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reddread

(6,896 posts)
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:05 AM May 2016

Never mind what an establishment candidate says, how does Saudi Arabia feel about global warming?

once you determine that,
you know the establishment candidate's real policy on the subject.

thank God it isnt a serious problem, right?
otherwise they would be talking about it a lot,
wouldnt they?

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Never mind what an establishment candidate says, how does Saudi Arabia feel about global warming? (Original Post) reddread May 2016 OP
Establishment is a white dude serving for decades in the most powerful legislative body on Earth. nt LexVegas May 2016 #1
yeah, way to face your problems reddread May 2016 #2
there are white dudes and then, there are white dudettes. Hiraeth May 2016 #5
I feel the same about people of all colors and gender reddread May 2016 #8
lack of empathy/compassion knows no color/gender. Hiraeth May 2016 #10
but it may well be genetic reddread May 2016 #12
I don't doubt it is genetic and fully expect it to be identified as a survival type instinct Hiraeth May 2016 #18
it certainly isnt an intellectual decision reddread May 2016 #19
yes. reptilian. Hiraeth May 2016 #21
However, if you shut down domestic hydrocarbon energy sources CJCRANE May 2016 #3
wind and sun unreliable? reddread May 2016 #4
fuck those guys... they are on the way out Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #6
But pumping the stuff out like crazy. What happened to Peak Oil? CJCRANE May 2016 #7
it's complicated... but mostly it was a flawed theory that was over-sold by conspiracy theorists Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #9
well its sort of like trying to apply equitable economic theory reddread May 2016 #11
KSA is almost out of ground water so they are eyeing Syria's GreatGazoo May 2016 #13
Our current establishment President has drastically shifted our dependence on SA. NCTraveler May 2016 #14
Clinton will dangle from the strings of Saudi Arabia until we cut those strings reddread May 2016 #15
Thanks for the smile. NCTraveler May 2016 #16
Do you think that insane bellicose posturing against Iran, Syria and Libya were for our sake? reddread May 2016 #17
How many Iranians, Libyans and Syrians worked on 9-11-01? reddread May 2016 #20
No. I think those places have serious humanitarian issues. NCTraveler May 2016 #22
Saudis and most likely bin Laden attacked and killed many US servicemen in Saudi Arabia reddread May 2016 #24
Your op is a straw man so you are just moving down the line. NCTraveler May 2016 #25
dont you wish reddread May 2016 #29
fracking is Problem, NOT solution reddread May 2016 #23
Now you are speaking for me. NCTraveler May 2016 #27
Have you seen all of the 'solar' in Saudi Arabia? ViseGrip May 2016 #26
just like any good drug dealer reddread May 2016 #30
Better believe it!...nt SidDithers May 2016 #28
Study: Without a drastic reduction in greenhouse-gases, Saudi-Arabia will be lethally hot by 2100. DetlefK May 2016 #31

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
5. there are white dudes and then, there are white dudettes.
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:16 AM
May 2016

not much difference between the two, actually.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
8. I feel the same about people of all colors and gender
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:21 AM
May 2016

but we all think we are different, special, better, lesser.
but we are all the same, minus the amount of social snot and bloody hands.
definitely many variations there.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
12. but it may well be genetic
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:25 AM
May 2016

and that brings so many things into question.
if only questions were being accepted.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
18. I don't doubt it is genetic and fully expect it to be identified as a survival type instinct
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

probably from the brain stem, lower level, not a high functioning skill.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
3. However, if you shut down domestic hydrocarbon energy sources
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:11 AM
May 2016

that means the foreign hydrocarbon producers get more of a monopoly.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
4. wind and sun unreliable?
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:14 AM
May 2016

simply in terms of newer more efficient technologies, our useage
as individuals is being reduced drastically. conservation, even when
achieved through technological advancement rather than conscientious use,
makes huge differences.

just consider how the Saudi's view the threat of global warming, and how much
influence they hold on "our" government.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
11. well its sort of like trying to apply equitable economic theory
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:23 AM
May 2016

that aint what people want to do.
and they surely feel like making hay in today's sunshine.
these are serious climate criminals, and they live like kings.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. Our current establishment President has drastically shifted our dependence on SA.
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:25 AM
May 2016

Clinton wishes to continue that trend. While that says little about global climate change it does blow your thought process and how you have come to your conclusion about the "establishment" out of the water.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
15. Clinton will dangle from the strings of Saudi Arabia until we cut those strings
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:27 AM
May 2016

the Bush/Clinton dynasty and the Middle East horror story are
hardly turning a page here.
I would not closely conflate Obama and the Clintons.
I wish there was a comparison.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
17. Do you think that insane bellicose posturing against Iran, Syria and Libya were for our sake?
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:30 AM
May 2016

I mean, do ya?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
20. How many Iranians, Libyans and Syrians worked on 9-11-01?
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:32 AM
May 2016

Im sure they were behind it though.
right?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. No. I think those places have serious humanitarian issues.
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

Iran I'm not as worried about as the other two you mention. And most of my concern in the two other countries is humanitarian. It's amazing to me that Assad is still in power. The people of Syria are in a devastating situation.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
24. Saudis and most likely bin Laden attacked and killed many US servicemen in Saudi Arabia
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:38 AM
May 2016

So why were the real (Saudi) culprits executed before the US could question them, and WHY
was Iran given the blame for several years after 9-11-01?

BECAUSE THE MILITARIZED GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES LIES ABOUT TERRORISM.

understandably.
but not acceptable in civilization.
we need to find our way back to one.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
23. fracking is Problem, NOT solution
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

if that is what you consider helpful,
we may have determined the problem.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
26. Have you seen all of the 'solar' in Saudi Arabia?
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

I think they care about it more than our country!

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
31. Study: Without a drastic reduction in greenhouse-gases, Saudi-Arabia will be lethally hot by 2100.
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:50 AM
May 2016
http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v6/n2/full/nclimate2833.html

Saudi-Arabia is royally fucked. Pick your poison:
- islamic extremists infiltrating your country
- going bankrupt from low oil-prices
- running out of groundwater and relying on african colonies for growing food
- no economic diversification
- Global warming will make the eastern part of Saudi-Arabia, the states at the Persian Gulf, and the southern part of Iran so hot that being outside during daytime becomes unbearable and possibly lethal.
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