I'm going to ask this here instead of in the Bernie group because...

[Binkie The Clown]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by mcar (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

I'm looking for responses from Hillary folks:

Why are there so many posts in the Hillary group addressed toward and asking questions of the Bernie supporters when you know in advance that Bernie supporters cannot answer your questions or address your issues in the Hillary group because they've all been banned from that group?

It's very obvious that you are NOT addressing Bernie supporters, and you are NOT asking Bernie supporters for answers. The only conclusion I can come to is that you don't want answers to your questions, you just want to parade those questions around as if merely asking them is some kind of victory.

[JaneyVee]

1. Why is this posted in GDP?

This is for primaries. And you dont even provide links? What a mess.

[Binkie The Clown]

7. Bernie Vs. Hillary is primaries stuff.

Links to what?

You didn't answer any of my questions, you just used this as an opportunity to insult me.

Why am I not surprised?

[puffy socks]

9. So many of Sanders supporters need an echo chamber.

They alert and hide whenever any fact is pointed out that they can't just whine and "win" .

I just got a post hidden for using an obvious exaggeration and they all broke out in faux outrage because Bernie has an investigation at the same time as Hillary's but only she should drop out over the investigation and they can't explain why Bernie is given the usual free pass.

Bernie lost. They can't handle losing.

[hobbit709]

14. Bernie Group 362 blocks, Camp Bansalot 877 blocks. Which one is the echo chamber exactly?

[Sheepshank]

18. which camp has no sense of boundaries..and a huge sense of entitlement?

That would be group that decides on a daily basis, that it's ok to go into the Hillary group, insult Hillary and her supporters.

[morningfog]

15. Been here less than a month and have it all figured out, huh?

[puffy socks]

21. Actually

I had joined DU way back in 2003. But when I got my new computer I started reading other sites and eventually forgot my username and password.


I've read here for quite awhile. But even if that wasn't the case, it doesn't take long to figure out what's going on.


Its happening on ever Liberal site.The Bernie fanatics aren't even original. They're just more of the status quo ..which is ironically very funny!

I read Mother Jones also and the Alternet, but don't post. I was a commenter on Raw Story for 7 years until RS started kicking off multiple supporters from both sides ... so I avoided the site. I read Crooks and Liars for a while until they quit posting interesting articles trying to control the conversation and cater to the folks that can't stand any sort of confrontational conversations. Apparently Bernie's supporters cried and whined every day to moderators about being picked on while of course laying it on in thick layers themselves. So I left before I'd be the next thrown off for posting facts to the Bernie supporters....and now here I am and we have people here who foolishly believe it takes months to figure out what the blabbiest members on a political forum are about

[morningfog]

22. What was/were your previous DU screename(s)?

[puffy socks]

30. If I would have remembered that I wouldn't have signed up as a new member a month ago.

[morningfog]

31. Uh huh.

[floriduck]

2. That's the whole point of doing it.

This is their way of writing things trying to piss us off when we can't reply. It's a child's game they like to play.

[msongs]

3. for the same reason all that same thing is done in the sanders group?

[ViseGrip]

4. See who is responding here? I see them.....the culprits.

[Lizzie Poppet]

10. Not all of them, no. =P

My Ignore list isn't as long as that of people banned from Camp Weathervane Central...but I bet it's close.

[Lizzie Poppet]

12. Also: IBTL (for being "meta")

[morningfog]

5. The use the protected group as a sword instead of as a shield.

Bad form, nasty habit they have.

[bjo59]

6. Absolutely. It's completely disingenuous.

I watched a fantastic video of Bernie asking questions and listening at a packed Pine Ridge reservation town hall meeting yesterday night. It is mind blowing to behold actual participatory democracy in action as it is nearly extinct in the USA today. That meeting really threw those Barca-lounger warrior type posts into relief. They're complete and utter nonsense. Flame on pseudo-question posters. What a waste of your energies. Let's hear something about all those wonderful policies of Hillary Clinton's that have won your staunch support!

[Binkie The Clown]

11. Her policies?

I wish I knew what they were, so that I could make a rational choice. But since only Bernie seems to be explaining policies, he ends up being my choice by default. If Hillary were better, I'd support her. But I don't know if Hillary is better because I don't know what she stands for beyond "It's my turn" and "The FBI's got nuthin' on me."

[Buzz cook]

19. You are strangely incurious.

There's this thing called google which can magically take you to the policy pronouncements of any candidate.

For someone who starts a thread about questions you seem to be unable to answer them for yourself.

[brooklynite]

8. I don't participate in the Hillary group so I don't know.

I've never seen the point of having "protected" groups.

[CoffeeCat]

13. I trashed the Hillary group long, long ago

I was banned from that group. I posted a response, not fully understanding that I was in the Hillary Group.

I don't blame them for banning me. The person who booted me out was very kind about it.

However, why would anyone want to see posts from a group to which you cannot reply?

Why even look at those posts?

[TheCowsCameHome]

23. Same here -

Of course after they booted me they continued trashing me for the rest of the evening.

It was like as warm of Cha cadas

[CoffeeCat]

25. That's sorority girl bullshit.

No thanks.

Love and kindness, indeed.

[CountAllVotes]

29. Same here

Problem is I do not know why I was banned. I didn't realize it was THE Hillary Clinton Group. Shame on me for not knowing nor giving a shyte!

[JI7]

16. lol

[Buzz cook]

17. Rhetorical questions are still questions

But I just have to point out that not all Sanders supporters have been banned from the Hillary group. So a Sanders supporter could i theory answer any of those questions.

In practice that rarely happens because the temptation to be combative is too strong for most people.

But back to my header, most of those questions are rhetorical. That is a legitimate conversational form, something you ignore.

Of course some of those questions are looking for bias confirmation. That's something we see on any exclusive forum. But you knew that as well. Or at least I;m guessing you're intelligent enough to know that.

So back at you. Why did you ask the question?

[TheCowsCameHome]

20. I don't understand it, either.

Ask a question when you don't want to hear the answer.




Here's a perfect example:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107132239

[LexVegas]

24. ...

[juxtaposed]

26. It looks good when the hrc group gets no answers from bernie supporters!! There are no Bernie

Supporters that can post in hrc forum. It's a fringing echo chamber ...

[scscholar]

27. This

The bans here are ridiculous. I have several diehard Hillary supporters as friends that post here, and all have been banned from the Hillary group for not being rabid enough.

[CountAllVotes]

28. Yes you've got that right

Of course why bother to post in that group is you aren't wanted? It must be lonely in there talking to yourself all of the time!