2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Do Corporatists and Clinton Support Prisons For Profits?
The Prison corporations make big profits and they share them with their favorite politicians, like Hillary Clinton.
Prisoner labor is literally slave labor and what corporation can say no to that. Also, their products can be labeled "Made In America" (They should say "Made in America with Slave Labor."
The corporatists would prefer that no one could vote, but will settle for imprisoning a portion of our population that might vote against corporate domination.
Why bring Clinton into this discussion? The Prisons For Profits have been generous to her campaign. They appreciate the Clintons efforts to fill our prisons whereas Black Lives Matter feel the opposite,
Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.
Do you support Prisons For Profits with their prison labor (read slave labor).
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)I wish President Obama would declare the END of the war on drugs and commute all sentences related to drug use or purchase! A woman can dream ! And I do!
Baobab
(4,667 posts)hellhole and if half of them die its the corporations responsibility.. Also, by international services subcontracting we get more influence in trade negs. For example, if ten million indians are working here in IT, teaching nursing, etc, we would get more clout with them and we get special legal status we have to bargain for it with jobs- or trading concessions but currently, there is nothing they want more than Mode Four jobs- So once we have National Treatment/Most favored nation in that context, hyothetically perhaps we can buy or partner with Indian companies as if we were Indian.
You cannot compete with your partner, right.
So we could partner with a drug company that made generic drugs and then they would quietly discontinue all the ones we saw as being more profitable without competition.
getting rid of cheap generic drugs is really high on the Big Pharma wish list.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)or more, or pay the multinational prison firm compensation.
because of ISDS. thats how it works.
Unless we put carve outs in trade deals now to prevent it.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)I think she would like that.
I am certain she agrees that private prisons are good for America.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)It's an inconvenient truth to them. Or hell maybe some of 'em support it idfk.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Last edited Fri May 13, 2016, 02:43 PM - Edit history (1)
The "efficiencies" are things like employing fewer workers, paying workers lower wages, and cutting back on maintenance and other expenses. And the for profit prison companies have a few other tricks up their sleeve to pretend that they are more efficient. They write contracts that allow them to refuse to take on higher cost prisoners, in particular the ones who are older and/or have chronic health care problems that must be treated on an ongoing basis. And in order to keep their facilities full, the for profit prisons have a vile practice of hitting prisoners who are close to release with petty violations that allow the prison to keep them incarcerated and collecting revenue for some extra months until they have a new incoming prisoner to fill the cot.
CrispyQ
(36,437 posts)Excellent post.
I read they don't teach civics anymore, so young people aren't taught about The Commons.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)End the era of mass incarceration, reform mandatory minimum sentences, and end private prisons.
H2O Man
(73,524 posts)Private prisons have an investment in crime and incarceration.
reddread
(6,896 posts)so completely salient.
bottomless morals.
PDittie
(8,322 posts)The Congressional Black Caucus PAC takes contributions from the private prison industry.
https://newrepublic.com/article/130930/congressional-black-caucus-lost-conscience
The PAC, which has raised $2.7 million since 2010, gets its funding from the biggest firms in America, like telecoms AT&T and Comcast, payday lender Cash America, mega-banks JPMorgan Chase and Citigroup, minimum-wage foe the National Restaurant Association, and private-prison firm Corrections Corporation of America.
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/11/congressional-black-caucus-hillary/
Members of the CBC PAC board include Daron Watts, a lobbyist for Purdue Pharma, the maker of the highly addictive opioid OxyContin; Mike Mckay and Chaka Burgess, both lobbyists for Navient, the student loan giant that was spun off of Sallie Mae; former Rep. Albert Wynn, D-Md., a lobbyist who represents a range of clients, including work last year on behalf of Lorillard Tobacco, the maker of Newport cigarettes; and William A. Kirk, who lobbies for a cigar industry trade group on a range of tobacco regulations.
And a significant percentage of the $7,000 raised this cycle by the CBC PAC from individuals was donated by white lobbyists, including (former California Congressional Rep.) Vic Fazio, who represents Philip Morris and served for years as a lobbyist to Corrections Corporation of America, and David Adams, a former Clinton aide who now lobbies for Wal-Mart, the largest gun distributor in America.
http://www.cbcpac.org/leadership
I just don't see how we're going to clean all this shit up, y'all.
CrispyQ
(36,437 posts)I had not read any of that before.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Doesn't mean I won't fight, but The Powers That Be will convince the majority of the population to accept fascism before we can wrest control from them. Massive civil disobedience would be necessary and they are equipped for that. But we won't even get most of the population to support us if we did revolt. The Sen Sanders supporters get it, but the rest of the country are just ok with fascism.
BootinUp
(47,135 posts)Time for change
(13,714 posts)It is a disgrace that our prisons are so full of people, especially black people, who have committed minor offenses.
It is a disgrace that the prison industry is allowed to contribute to the campaigns of our highest government candidates in return for contributing to their immoral efforts to fill our prisons with more yet more prisoners.
I did not know that Hillery has accepted significant campaign money from the prison industry and I am not real familiar with her role in contributing to their goals. But if that was all that I knew about her, that alone would be enough to make me have very serious reservations against voting for her in the GE, even if she runs against Donald Trump.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I imagine that if you post this in the AfAm group, your responses may be more varied, insightful and nuanced than otherwise.
However, I'm rather confident you'll rationalize a creative reason as to why you shouldn't...