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[griffi94]

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[Merryland]

1. are you series?

[CentralCoaster]

2. Who is Berine? I see this a lot, "Berine".

What is that?

[puffy socks]

118. It's a typo?

Is that really that difficult to figure out?

[griffi94]

7. Yes

If he or Jane intentionally broke the law.

Nobody should be above the law.

[pangaia]

47. What about shrub?

[griffi94]

61. He wasn't investigated.

[pangaia]

64. Oh... why not. ?

[Seeinghope]

65. It's a right-wing conspiracy!

[griffi94]

80. No. It looks like he's involved in some financial chicanery

[Vote2016]

3. No, it's the other one who broke the law. You're thinking of Hillary

[griffi94]

12. No it was in the news today

the FEC is investigating Bernie for
irregularities in his fund raisning.

If he's not totally above board he should
do some jail time IMHO.

[Vote2016]

36. I see you don't understand the difference between a criminal case (like Hillary's FBI investigation)

and a civil infraction (like Hillary's 40ish premeditated FOIA violations she is being sued for).

Keep reading the newspapers and the difference will come into sharper focus soon.

[passiveporcupine]

37. Every month they have to send in a report

Every month there are irregularities that they call out and give them a deadline to fix and or respond. So far no news source has followed up on any of those old stories, so I'm assuming they have all been fixed, as will this one (although I'm not seeing a story in the news on google).

If you accidentally make an error on your taxes and the IRS asks you to fix it, what to you do? Fix it, or go to jail?

You need to stop these stupid recurring stories that don't have a leg to stand on because they are nothing stories, being pushed by Brock to drum up anger and loathing in the Hill camp, and apparently they are working.

[griffi94]

38. So the Sanders campaign

was just negligent and not criminal.

That's kind of a cold comfort.

Bernie should come clean.

[tonedevil]

51. Can we assume...

you felt the same about the fines levied by the FEC against President Obama's campaign? Or should we assume you are a raging hypocrite?

[griffi94]

54. This OP is about Bernie

Obama isn't running for office.

[tonedevil]

59. Since President Obama...

and Senator Sanders have similar records regarding the FEC I wondered if you care about FEC sanctions or just bashing Senator Sanders.

[griffi94]

78. Bernie is the one here who has broken the law.

[tonedevil]

100. Do you care about the law?

Or are you looking for something to bash Senator Sanders over. This OP looks like you are opting for bash. In so doing you are exposing your raging hypocrisy. Thank you for showing us what you are.

[griffi94]

105. IT just seems like Bernie

is using his privilage to subvert justice.

[tonedevil]

124. If you won't examine...

how the law has been applied in the past what basis do have for that conclusion? Are you under the impression the normal penalty for the violations the FEC sent Senator Sanders letters over result in jail time for the offenders? If that is not the case why would you demand that for Senator Sanders?

[passiveporcupine]

69. Doesn't matter. these kinds of reporting errors happen to campaigns all the time

No one goes to jail over it. They fix their errors and move on.

Yet for some reason, you want Bernie in prison. I think that says quite a bit about you, and very little about this issue.

[griffi94]

112. This is at least the second time

Bernie has been caught red handed in financial misconduct
with regards to his campaign donations.

[JimDandy]

66. Why doesn't Act Blue have a filter that can catch and reject over-limit contributions?

This could be happening to anyone including when "Maddie" makes lots of little donations to Hillary.

[FuzzyRabbit]

46. Barnie should go to jail just like

the thousands of other candidates whose fund raising reported some irregularities.

Oh, I just remembered, sometimes they are fined, and sometimes they revise their reports, but they are never jailed.

But Berine deserves to go to jail because he is running against Hillary. Right?

[edbermac]

99. Jury results

On Thu May 12, 2016, 08:35 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Barnie should go to jail just like
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1951644

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This repeatedly saying that "Barnie" or "Berine" should go to jail can be nothing other than good old-fashioned trolling.

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[pangaia]

49. In the news???? Today??? Reall

Holy moly !!! Where. I never watch the news. I have no clue what is going on..

[seabeyond]

42. They keep looking and find nothing, so, I guess you are good with moving forward on Sanders.

[JudyM]

79. Yep, money laundering campaign finances is a bit worse than under-reporting.

[NurseJackie]

4. :-P

[KingFlorez]

5. If money was being used improperly, he should be reprimanded

I'm not going to start screaming about him going to prison, because that's pretty out there in orbit. But if there are issues with money they should be dealt with accordingly.

[NWCorona]

8. I can agree with that.

[griffi94]

16. No I'd much rather see him in prison

His privilage shouldn't keep him from facing
the consequences of his criminal behavior.

[pangaia]

57. You are absolutely right.

He and Jane should be in solitary, imho.

[enid602]

83. together?

Not together! That would be cruel and unusual punishment.

[agracie]

119. Plus then it wouldn't be solitary then, would it ?

[passiveporcupine]

88. Not here. They need to go to Gitmo.

I'm sure there is some terrorism involved.

[passiveporcupine]

60. Of course you'd rather see him in Prison

for no reason...

that's what this thread is all about. Now I'm asking again for a link to the news that he is being investigated, because everything I'm coming up with on google are wild assed statements like yours that he is doing all this illegal shit, and yet all those FEC reports got corrected...and the dates of all those stories are a couple of months old...they have been fixed and are no longer a problem.

So where is the news link to the current problem, and who is investigating him?

Come on...fess up or keep this crap out of DU.

[griffi94]

93. If he broke the law

He should face some jail time just like anybody else would.

[passiveporcupine]

120. How about we let the FEC decide if he broke a law and needs to go to prison

Or have you decided you are judge jury and executioner?

I said you were going on ignore, and I'm doing it now. Not wasting another minute of my time on your nonsense.

Plonk!

[cherokeeprogressive]

126. What a fucking joke.

[passiveporcupine]

41. all the past ones have been

I see no reason this one won't be, But like clock work, Hill camp has to drag each one out like it's a violent crime or something.

[pangaia]

6. You know what?

I am going to rec this just because it is so fucking funny..

[CaliforniaPeggy]

10. My dear pangaia!

Your sigline is especially appropriate for this OP!

[pangaia]

40. LOL

[griffi94]

19. Campaign finance fraud is not really a laughing matter

I hope he just owns up to his criminal intent.

I wonder if he was skimming for his personal gain.

[passiveporcupine]

45. OK, this one has gone off the deep end

You need to stop this crap now. You have no facts to back up these heinous accusations you just made about Bernie.

Go stand in the corner.

[Kittycat]

103. A little too much brocktrolli for dinner, I'm thinking.

[passiveporcupine]

108. A little too much of something.

But Brocktrolli is very clever!

[pangaia]

62. I'm sure he was

No question. He should be in Guantanamera

[griffi94]

67. Yo soy un hombre sincerto

[pangaia]

77. Wo bu dong.

[passiveporcupine]

89. Guantanamero

I sing that song to my cats, only change the words a little to Wonton Tamale, my little Wonton Tamale. Only my chuncky cat gets One Ton Tamale.

[pangaia]

92. Eeiiii

Too much dude spell check is off. Busta arise was gifts news typically typos.

[peace13]

81. You are right, it's not!

So quit being untruthful about it!

[pangaia]

87. No, but you sure are.

[griffi94]

90. Ah so Bernie should be given a pass

If he's guily of chicanery he should face the consequences.

I didn't make him mishandle his donations.

[pangaia]

94. Chicory? What's that got to do with it?

[dchill]

73. Me too, pangaia, me too!

[Merryland]

86. good idea - I will too. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I hope The senator goes back to the senate and remains a tireless voice for the causes he espouses.

I really liked him before I became acquainted with his supporters. Some of the things he said has bothered me too but not as much as his supporters...

I remember driving a friend from L A to Fontana and staying in the car while the other passengers went into his house so I could finish listening to him on NPR. He was lambasting our real enemies-the Koch Bros.

[Codeine]

11. It's generally best to stay in the car in Fontana anyway.

Nothing good ever happens there.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I don't remember all that much about the trip.

I do remember the subdivision was more like a subdivision you would see in FL. All the homes looked more or less the same.

[wendylaroux]

17. same here,I really liked her before I became acquainted with her supporters.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. We are simpatico, I think.

[wendylaroux]

34. pretty much

[pangaia]

68. I met her once..just once. That was enough

[wendylaroux]

71. what was she like? did u talk to her?

[pangaia]

85. At a fund raiser for someone else

Spitzer and Bob Duffy, then mayor of Rochester NY were there...I think he was mayor ... we shock hands, had a few words, her eyes were blank, looked right through me as if I wasn't even there. It was almost chilling... I talked to Spitzer and Duffy they were both "there", they were attentive....

[pangaia]

101. What was that about his spouse?

[cherokeeprogressive]

127. You hung out by yourself in a car in Fontana? That's brave LOL.

[wendylaroux]

13. your funny!

[beedle]

14. Yes, if it found ...

... that Sanders or anyone on the campaign is sending in doctored FEC reports (instead of actual reports that the FEC examines and provides feedback as to what donations that either need to be returned or need more detailed information provided,) then they should be charged with whatever crime is appropriate.

But being charged for following reporting requirements, including the line items that need to be further addressed? That seems a bit excessive?

I'd be much more suspicious if someone was sending in FEC reports that never had any "mistakes" than ones that did ... the one with the mistakes you can have a bit more confidence that no one is going through the report hiding questionable donations ... the 'perfect' FEC filing makes one wonder how it got so 'perfect.

[griffi94]

23. Bernies campaign is being investigated

for campaign finance irregularities.

I always say where's there smoke there's fire.

Bernie should just come clean if he's been skimming funds.

[840high]

28. Well then you must say

where's there smoke there's a fire to Hillary and the FBI.

[griffi94]

43. This OP is about Bernie

and his criminal finance irregularities.

[passiveporcupine]

50. Link?

Provide a link to his being investigated, or stop this crap now.

[pangaia]

74. No..let him keep going

It is an historical post. A true classic.

[beedle]

56. He's being investigated?

Do tell ... you have a link to that little detail?

By who? For What?

[RufusTFirefly]

63. Are you sure it's an investigation? Perhaps it's just a "security review." n/t

[zappaman]

20. No, he's too old for jail.

I think it would be cruel.

[ucrdem]

21. He really needs to be less lax.

I'm very concerned.

[pangaia]

106. Are u saying Bernie needs a laxative?

[ucrdem]

123. Well

yes.

[Number23]

22. "Berine"

I'm sorry, but the typos of Bernie's name lately have been cracking me the hell up. I've seen Barnie more times than I can count lately but I think that "Berine" is now my favorite.

[MoonRiver]

27. lol!

Edit: I don't know anything about this issue. The post above just tickled me.

[griffi94]

29. Typo doesn excuse fraud and criminal intent

Prison may be best for Sanders at this point.
Given his history.

[passiveporcupine]

96. You are just trolling now,

and doing it badly.

Too many requests for links to back this up and not one from you yet.

[griffi94]

98. Google it

[passiveporcupine]

113. I did and everything I came up with were the old reports

Which should have been fixed by now. I don't see any new stories on this, so if you can't provide a link (dated for May 2016), you are trolling. Well, you are trolling anyway, but that was a given.

[Number23]

117. What a bizarre and embarrassing response.

[LonePirate]

24. Ugh!

[Matariki]

25. This is a hysterical response to the FBI investigation of Hillary Clinton

and I mean hysterical in the clinical definition of the word

[griffi94]

48. It looks like Bernie broke the law.

[griffi94]

26. Sorry but a typo doesn't excuse reckless criminal behavior

Bernie is not looking very good in this whole incident.

[840high]

30. Let me know when

Bernie goes to jail. I'll bake him a cake.

[bkkyosemite]

31. Unbelievable.

He has had millions of small donations. Totally off the wall statement. Bernie is old, Bernie is done put a fork in him...now Bernie go to jail...do not collect $200. Off the edge

[dchill]

32. If you had used a sarcasm tag...this OP would have had some merit.

However, FAIL.

[bkkyosemite]

33. eww Fail and Jail...about right what a disgusting OP.

[pangaia]

109. It's one of the funniest threads in the history of DU

[griffi94]

35. Sorry but I don't find FEC violation to be funny

Too bad Bernie got sucked into the game he's always rejected.

I'm just glad this is coming to light before
the final primaries.

He was on the verge of being out nominee.

[dchill]

70. There is NO CRIME here!

Any violation is on the part of the donors. The moneys will be refunded, (as many have been, all along) and no one will face charges. Seriously, look into it, then move along.

If it were me, I'd delete.

[griffi94]

76. Maybe. BUt he is being investigated.

[dchill]

82. No, Hillary is being investigated.

Bernie has been alerted. Multiple times. Again, look into it.

Oh, and I recced your thread.

[griffi94]

84. Thanks for the rec

I did look into it.
Bernie seems to be involved in some financial shenanigans.

What a let down.
I don't see how I can support him now.

[dchill]

91. Shenanigans=crimes?

As reported by... whom?

BlueNationReview?

[griffi94]

95. Shenanigans, chicanery

it's all criminal activity.

Why should Bernie be above the law.

[dchill]

110. You really need a better red straw herring man.

Like Bernie's a grifter or how he's committing fraud or how much his chartered planes are costing his donors or...

Seriously, bro.

[bobbobbins01]

39. This is stupid.

These donations issues happen with every campaign. EVERY one. I worked at the DNC back when Kerry was running for president and we got hit with these things on a regular basis. It isn't illegal unless it isn't corrected. Otherwise every single politician would be in jail. Quit spreading bullshit.

[Red Knight]

44. Bernie supporters I love you

But responding to this sort of post is a waste of time and feeds the ...well, ya know.

[griffi94]

52. But if he's involved in criminal behavior

I'm just saying.

[pangaia]

115. I disagree. I think it is hilarious.

In fact I think this just may be a new acct by "Thinkingabout." I always enjoy her/his posts, slso.

[Adrahil]

53. Welp....

I cannot wait for this primary to be over. I swear to Big Butter Jeebus.

[BillZBubb]

55. Should griffi go to ignore?

Why yes, I think that is in order!

[passiveporcupine]

104. This will be the first one I put on ignore without the yellow button

But yep, he's flat out trolling and refusing to come up with anything to verify his OP or his accusations

Plonk.

[Thinkingabout]

58. Since this is his second letter and now he wants to postpone his answer.

It is fraud

[griffi94]

72. It certainly seems that way

I don't think his privilage should save him
from the consequences of his actions.

[Smarmie Doofus]

75. Thanks. I'm SO in the mood for a LOL. nt

[cali]

97. The OP is insane and ugly

[griffi94]

102. Financial irregularities are what's ugly

And Bernie has a history of this.

[cali]

114. You should go to jail. I should go to jail. Everyone should go to jai.

Hilly should go to Guantanamo.

That, sir, is how ridiculous your claims are.

You have removed all doubt- not that I ever had any.

[sadoldgirl]

107. Okay, let's put Bernie and HRC into prison.

Then who is left?

Do you care much for Trump?

You kind of sound like him.

[QC]

116. +1

[vintx]

121. +1

[dchill]

128. You're partly right...

But no one in their right mind would pay him. Personally, I recced the thread. It needs exposure.

[passiveporcupine]

122. BTW Bernie peeps, I believe someone here is trying to lure us into hides.

My suggestion is everyone put him on ignore and not give him any more kicks to this thread.

[QC]

125. Should Brock pay for tedious, unimaginative trolling?

Shouldn't the rich assholes who fund him get better value for their money?

[CanadaexPat]

129. Yes - and free the prisoners locked up by the Clintons