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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:50 AM May 2016

An active, agitated left wing is now an actual fact

And is not going away no matter how these primaries end. Many of us may grudgingly vote for Hillary- but if you think the issues Bernie's been talking about are gonna just go away? You're wrong. Nearly half the party supports him- and it's the future of the party, the young voters. So go ahead and hippie punch and dismiss us at your peril. This is a long game, and won't be over in July or November.

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An active, agitated left wing is now an actual fact (Original Post) TDale313 May 2016 OP
Yeah, we know. Buzz Clik May 2016 #1
After hearing this every 4 years since Eisenhower it COLGATE4 May 2016 #2
+1 Sparkly May 2016 #19
Want to bash some social security recipients while you're at it? Prism May 2016 #17
So you were one of the chorus ... Buzz Clik May 2016 #18
You don't get to be a victim here Prism May 2016 #22
Save it! You know goddamned well what happened there. Buzz Clik May 2016 #23
I saw your post Prism May 2016 #24
Ok. LexVegas May 2016 #3
So the perpetually disgruntled has advanced griffi94 May 2016 #4
BINGO. Triana May 2016 #5
...you forgot the part where you say,"And fuck you, Generation X..." ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #6
Well, I am a GenX er TDale313 May 2016 #7
The young in your post is misleading. ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #9
Fair point, and yes, many of Bernie's supporters are older TDale313 May 2016 #11
It does, but given what Clinton's campaign is doing with that information, it's a really ScreamingMeemie May 2016 #12
You know - this is the truth about Gen X that is never discussed. Fawke Em May 2016 #13
No one has said we want the issues to go away. randome May 2016 #8
Which is good ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #10
+a brazillian! Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #14
First was Occupy, which was by definition leaderless. Great, but doesn't track human nature. yodermon May 2016 #15
Good, nobody wants the issues to go away! ContinentalOp May 2016 #16
The 'agitation' depends largely on increasingly urgent dreams of an email indictment. randome May 2016 #20
I was reading some comments on politico and a couple of people were dana_b May 2016 #21
 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
17. Want to bash some social security recipients while you're at it?
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:49 AM
May 2016

Yeah, I saw that. You're not a Democrat for bashing social security recipients. Flat out.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
18. So you were one of the chorus ...
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:41 AM
May 2016

... Who intentionally twisted a note of support into an opportunity to spew more hate? Like I was shocked.

Good for you.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
22. You don't get to be a victim here
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:37 AM
May 2016

I work with people who are 100% on Social Security.

You were ignorant and you spewed. For you, all this is a fun game. Neat. I work with people barely hanging on. So, do you know how much a 100% disabled person gets in the Bay Area? $900/month.

You want to mock that? Make fun? Explain where they went wrong in being disabled? Talk about how they shouldn't rely on that?

Oh, poor fella. People bopped your nose when you went full Teapublican on the issue. *patpat* you'll be fine.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
23. Save it! You know goddamned well what happened there.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

I responded to a poster who said he was horrified that a presidential candidate would consider changing SS because he and his wife received 90% of their monthly income from SS. My response was that I was horrified that 90% of his income was from SS. Anyone who was NOT looking to pick a fight would have realized I was empathizing not criticizing. A small handful of the overly dramatic decided to take issue, and you're continuing that.

Have the last word. I won't be reading your response.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
24. I saw your post
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

I know exactly what you said. It was precisely in line with all your other rhetoric.

If it was so innocent, you'd not have full on deleted when people gave you the wholloping you deserved.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
4. So the perpetually disgruntled has advanced
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

to being the perpetually agitated.

I'll bet they really really mean it this time.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
5. BINGO.
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:14 AM
May 2016

The DNC/DWS/Hillary machinery has a YUUUGE shadow at their back. And that shadow is following them and will likely overtake them in the next 4-8 years and FAST.

PEOPLE. HAVE. HAD IT. with the goddamned Republican Lite Democrats. Of which Hillary is one.

This shit isn't going to fly much longer and is BARELY flying now with a LOT of propping up by DNC/DWS and BIG MONEY from Wall St., corprats and their lobbyists. THEY and the candidate they bought are part of the problem.

People are figuring that out. FINALLY.

This shit won't fly for "Democrats" next election.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
6. ...you forgot the part where you say,"And fuck you, Generation X..."
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

There are a good deal of not-so-young people supporting Sanders. Don't forget that, or you make the same mistakes the establishment does.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
7. Well, I am a GenX er
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

And we've always gotten lost in the shuffle. So no, I haven't forgotten or ignored us.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
9. The young in your post is misleading.
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016

A good many of us (yourself, apparently, included) have spent time and $ on establishment campaigns over two decades now. We are done, and they need to stop looking at us as "frat boys and their girlfriends." Hillary and company have done a good job at that, so I do my best at shutting down that stereotype.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
11. Fair point, and yes, many of Bernie's supporters are older
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016

But the fact that his ideas are incredibly popular with young people matters. It means this is the trajectory, and that's a really good thing.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
12. It does, but given what Clinton's campaign is doing with that information, it's a really
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:05 AM
May 2016

good thing to emphasize his older demographic.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
13. You know - this is the truth about Gen X that is never discussed.
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:13 AM
May 2016

Note: I'm also a Gen Xer.

Sandwiched between the two huge generations - the Boomers and the Millennials - Gen Xers have never really had a voice. There weren't enough of us to override the Reagan Democrats-turned-Third-Wayer in the 90s, so we either just went along with it or we stopped caring/voting.

We are also the first generation that really isn't doing as well as our parents. I know people think the Millennials are that generation, but that's not entirely accurate. While we've done OK financially WHILE we work, we're probably not going to be able to retire with the comfort that our parents had. We have no pensions, cannot adequately save for retirement, lose money to the wealthy in the stock market (401Ks) and see our Social Security being cut to the bone. Now that we're nearing retirement age, we can see what that's doing to both us and our Millennial children - they can't get decent jobs because we can't retire out of the workforce.

So, at long last, Gen X is waking up and siding with our children instead of going along with our parents' generation. It's the natural order of things: you fight harder for your kids than your parents.

And we ARE tired of the establishment that foisted the lack of choices on us. We're tired of being told to "go along to get along" and we want to do something about it before we get too old to do it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. No one has said we want the issues to go away.
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:49 AM
May 2016

If you clearly can't succeed with Sanders, then why not help push Clinton further to the left? But bottom line, stop trash-talking either candidate.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
10. Which is good ...
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:57 AM
May 2016
And is not going away no matter how these primaries end. Many of us may grudgingly vote for Hillary- but if you think the issues Bernie's been talking about are gonna just go away?


The issues have always been here, and will continue beyond this election ... what is uncertain (and based on history) is whether the effort will continue beyond the primaries/General Election.

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
15. First was Occupy, which was by definition leaderless. Great, but doesn't track human nature.
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

Then came Bernie, finally providing a leader to organize around.
If they can stay unified, organized, and inspired maybe they'll actually be able to make an impact by 2020 or so.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
16. Good, nobody wants the issues to go away!
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:47 AM
May 2016

All we ask is that you "grudgingly vote for Hillary" if she's the nominee. We'll accomplish more later when we have a better candidate than Sanders and hopefully a Democratic congressional majority to back it up! For now let's make sure that Trump doesn't get to appoint two or three supreme court justices.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. The 'agitation' depends largely on increasingly urgent dreams of an email indictment.
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:46 AM
May 2016

But whatever gets you off to the next fake scandal, I guess.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
21. I was reading some comments on politico and a couple of people were
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:48 AM
May 2016

saying how after Bernie drops out, that the "Sandernistas" need to bring their high energy and dedication over to Hillary. I laughed out loud - they are SO delusional!

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