so they will change to Bernie, fine.

That is reasonable.

Otherwise, once the nominee is chosen...

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
6. It's only critical to those who are losing. So go ahead and vote for the end of roe v wade, net
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

Neutrality, unions , the epa, on person one vote , etc....

Buns_of_Fire

(17,172 posts)
24. You're absolutely correct. I have no right whatsoever to see any transcripts.
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:02 PM
May 2016

But as the potential employer, I have EVERY right to consider the refusal to produce them as part of my evaluation process.

That said, I doubt there's any smoking gun in there. And I'm not really interested in a recital of her favorite recipe for spinach souffle, which is probably what they amount to.

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
36. Yes you do and you can shoot yourself in the foot or cut off your nose to spite your face or
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

Vote for trump by voting for him or by not voting

Buns_of_Fire

(17,172 posts)
40. 150 million voters, 150 million different criteria.
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:37 PM
May 2016

To me, it's not necessarily a deal breaker. Just something to be considered. That's why we get the big bucks.

laruemtt

(3,992 posts)
48. A part of their life that will affect your company and other employees
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:55 PM
May 2016

is not just their private life. Nice try.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
15. You can't talk
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:28 PM
May 2016

You haven't shown why those speech transcripts are so darned important. For myself I don't find it even slightly remarkable that a Wall Street Bank would pay a world-famous political figure some fat money to do a few speeches. Speechifying is a well-established way for famous people to get paid even more money, because even bland tropes about leadership, persistence and success sound more interesting when offered up by a famous person with unusual personal anecdotes to share.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. More unoriginal posting from the same crowd.
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:09 PM
May 2016

Fear-mongering and extortion are lame excuses. Try separating yourself from your peers with something original for a change. You folks are like carbon copies of each other.

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
38. You can try to trivialize it with any label you like but that is what trump will do . Do you enjoy
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:32 PM
May 2016

5-4 scotus rulings in the cons favor?. Like saying "I'm sticking my head in the lion's cage don't try to stop me with your unoriginal fear mongering.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
49. Hillary Will Let Net Neutrality Slide... She Is Hired By The Moguls To Basically DO NOTHING!
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:27 PM
May 2016

In return for $$$$

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
35. True you can go vote, or by no voting , for the end of roe v wade, net neutrality, the aca ,
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:21 PM
May 2016

Unions, but at least you'll win right to work

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
37. I know my state
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:27 PM
May 2016

A non-vote at the top will not make a difference. I will vote down ticket. Nice scare tactics though, some of us are smarter than falling for that, lol.

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
39. Another one with the scare tactics. You know what trump wants to do
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

Here's another one saying " I'm sticking my head in the lion's cage don't even try to stop me with your scare tactics"

laruemtt

(3,992 posts)
9. If there weren't any transcripts and they just gave her those huge chunks of change for --
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

hmm, a wild guess here - access, that's pretty darned troubling.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
11. Hmmmm
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:14 PM
May 2016

Maybe, but if that were the case I'd think she'd just make up a bunch of "Cut it out, Wall St." quotes
to prove that she really isn't beholden to the banksters for all that payola they've thrown at her.

IMO she spoke there and if she doesn't release them that looks so bad. Or they could be leaked if we're lucky.

gordianot

(15,236 posts)
8. The only use of those transcripts is for GE smears.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:10 PM
May 2016

Be certain Republicans will use them for revenge for the recording exposure of Rmoney's making his asinine 47% slam.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
13. No. It's to determine who's side she's really on: Wall Street or the People she claims
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

she wants to represent.

gordianot

(15,236 posts)
18. By now that hot ticket item has been paid for.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:31 PM
May 2016

The beauty is all that is needed to do damage is release them stand back and watch.

Remember Christie's wife worked Goldman Sachs.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
22. If you think that, then you just don't understand politics
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:00 PM
May 2016

Anyone who thinks Hillary stands up and gives a heartfelt speech where she describes her inner feelings and private thoughts on capitalism or wall street or the banking industry is, quite frankly, either an idiot or suffering extreme confirmation bias.

Hillary has been in the game a long time. She knew long before she ever gave any speech that some of the people in that room don't like her and would like to see her fail. She isn't going to say anything controversial either about herself or about the company she's speaking too.

And anyone who thinks the speech has any bearing on the election is just too biased to see reality. Let's face it - there's nobody out there that agrees with her platform and thinks she is the best candidate, but just wants to see those speeches and if not, won't vote for her. The people whining about the speeches are those that don't want her to win and they were intellectually honest, they would agree that they want to comb through the speeches looking for something to attack Clinton with. And when no admissions of felonies were found, they would take words out of context and post meme pics all over the internet with those words.

There is absolutely NOTHING in it for Clinton. She stands to gain nothing at all - so why would she ever release the transcripts? It's not gonna happen.


Now what about Bernie's tax returns? Referring to Clinton's refusal to release transcripts isn't an answer as to why Bernie has refused to release his tax returns. Conflating the two is stupid. Furthermore, it's standard for Presidential candidates to release tax returns, yet he refuses to do so. Clearly there is something in those returns he doesn't want people to see. Given that tax returns are factual accounts of one's finances and they are legally binding and it's criminal to falsify them, and given that a speech transcript has no such restrictions or veracity about it - anyone who isn't being dishonest must agree that Sanders' tax returns are more relevant than Clinton's speeches. If he were to fulfill his promise and release his returns, it would give him a basis to criticize Clinton for transcripts. But the skeleton in his own closet is much more serious and damning than the one he says may be in hers.

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
19. This hanging on to the convention soundslike the cons excuse for voting 50 times for the overturning
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:34 PM
May 2016

Of the aca . The Reason for doing it , they said, was to make sure all the cons had a chance to vote for it (the repeal of the aca)

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
25. "The Presidency is a job and we are the employers"
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:05 PM
May 2016

The problem for you is, the majority of "the employers" do not see this as an important issue.

laruemtt

(3,992 posts)
29. Not my problem, but it will be a problem for all of us if and when she gets in
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:10 PM
May 2016

and starts showing her loyalties.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
31. It's Trump's dead horse now and he should have lots of fun beating it.
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

After Nov. 8 he and the Chief should get their own show on Fox.

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