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Predictive Markets now looking at Clinton's VP pick (Bernie makes the list!) (Original Post) Godhumor May 2016 OP
Tim Kaine?? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #1
Largely because the media has said he might be picked Godhumor May 2016 #2
It will be a centrist while male who won't outshine her from a battleground state. Kaine fits that Attorney in Texas May 2016 #5
I don't think she'd pick a white guy. At least not a sap like Kaine. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #6
If Rubio or Cruz had won the nomination, Hillary might have considered Castro (his centrist views Attorney in Texas May 2016 #8
Exactly: Trump handed her the Latino vote...so no need to pander to them. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #20
It is sad that Hillary would approach the issue that way, but she would. I agree that she would Attorney in Texas May 2016 #22
He also speaks fluent Spanish and comes from a battleground State with a Democratic Governor brooklynite May 2016 #7
Sheered Brown would insure Ohio? Jitter65 May 2016 #11
But Kasich would pick his replacement. Plus, he's far too progressive for Hillary Attorney in Texas May 2016 #12
No on BS, period Iliyah May 2016 #3
Would you refuse to vote for Hillary if she picked Bernie? bullwinkle428 May 2016 #13
Maybe. Buzz cook May 2016 #27
No to Kaine. Hell no to Sanders. nt LexVegas May 2016 #4
I still like Sherrod Brown. A real progressive without the nasty tone. Jitter65 May 2016 #9
Yup! JaneyVee May 2016 #10
Yup! DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #14
Everybody likes Sherrod Brown but John Kasich would pick his replacement in the Senate Attorney in Texas May 2016 #16
Bernie Sanders would be wasted as VP. He would never, ever accept. nt. polly7 May 2016 #15
Polly MFM008 May 2016 #26
Vegas can say what it likes Bernie4VP May 2016 #17
No: "Isn't it pretty common for the 2nd place finisher to get the VP nod anyway?" FSogol May 2016 #18
Great question. It happened in 1980 with the Republicans, Nye Bevan May 2016 #23
Most Bernie supporters I know are aghast at the very idea. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #21
Might as well get this in. You can't vote on elections at Vegas. It's against the law. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #24
My original two predictions are in the bottom half. NurseJackie May 2016 #19
Newt Gingrich? wildeyed May 2016 #25

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
5. It will be a centrist while male who won't outshine her from a battleground state. Kaine fits that
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

bill.

Hopefully, we can relieve her of the choice.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,676 posts)
6. I don't think she'd pick a white guy. At least not a sap like Kaine.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

Castro will suit her better - he's at least a Latino corporate toady.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
8. If Rubio or Cruz had won the nomination, Hillary might have considered Castro (his centrist views
Fri May 13, 2016, 12:13 PM
May 2016

match hers), but since Trump won the nomination, she is already performing at about her peak with Hispanic voters and, with or without Castro, Texas is not in play in 2016 regardless of who we nominate at the top.

The Clintons are highly focus grouped. They'll want someone who does not outshine her, someone who can raise funds, someone who is a centrist-to-right ideologically domestically and right of center on foreign policy, someone who helps in a swing state, someone who's nomination will not give a Republican governor a chance to flip a Democratic Senate seat red, and -- mostly -- someone who is uncontroversial to suburban soccer moms who generally vote Republican but might be put off by a Trump candidacy; someone like Tim Kaine, Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, Tim Roemer, Martin Heinrich, Michael Bennet. If she gets to pick the VP and goes outside the box, maybe even Brian Sandoval.



 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
20. Exactly: Trump handed her the Latino vote...so no need to pander to them.
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:52 PM
May 2016

The group she needs most is centrist independents. Count on the VP pick appealing to that demographic.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
22. It is sad that Hillary would approach the issue that way, but she would. I agree that she would
Fri May 13, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

probably pander to white suburban married women who usually vote Republican if we nominate her and she is choosing a VP (and white suburban married women who usually vote Republican like white centrist male candidates).

I presume that Hillary sees these as the Republicans who may be most likely to become dissatisfied with Trump as her biggest target. I think that's a mistake. I think she underestimates how disliked she is among Republicans (and so trying to pick them off is probably a fool's errand).

Instead, Hillary should address her enthusiasm gap. Hillary underestimates the lack of enthusiasm (if we nominate Hillary, the turn out model will look like a hybrid between a presidential election year turnout model and a non-presidential-cycle model). Democrats perform worst when turnout is lowest, and so Hillary would be best off picking a VP who will generate enthusiasm to bring our turnout model up closer to Obama levels. To do this, Hillary would need to pick a candidate who would excite the base. Elizabeth Warren would do this best. John Hickenlooper would be another good option (as a well liked progressive Democrat from a battleground state).

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
9. I still like Sherrod Brown. A real progressive without the nasty tone.
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016
https://www.brown.senate.gov/biography

http://www.ontheissues.org/OH/Sherrod_Brown.htm

Bernie-bots may not like him because he is a genuine Democrat and progressive. They can't argue with anything in his record. Except that he supports and has endorsed Hillary.

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
26. Polly
Fri May 13, 2016, 06:33 PM
May 2016

You NEVER know. He has not ruled it out.
Kennedy and Johnson hated each other but Kennedy needed Texas.
He may feel he can keep a better eye on things from the white house.
Never say Never.

Bernie4VP

(2 posts)
17. Vegas can say what it likes
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

If Hillary is smart, Bernie should be at the top of her list (Isn't it pretty common for the 2nd place finisher to get the VP nod anyway?) If the Bernie crowd doesn't show up or votes for Trump she's not going to win, simple as that. She needs to at least offer it to Bernie first; It will move the ticket to the left, and make Bernie's supporters not feel like they're being marginalized.

FSogol

(45,480 posts)
18. No: "Isn't it pretty common for the 2nd place finisher to get the VP nod anyway?"
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

When has that happened in the last 50 years?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
23. Great question. It happened in 1980 with the Republicans,
Fri May 13, 2016, 05:38 PM
May 2016

but I have no idea when this last happened with the Democrats.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
21. Most Bernie supporters I know are aghast at the very idea.
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

The few that aren't support it because they're assuming she'll be impeached (and if the GOP retain the Senate, convicted).

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. Might as well get this in. You can't vote on elections at Vegas. It's against the law.
Fri May 13, 2016, 05:48 PM
May 2016

These odds are coming mostly from off shore betting markets.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. My original two predictions are in the bottom half.
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:49 PM
May 2016

Tim Kaine 18%
Elizabeth Warren 12%
Julian Castro 18%
Bernie Sanders 10%
Tom Perez 9%
Sherrod Brown 10%
Cory Booker 6%
Al Franken 4%
Deval Patrick 3%
Martin OMalley 2%

http://predictwise.com/blog/2016-president-democratic-vice-president-nomination

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
25. Newt Gingrich?
Fri May 13, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

NO WAY! That would be funny. He should pick what's her face, the one Cruz picked. Or, I know, Governor Pat "Bathroom Cop" McCrory He will be out of a job after November, anyway. Or if he really wants to go old school, he could pick Dan "Potatoe" Quayle.

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