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virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
3. We have already gone down the path of the Republican party....now money is more important.....
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

than many traditional Democratic values.

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
4. I share your sentiments.
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

While we would all love to get everything we want without compromise, sometimes, perhaps even most of the time, it is necessary.

I have taken to task some of the calls for purity - calls that are coming almost exclusively from one candidate's supporters - and I have received some brush back for it. My voting record has even been questioned here. It's a sad state of affairs when trying to be inclusive and tolerant is met with disdain by members of the left.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
13. Would you feel the same if your vote was suppressed & compromised?
Thu May 12, 2016, 06:25 PM
May 2016

Just asking...

If you read back through the history of this primary season, the tenor was very different before all the shennagins and Rovian tactics. Unfortunately, research shows that the liberal brain is very different from the conservative brain.

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
14. The tenor changed when supporters of candidate A tried to figure out why candidate B was winning.
Thu May 12, 2016, 06:36 PM
May 2016

Everything in candidate A's echo chamber led those supporters to believe something was wrong. Ridiculous accusations and worse ensued as typically happens on the internet.

You can easily interchange both Hillary and Bernie for candidate A and candidate B.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
15. No, look at the facts
Thu May 12, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

Liberals tend to be fact-based which can be a significant problem for those trying to suppress and minipulate.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
5. False analogy.
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:43 PM
May 2016

Republicans refuse to compromise toward the center (or sane right, really).

Democrats should absolutely not compromise further right.

It is all we have done for decades and it has had disastrous results

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
6. Too late: massive voter suppression, election fraud demonstrated by out of range exit poles in
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

numerous primary elections, hired Internet attack trolls, virtually every dirty trick thinkable employed, ALL heavily to the benefit of Hillary. Now we have dirty, right wing billionaire money flowing Hillary's way and supportive voices such as Dick Cheney, and Charles Koch, and a convention controlled by corporatists and billionaires. So, Too late, my cold-hearted friend!

Signed, a lifelong FDR Democrat.

PS> To all Republicrats, GO BACK TO YOUR REPUBLICON PARTY.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
7. We have already gone too far down the path
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:47 PM
May 2016

By the way, welcome to DU! We are so very impressed by all our new members in the past couple of months. I am so pleased that this primary season is getting more people involved in the conversation.

A friend of mine noted that once the DNC, state Democratic Parties, and the Hillary Campaign adopted the tactics of the Republican Party to suppress the Bernie vote, they not only went down the path, they added landscaping and a few extra yards or more to the path.

I fear that not only will a significant number of life-long Democrats leave the Party and the Party will lose the next generation of voters also to either unaffiliated, independent, or a third party, but that many will be so angry that they will even vote and work for Trump's election. While the conservative brain is easily manipulated through fear, research indicates, the liberal brain is not. This could be a very serious miscalculation on the part of the DNC and it scares the heck out of me.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
10. Compromise isn't the problem...
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:53 PM
May 2016

...starting points are. The Democratic Party has been starting at the compromise, driving policy rightward.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
11. I'm a little bit at a loss to know what exactly is our ideology these days?
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:58 PM
May 2016

It seems to me we've already compromised away half of the New Deal. And one of our candidates seems fine with that.

It isn't compromise when you start in the middle and then only go rightward from there. It's capitulation.

BootinUp

(47,139 posts)
17. I see a definite leftward movement from 2008.
Thu May 12, 2016, 06:45 PM
May 2016

Have you read ANY of Clintons issue pages?

Judging by Bernie's attacks on her, which lack a lot of specificity and disagreement over policy I think he would agree.

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