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Oh My pmorlan1 May 2016 #1
You can go change your pants, now. dchill May 2016 #2
More like change his drawers. This shit's so deep it's gotta be leaving skidmarks. nt nc4bo May 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj May 2016 #3
tsk tsk tsk emsimon33 May 2016 #4
Thank you, Jim Robinson. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #5
You didn't specify which cheek. ;) n/t woodsprite May 2016 #15
Amber alert. Free Republic is reporting TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #23
Well, this is a completely unsupportable post. DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #6
It's completely supportable Onlooker May 2016 #19
What a stinking pile of self indulgent bullshit your OP is. Wallow away. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #26
Take some deep breaths. Let it all out. Broward May 2016 #7
There haven't been moderators here since 2011. n/t QC May 2016 #8
It's okay, things will get better. There's a cream Autumn May 2016 #9
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #10
Link to the one-armed push-ups? NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #14
Sanders is an old time isolationist. He doesn't understand the global economy. He doesn't Trust Buster May 2016 #11
So ugly. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #12
What a stupid piece of writing Vattel May 2016 #13
I'm betting that Brock is not paying a living wage. You get what you pay for. Luminous Animal May 2016 #21
+ AtomicKitten May 2016 #32
Feel better now? Hillary is STILL a neocon, John Poet May 2016 #16
Oy. Shadowflash May 2016 #17
... whatchamacallit May 2016 #18
Yay! He's an old man argument! Oooh and your last paragraph is a bonus! Luminous Animal May 2016 #20
Thanks, truths are good. Thinkingabout May 2016 #22
Yeah those Third Way folks really care about the poor in Third World Nations Mnpaul May 2016 #24
Sanders is definitely less motivated to deal with race issues, gay marriage issues BootinUp May 2016 #25
Hillary Clinton spent 20 years opposing marriage equality in the name of her religion, touting Bluenorthwest May 2016 #31
The only response this deserves is nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #28
Justice, fairness, equality, peace and fighting for the greater good are never antiquated views. Philly-Union-Man May 2016 #29
I don't know where to begin Urchin May 2016 #30

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
27. More like change his drawers. This shit's so deep it's gotta be leaving skidmarks. nt
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:28 PM
May 2016

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DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
6. Well, this is a completely unsupportable post.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:12 PM
May 2016

It does have lots of words though, and that's nice.

What series of events has led you to a place in your life where you believe Bernie Sanders is a bad person, and unrestricted capitalism and nuclear energy (among other things) are good ideas?

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
19. It's completely supportable
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:21 PM
May 2016

Everything I wrote is fact based. Sanders isn't a bad person, he's a good person, but I'm pretty fed up with all the ludicrous attacks against Hillary that are also in effect attacks against her supporters. The fact is it's easy to frame Sanders just as negatively as Sanders supporters frame Hillary.

Nowhere did I advocate unrestricted capitalism, and certainly both Hillary and Sanders plans to raise taxes on the wealthy are positive. As far as nuclear energy goes, it needs to be safe, but it is low carbon so makes a lot of sense as a way of getting away from goal and other atmosphere damaging pollutants while we develop better alternatives.

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Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
11. Sanders is an old time isolationist. He doesn't understand the global economy. He doesn't
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:17 PM
May 2016

understand that Asia will be the fastest growing market in the next 50 years. He wants to play on people's fears and go backward. The problem being, you can't go back, only forward.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
16. Feel better now? Hillary is STILL a neocon,
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:18 PM
May 2016

"a Republican, a liar, corrupt, cackling, and so on" as you say.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
24. Yeah those Third Way folks really care about the poor in Third World Nations
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:25 PM
May 2016

'Dirty' Industries: Just between you and me, shouldn't the World Bank be encouraging MORE migration of the dirty industries to the LDCs [Least Developed Countries]? I can think of three reasons:

1) The measurements of the costs of health impairing pollution depends on the foregone earnings from increased morbidity and mortality. From this point of view a given amount of health impairing pollution should be done in the country with the lowest cost, which will be the country with the lowest wages. I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to that.

2) The costs of pollution are likely to be non-linear as the initial increments of pollution probably have very low cost. I've always thought that under-populated countries in Africa are vastly UNDER-polluted, their air quality is probably vastly inefficiently low compared to Los Angeles or Mexico City. Only the lamentable facts that so much pollution is generated by non-tradable industries (transport, electrical generation) and that the unit transport costs of solid waste are so high prevent world welfare enhancing trade in air pollution and waste.

3) The demand for a clean environment for aesthetic and health reasons is likely to have very high income elasticity. The concern over an agent that causes a one in a million change in the odds of prostrate[sic] cancer is obviously going to be much higher in a country where people survive to get prostrate[sic] cancer than in a country where under 5 mortality is 200 per thousand. Also, much of the concern over industrial atmosphere discharge is about visibility impairing particulates. These discharges may have very little direct health impact. Clearly trade in goods that embody aesthetic pollution concerns could be welfare enhancing. While production is mobile the consumption of pretty air is a non-tradable.
The problem with the arguments against all of these proposals for more pollution in LDCs (intrinsic rights to certain goods, moral reasons, social concerns, lack of adequate markets, etc.) could be turned around and used more or less effectively against every Bank proposal for liberalization.


and some here are under the delusion that the TPP with allow workers in Vietnam to form a union.

BootinUp

(51,325 posts)
25. Sanders is definitely less motivated to deal with race issues, gay marriage issues
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:26 PM
May 2016

and other issues that he probably sees as divisive and preventing Dems from building a bigger coalition. Problem is, Dems are not going to suddenly stop being the champions on these issues and we shouldn't.

I agree in general and for many of the reasons you state, that Sanders would not be good as our party leader. Rather I see him as someone who hopefully makes us better by being a voice for those that feel unrepresented.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
31. Hillary Clinton spent 20 years opposing marriage equality in the name of her religion, touting
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:33 PM
May 2016

DOMA, claiming the sanctified superiority of straight people in the eyes of God. Her rhetoric was a wall against progress and over the years it became increasingly impossible to endure. Still I had a pretty good view of her until she preached that vile sermon praising Ronald Reagan as an AIDS activist when he was in fact guilty of criminal inaction while tens of thousands of Americans died. She is either pandering to right wingers or she's ignorant of basic history.

So this crap you pull exploiting gay people to bash Bernie is very very hard to look at. It makes me loathe your candidate and her cohort. I hated Reagan. Hillary and Co adore Reagan.

 

Philly-Union-Man

(79 posts)
29. Justice, fairness, equality, peace and fighting for the greater good are never antiquated views.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016

Unless, of course, war, corruption, inequality and fighting for the good of the rich are in your wheelhouse.

In that case, you might indeed find this great man to be less than.

 

Urchin

(248 posts)
30. I don't know where to begin
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:31 PM
May 2016

It's unfair to give jobs to Americans because we should be giving those jobs to people in other countries and let Americans become homeless?

Lunacy.



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