2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPredictive Markets now looking at Clinton's VP pick (Bernie makes the list!)
Clinton's VP:
Tim Kaine - 19%
Julian Castro - 18%
Elizabeth Warren - 16%
Bernie Sanders - 10%
http://predictwise.com/
On the Trump side, Newt is the clear favorite at 30%.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,676 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)I'd put my money on Castro.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)bill.
Hopefully, we can relieve her of the choice.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,676 posts)Castro will suit her better - he's at least a Latino corporate toady.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)match hers), but since Trump won the nomination, she is already performing at about her peak with Hispanic voters and, with or without Castro, Texas is not in play in 2016 regardless of who we nominate at the top.
The Clintons are highly focus grouped. They'll want someone who does not outshine her, someone who can raise funds, someone who is a centrist-to-right ideologically domestically and right of center on foreign policy, someone who helps in a swing state, someone who's nomination will not give a Republican governor a chance to flip a Democratic Senate seat red, and -- mostly -- someone who is uncontroversial to suburban soccer moms who generally vote Republican but might be put off by a Trump candidacy; someone like Tim Kaine, Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, Tim Roemer, Martin Heinrich, Michael Bennet. If she gets to pick the VP and goes outside the box, maybe even Brian Sandoval.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)The group she needs most is centrist independents. Count on the VP pick appealing to that demographic.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)probably pander to white suburban married women who usually vote Republican if we nominate her and she is choosing a VP (and white suburban married women who usually vote Republican like white centrist male candidates).
I presume that Hillary sees these as the Republicans who may be most likely to become dissatisfied with Trump as her biggest target. I think that's a mistake. I think she underestimates how disliked she is among Republicans (and so trying to pick them off is probably a fool's errand).
Instead, Hillary should address her enthusiasm gap. Hillary underestimates the lack of enthusiasm (if we nominate Hillary, the turn out model will look like a hybrid between a presidential election year turnout model and a non-presidential-cycle model). Democrats perform worst when turnout is lowest, and so Hillary would be best off picking a VP who will generate enthusiasm to bring our turnout model up closer to Obama levels. To do this, Hillary would need to pick a candidate who would excite the base. Elizabeth Warren would do this best. John Hickenlooper would be another good option (as a well liked progressive Democrat from a battleground state).
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)It would depend on what he brings to the ticket.
LexVegas
(6,059 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)http://www.ontheissues.org/OH/Sherrod_Brown.htm
Bernie-bots may not like him because he is a genuine Democrat and progressive. They can't argue with anything in his record. Except that he supports and has endorsed Hillary.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)You NEVER know. He has not ruled it out.
Kennedy and Johnson hated each other but Kennedy needed Texas.
He may feel he can keep a better eye on things from the white house.
Never say Never.
Bernie4VP
(2 posts)If Hillary is smart, Bernie should be at the top of her list (Isn't it pretty common for the 2nd place finisher to get the VP nod anyway?) If the Bernie crowd doesn't show up or votes for Trump she's not going to win, simple as that. She needs to at least offer it to Bernie first; It will move the ticket to the left, and make Bernie's supporters not feel like they're being marginalized.
FSogol
(45,480 posts)When has that happened in the last 50 years?
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)but I have no idea when this last happened with the Democrats.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)The few that aren't support it because they're assuming she'll be impeached (and if the GOP retain the Senate, convicted).
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)These odds are coming mostly from off shore betting markets.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Tim Kaine 18%
Elizabeth Warren 12%
Julian Castro 18%
Bernie Sanders 10%
Tom Perez 9%
Sherrod Brown 10%
Cory Booker 6%
Al Franken 4%
Deval Patrick 3%
Martin OMalley 2%
http://predictwise.com/blog/2016-president-democratic-vice-president-nomination
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)NO WAY! That would be funny. He should pick what's her face, the one Cruz picked. Or, I know, Governor Pat "Bathroom Cop" McCrory He will be out of a job after November, anyway. Or if he really wants to go old school, he could pick Dan "Potatoe" Quayle.