This Bernie Bro Is With Her

[William769]

Within the past few weeks, the 2016 presidential election has taken clearer shape. Donald Trump’s rivals have all cowered and bowed out, making him the likely nominee for the Republicans. Hillary Clinton is the presumptive nominee for the Democratic Party, although Bernie Sanders has not yet begun to give up.


I supported Sanders and voted for him in the Illinois primary. I think that on the issues, he has proven himself to be bold, sincere and forward-thinking. I think that his campaign has molded Clinton’s in a positive way. But a nomination is not realistic. And I will vote for Clinton and the Democrats.


Clinton has been in politics for a long time, and while she doesn’t have the consistency of Sanders’s record, she was a very liberal senator during her time in Congress. She was a senator during the dark ages of George W. Bush’s presidency, when it was often hard to speak one’s mind. The entire country was deranged, so any missteps then should be understood as a product of the time. As a secretary of state, she performed valiantly. She does her homework, is a strategic thinker, has the savvy to strengthen relationships with our allies and would break ground as the first female president.


It’s important that the Dems win this presidency and retake the Senate. As the physicist Niels Bohr noted, “It’s hard to make predictions, especially about the future.” Right now, the electoral map favors Hillary Clinton. But polling has been notoriously unreliable this election cycle. So let me toss whatever influence I have into imploring you the reader to vote against Trump and everything he represents. (Including, by the way, a foreign policy advisor who is a Knight of Malta, which influenced the George W. Bush administration, as I previously reported.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-vognar/this-bernie-bro-is-with-her_b_9906194.html

[yallerdawg]

1. We all have a common goal.

Elect the Democrat and defeat the Republican.

It's really pretty simple.

[northernsouthern]

51. No we don't.

Just because you have a "D" in your name does not make you a good person...I am voting for a person that holds democratic values, not a wolf wearing the clothes of one. Equating to black and white id a disservice to the country and is the first step towards a more corrupt future.

[George II]

56. Bernie Sanders has a "D" in his name, but then again he had two "R"s in his name, too.

[Sheepshank]

58. Our goal is *not* to defeat Republicans?

I don't think you speak for a majority of Democrats.

[workinclasszero]

57. Elect the Democrat and defeat the Republican.

Damn right!

[Iliyah]

2. K & R

[guillaumeb]

3. I think characterizing HRC's consistent hawkish behavior as "missteps",

or something in any way anomalous in her record, is incorrect, but I agree that in the general election, the goal should be to have a huge Democratic win, and then to push for change. If the Sanders enthusiasm is harnessed into political pressure, something that President Obama never did, than Sanders and the country could end up being the long term winner.

[CoffeeCat]

7. Elect a Democrat like Hillary Clinton and push for change?

Wow, talk about rose-colored glasses. Clinton is wayyyy farther to the right than Obama on foreign policy, reigning in Wall Street, fracking, and she seems to be against single payer--which was supposed to be the next step, after Obamacare.

Obama was liberal on some issues, and he certainly has kept Hlllary Clinton from "doing stupid shit" when it comes to foreign policy. However, I would say that liberals didn't fare too well on many issues. And Clinton is even further right than Obama. It's clear that the Clintons share a disdain for liberals/Bernie supporters. Clinton is hostile toward us.

How anyone could truly believe that we could affect the changes we want, with HRC in the White House--is beyond me.

[guillaumeb]

11. Real push for change will start locally. Expecting any Presidential candidate to be

a savior is unrealistic. Even if Sanders became the eventual nominee, and even if he were to be elected, the battle would have just begun.

I agree that HRC is a Democrat in the mold of William Clinton and Barack Obama, but at the least the SCOTUS nominees would be better than any GOP nominees.

[CoffeeCat]

18. If anything, this country will slide farther

into corruption and toward total Fascism.

We will most likely go to war with Iran.

We're on the brink. We either pull this country back now from a total corrupt takeover of our government; or we slide into very dark times. Hillary Clinton is horrendously corrupt. She'll use the Presidency as a playground where her rich and powerful special-interest friends will gain further power and infiltration into our democracy.

The stakes are so high.

If it was between Bernie and Obama or Bernie and Biden--I wouldn't be so concerned.

She's the absolute worst.

[guillaumeb]

23. There is no absolute worst.

But President Cheney would have been an ideal "worst" candidate.

My feeling is that most politicians are generally as progressive as they have to be. If there is enough push, a politician will go in that direction. It is up to voters to provide that push.

[redstateblues]

38. Extreme hyperbole. Do you realize You sound like Ted Cruz saying the country will disintegrate

If Hillary is elected?

[CoffeeCat]

52. I'm not surprised that Ted Cruz and I agree

Because the vast majority in this county do not like Hillary Clinton. 70 percent of Americans do not find her trustworthy. Her likeability ratings are in the toilet and close to Donald Trump's stats.

We're a big group! What can I say? The vast majority in this country hates Lima Beans too. Doesn't mean that every person who hates Lima beans is the same, right?

The left doesn't like her policies and they don't trust her; she polls abysmally with Independents and Ted Kruz types think that she killed Vince Foster and that Chelsea Clinton is Web Hubble's daughter.

It's a big, big club beyond the Hillary bubble.

[Live and Learn]

54. Ahh, the lead from behind argument. nt

[Baobab]

67. trade deals are forever so no change after its approved without huge bailouts for corporations sorry

Nothing could be more permanent

More so than countries

thats the way they are designed.

Want Proof? Look at these cases..

The GATS and South Africa's National Health Act | Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives
https://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/reports/gats-and-south-africas-national-health-act

http://www.italaw.com/cases/368

http://www.italaw.com/sites/default/files/case-documents/italaw3207.pdf

Also, fast track lasts Five and a half more years

[dchill]

4. What a Crock of Brock...

"My fellow Bernie supporters, keep the vision Bernie has inspired in us. Keep reminding yourself that Hillary Clinton can dream big too and vote for her in the general election. And with this, we can keep Donald Trump out of the White House."

This is obvious ratfuckery. He's no more a former Bernie supporter that the author of this OP. MAYBE Hillary CAN dream big, too - but her dreams are of a much less liberal or selfless variety. Neocon dreams.

[bvar22]

9. ^^^This^^^^

Nailed it.
Full of perfume, lacking any substance what-so-ever.

"She was a senator during the dark ages of George W. Bush’s presidency, when it was often hard to speak one’s mind. "

Hillary had no problem "speaking her mind" while turning her back on the majority of Democrats and helping Bush and the Warmongers get their WAR on.
She spoke her mind quite openly, cheer leading FOR the Invasion and publicly celebrating.

(I need a shower after reading that ).

[kerry-is-my-prez]

12. Bye. Hope you smell nice when you get out of your shower......

[dchill]

14. Up next - Iran?

Maybe the indictment fairy will save many American lives.

[redstateblues]

39. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress

Not liberal enough for the Purity Party for sure. Then again Bernie can't even win the nomination of his own party.

[bvar22]

61. Hillary has never been a member of the Progressive Caucus,

and has a very carefully tailored voting record to make her appear acceptable,
but when it really counted, Hillary could not be Counted On.
We used to have s few Liberal Senators, but they were either killed, or steamrolled out of office by lack of support from Party Establishment.


[font color=firebrick][center]"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone [/font][/center] [center] [/font]
[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center][/font]


Now THAT ^ is what a "Liberal Senator" looks like.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

15. Think someone will alert on this post. Nasty.......

[dchill]

19. It would be my first...

But trust me, I mean every word, in every sense, so, if alerted, I truly don't give a shit. But I do think my post is FAR less offensive that the "former BernieBro" pile.

[ismnotwasm]

5. K&R

[BootinUp]

6. Yes. nt

[Rass]

8. Gonna have to confiscate..

...your Bernie Bro and progressive card. Here is your right-wing card. Good luck with the free-trade and offshoring of American jobs policy. Good luck with locking up more minorities with "tough on crime" laws.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

13. Uh - where is the section about guns? Conveniently left out, huh?

[Rass]

17. Guns might be useful

People might need guns to hunt for food after she offshores all of the American jobs.

[amborin]

20. there's this: Pres Obama called her "Annie Oakley":

and:

Secretary Clinton approved a $4 million sale for Sandy Hook gun maker Remington in 2012
In the year of the Sandy Hook massacre, Secretary Clinton approved $120 million in sales for the companies that made the murder weapons Adam Lanza used to kill 20 children and 6 adults, including a $4 million sale for gun maker Remington.

On 14 April 2016 a judge ruled that the Sandy Hook families’ lawsuit against gunmaker Remington Arms can move forward. Hillary Clinton is using the massacre for political gain in the presidential campaign. At the Univision debate in March, Clinton said “you want to talk about corporate greed? The gun manufacturers sell guns to make as much money as they can make.” But a newly identified Pentagon document shows that Clinton herself aided ‘corporate greed’ of Remington. (A summary table of Clinton-approved 2012 gun and ammunition sales is included at the bottom of this blog page.)

The Pentagon document also shows Clinton that year approved over $100 million dollars ($116,160,367.19 by my count) in ammunition sales by Alliant Techsystems, the parent company of Savage Arms, which makes the MK II-F bolt action rifle Lanza used to kill his mother. I have not seen reporting on who manufactured the AR-15 ammunition used by Lanza. Alliant’s subsidiary Federal Cartidge sells ammunition for AR-15 rifles in boxes of 100; Lanza took 300 rounds of Ar-15 ammunition to the school.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511747577

[kerry-is-my-prez]

10. Glad to have your support - thank you. Posts like yours make me feel more hopeful......

[Kall]

16. Favorite Group: Hillary Clinton. 64% of total.

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Yeah, you sure look like a "Bernie Bro"

It's sad that this is what you're reduced to, in terms of "outreach".

[Maedhros]

21. Any OP posted about Bernie supporters jumping ship to support Hillary are propaganda.

Just more lies from the Hillary camp.

[NuclearDem]

28. People who take HA Goodman and TYT seriously complaining about propaganda

[William769]

31. I in no way claimed this as my own.

I read it posted it her and even gave a link. What's the problem?

I think anyone that posts on DU knows I support Hillary. I just thought it was a good article and wanted to share it showing that there are sane people in Sanders supporters.

[Iliyah]

44. Yep.

[greatauntoftriplets]

64. Pretty obvious that you aren't the author of that piece.

[William769]

65. I guess it'not just a math thing.

[catnhatnh]

22. Another past BernieBro

Without a single posting on HuffPost (where he has other supposed journalism) or any social media supporting Bernie... Surely Hilary folks would never engage in ratfucking? Except of course this guy is now a Clinton supporter and proven ratfucking liar.

[Eric J in MN]

36. Yes, that's the thing uniting all the authors

...of these I-switched-to-Clinton essays: zero evidence of having ever urged people to vote for Sanders.

[sheshe2]

24. KnR

Thank you.

[lunamagica]

25. K&R. Thank you, William!

[quickesst]

26. It should be...

... A common goal for everyone here at Democratic Underground to make sure a Democrat is elected as president. I do not agree with the assertion by some here that it would be better for Hillary Clinton to be defeated if she is the nominee and burn any progress that has been made to the ground. If that happens it will be a much longer road to get to where we want to be.

[William769]

32. Yes I am. So what?

It's a article I posted and the author is not me.

[SheenaR]

34. My mistake.

I did not see the link, thus I thought these were your words. I'll self delete. Apologies.

[William769]

35. No problem. Thank you.

[bobbobbins01]

29. Fake!

I'd love it if just one of these so called converts actually had a history. Kinda strange that none have any sort of record of supporting Sanders in the past.

[mr_liberal]

30. He's not sincere.

He's not even trying to win, and he knows his proposals would never pass.

[Sancho]

33. interesting read...

maybe some of the Blemmings will see the light!

[Eric J in MN]

37. Hillary Clinton voting for The Patriot Act and

...to let our drinking water get poisoned with MTBE is "very liberal" according to that writer.

[sadoldgirl]

43. Then why have you been in the Clinton group

for so long?

Hey, we can read their OPs and posts, even though
we don't engage.

Hice try, but big FAIL!

[William769]

45. Is there a reading compression problem here?

Oy vey!

[oasis]

50. "Hey, we can read"

[jillan]

46. Anyone who says they are a Bernie Bro is not a Bernie supporter.

Next!

[Warren DeMontague]

47. "Bernie Bro" is like hipster. It's a put down. No one self-identifies with the term.

Ever.

[Warren DeMontague]

48. Niels Bohr probably didn't say that.

Yogi Berra might have, though.

[Haveadream]

49. I was thinking maybe Mark Twain

so I looked it up. Looks like we are all correct. Interesting read. It is a popular turn of phrase:

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/10/20/no-predict/

[cherokeeprogressive]

53. Cool. TBH though, you no longer fit the definition of "Bernie Bro".

[George II]

55. Kick and highly recommended!

[kstewart33]

62. K & R. nt

[William769]

63. ROFLMFAO!

[jack_krass]

60. cool story "Bro"

[wildeyed]

66. kick

[Mary Mac]

68. welcome.

Thanks for posting