FEC Violations!

[bobbobbins01]

Since Hillary is close to indictment there seems to be a new focus on Bernie's FEC violations to try to paint him as some kind of criminal as well. As pretty much everyone knows, FEC violations are common, and all campaigns get them, so of course this attack is stupid and baseless. But just to show how stupid it really is...here is a loooooong list of Hillary Clinton's FEC violations:

http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/442/201508020300001442/201508020300001442.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/530/201511100300007530/201511100300007530.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/526/201602180300035526/201602180300035526.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/037/201603020300039037/201603020300039037.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/608/10030300608/10030300608.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/811/10030353811/10030353811.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/278/29030182278/29030182278.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/330/29030144330/29030144330.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/333/29030144333/29030144333.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/679/28039874679/28039874679.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/944/28039872944/28039872944.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/934/28039814934/28039814934.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/926/28039814926/28039814926.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/942/28039814942/28039814942.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/917/28039814917/28039814917.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/950/28039814950/28039814950.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/004/28039800004/28039800004.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/007/28039800007/28039800007.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/038/28039762038/28039762038.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/783/28039740783/28039740783.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/679/28039740679/28039740679.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/578/28039740578/28039740578.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/117/28039662117/28039662117.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/291/28039590291/28039590291.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/053/27039533053/27039533053.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/332/27039531332/27039531332.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/153/11330011153/11330011153.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/681/20035693681/20035693681.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/855/20035880855/20035880855.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/580/20036493580/20036493580.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/899/20036700899/20036700899.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/723/21036921723/21036921723.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/728/21036921728/21036921728.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/956/21036962956/21036962956.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/224/22037683224/22037683224.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/481/22037520481/22037520481.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/667/22037472667/22037472667.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/966/23038163966/23038163966.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/224/22037683224/22037683224.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/481/22037520481/22037520481.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/667/22037472667/22037472667.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/966/23038163966/23038163966.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/699/27039434699/27039434699.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/639/26039190639/26039190639.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/461/26039101461/26039101461.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/690/26039023690/26039023690.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/665/25038830665/25038830665.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/881/29030050881/29030050881.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/622/29030171622/29030171622.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/153/11330011153/11330011153.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/321/13330039321/13330039321.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/696/23038181696/23038181696.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/831/22037470831/22037470831.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/581/21037320581/21037320581.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/568/21037300568/21037300568.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/199/21037291199/21037291199.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/968/21036861968/21036861968.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/695/21036743695/21036743695.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/202/21036734202/21036734202.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/691/20036710691/20036710691.pdf

[Jackie Wilson Said]

1. Why are remarks like "close to indictment" tolerated here?

[bobbobbins01]

2. Because they're accurate remarks.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

3. NO, it is a right wing talking point. I know why you are here, but why the people who run

this place dont, I dont understand.

Please, we dont want Trump as president, please go elsewhere with that desire.

[bobbobbins01]

4. Its not a right wing talking point.

The FBI is investigating her. The right didn't make that up. Please take your misinformation elsewhere. If you didn't want Trump as president, maybe you shouldn't have backed the candidate about to get indicted. Sheesh.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

6. Clost to indictment is indeed a right wing talking point. We know who wants what, trust me

[bobbobbins01]

9. If she's guilty, I want an indictment.

If she's innocent, I don't. Its simple.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

15. You want an indictment period.

[bobbobbins01]

21. No, I believe in justice.

I'll admit, it doesn't look good for her, but if she is innocent of course I want her to go free. To even suggest that I'd want an innocent person to go to prison to further my ideology shows you know nothing about my ideology at all.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

23. bullshit

[bobbobbins01]

24. Classy.

Keep up the good work.

[WhiteTara]

30. The last I read, she is not a target of the investigation

has that changed? Please provide a link it that is so. Thanks.

[bobbobbins01]

33. It is her server.

If she isn't the target, who is? Her IT person already has immunity, that doesn't leave room for many other people.

[840high]

73. Whee - you're a mind reader?

[azurnoir]

17. why do you pretend this is a zero sum game, when it is nothing of the sort?

o accuse anyone who is against Hillary of wanting Trump is IMO rather weak nothing is as of yet written in stone

and one other thing about your sig line

Good thing we didnt have Bernie or Bust types in the 60's or we might very well still be fighting in Vietnam

I suggest you open a history book or better yet Google when and how Vietnam ended-yoou might be in for a surprise or IOW who was POTUS in 1973?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

19. OH I know when it ended and why. Someone around here was trying to pretend the anti war effort

had nothing to do with it, was that you?

[azurnoir]

20. Nope however Bernie or Bust has no relationship here

[Jackie Wilson Said]

22. It has everything to do with it, if anti war folks gave up because they didnt get their way

[azurnoir]

55. But things did go their way Bernie or Bust is not about giving up

[Fawke Em]

54. I know who wants it, too.

Every one else who holds a security clearance who doesn't act recklessly like she did.

[840high]

74. +10

[LisaM]

31. The right initiated this!

Judicial Watch is a very conservative group and they've been the instigator of this.

I've actually seen Judicial Watch material linked her at DU, which is maddening. They exist for no other reason than to file lawsuits against (mostly) Democratic targets.

[bobbobbins01]

34. Its an FBI investigation.

They don't investigate talking points.

[2cannan]

69. Actually, CREW was one of the first groups to file a FOIA request for her emails.

But after David Brock took CREW over, they decide not to pursue the issue.

snip

Shortly After March 2, 2015: The main government watchdog trying to get Clinton's emails is silenced by a Clinton ally. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) had been pursuing the public release of all of Clinton's emails. CREW has been one of the top political watchdog organizations, targeting unethical and corrupt behavior in both major political parties. But in August 2014, CREW was effectively taken over by David Brock, a close Clinton ally who runs the main Super PAC (political action committee) for her presidential campaign. In December 2012, CREW filed the first Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request seeking Clinton's emails from when she was secretary of state, and that began a long legal battle over the issue. However, after Clinton's email scandal becomes public following a New York Times story on it on March 2, 2015, the new CREW leadership decides not to pursue the issue. Anne Weismann, CREW's chief counsel who led the search for the emails, will later comment, "It was made quite clear to me that CREW and I would not be commenting publicly on the issue of Secretary Clinton using a personal email account to conduct agency business. The fact that we said nothing on that subject says volumes." Weismann soon quits CREW as a result. Others also quit. Louis Mayberg, a cofounder of CREW, quits in March 2015, saying, "I have no desire to serve on a board of an organization devoted to partisanship." He also says that CREW's lack of action regarding the email scandal is another key factor in his departure. (Bloomberg News, 4/11/2016)

Clinton Email Scandal Timeline.
http://thompsontimeline.com/The_Clinton_Email_Scandal_-_Long_Version_-_Part_4

[emsimon33]

59. First, facts are NOT "right wing talking points."

Second, many in the Democratic Party are horrified and disgusted at the manipulations of the DNC and State parties, the Rovian tactics of both and the Clinton campaign, and the focus on compromise and neo-liberalism that has overtaken the party since Clinton #1 introduced the Third Way. We no longer will be frightened into voting or supporting one candidate or another. Problems of ethics and legality are piling up for Hillary and it would be better to have them out and dealt with now than when she is the nominee ... if she is the nominee.

[puffy socks]

11. They are pure speculation from hopeful Sanders supporters. nt

No , its not just common, and should not just be waved off.

Bernie is not responding and he is still doing this...therefore he is either breaking the law willfully or he is as incompetent as they come or both.


"Bernie Sanders likes to sell himself as the panacea of campaign finance reforms. He rails all day against the horrific Citizens United decision of the Supreme Court"





"It turns out, however, he may just be protesting a little too much. In February, the Federal Election Commission sent the Sanders campaign two letters breaking down the campaign's possible illegal and foreign contributions. Both letters - one addressing the campaign's quarterly report for the quarter ending in December and another addressing the campaign's January report point out two overriding themes in Sanders' campaign finance trouble besides for the fact that they don't seem to be able to add (in both letters, FEC noted the Sanders' campaign's problem balancing the ledger): illegal over-contributions and donations from foreign addresses not properly accounted for to confirm their US citizenship.

Bernie's campaign line has been to dismiss these concerns. So many people are donating to us, they say, it's mighty hard to keep the books straight on all of them.

But as the deadline for the Sanders campaign to respond to its first FEC notice ...

Right now, there are nearly 700 contributions from people who, for all the FEC knows, could be foreign nationals. And the FEC continues to find new problems with every report.


Through the end of December alone, the Sanders campaign had collected more than $23 million in donations without sourcing them or certifying that those came from donors whose aggregate total giving is below $200.


For someone so interested about campaign - and even non-campaign - contributions to other candidates, the American people deserve to know where Sanders' money is coming from. And no, Bernie's signature, dismissive diatribe of "our money comes from people giving $27" is just not cutting it anymore.

This is not Bernie Sanders' first federal campaign. He's been in elected federal office for 25 years.
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/3/14/bernie-sanders-potentially-illegal-campaign-contributions

[lagomorph777]

14. Fair enough; let's get some hit pieces on Hillary's long list of violations into the media

It'll be a welcome distraction from the e-mail unpleasantness.

[morningfog]

16. People's view, lol. An old banned du troll runs that lame ass blog.

[puffy socks]

27. Oh sure.

Yeah and what blog would that be?

You people just make stuff up as you go along...and it is a riot!

[morningfog]

29. Uh, the non credible shit site you linked to.

[bobbobbins01]

18. If its not common...why does Hillary have even more violations?

Care to explain?

[puffy socks]

25. Let me know when Hillary refuses to reply and continues on

as though nothing has been said. How " common" is that?


Why is Sanders avoiding the FEC? Why hasn't he complied?
oh yeah I know #freepassforbernie.

[bobbobbins01]

26. Did you look at the documents?

Several of them state just that, Hillary didn't reply. Any more goalposts you want to move?

[puffy socks]

36. Then why isnt the FEC investigating hillary?

Talkk about moving goal posts!

They are investigating Bernie even if you don't want to admit it. and he KEEPS on doing taking money from foreign sources and keeps mis-recording it . The previous op ed said anyone under investigation shouldnt run...now that it's Bernie you all want to change the name iof what's happening to him and pretend it's all okay ..all while professing to be against corrupt campaign finance! hypocrites to the hilt.


but like I said freepass for Bernie. always..on his war votes . his wall street votes, his gun votes, his drug war vote, his campaign breaking into the DNC computers, his wife taking of money from the Texas commission , lying about releasing his tax returns when he only released a summary..and sTILL hiding them.
Lying about being endorsed by newspapers, Bernie can do no wrong! he is perfect in every way. I bet he has a six pack under that suit to an Adonis like body! Its just so ridiculous!



Oh and btw....Bernie lost the nomination.

[bobbobbins01]

38. You realize the FEC isn't investigating anyone right?

You can throw little laughs around, but its clear you don't know what you're talking about. He received a notice, just like all the ones Hillary has received, that is all.

I'm going to just assume you're being purposefully dense.

[puffy socks]

44. Just as much as the FBI is investigatimng Hillary.

"Since October of 2015 to the end of January, the FEC counted a total of 665 potentially illegal foreign donations to the Sanders campaign, and hundreds of donors who have exceeded their contribution limits. The FEC noted more foreign contributions in just the month of January than in the previous three months combined, and has flagged over 3,500 contributions as over-limit. Through the end of December alone, the Sanders campaign had collected more than $23 million in donations without sourcing them or certifying that those came from donors whose aggregate total giving is below $200.

Yes Sweetie, this is what an investigation is.

I also love hoiw you completely skip right over the total hypocrisy of any FEC filings against Sanders what-so-ever...but I know

#freepassforBernie

[bobbobbins01]

45. No Sweetie, that isn't an investigation.

You are wrong. You know you are wrong.

[puffy socks]

48. I'm right.

and you just want it to go away because your hero isn't pure as snow.

oh look!

Bernie Sanders Campaign Now Being Investigated FOR ILLEGAL CONTRIBUTIONS
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/bernie-sanders-campaign-now-being-investigated-for-illegal-contributions/


Oh yeah! it's not a Bernie fan club site. Well, How about the dictionary?

in·ves·ti·ga·tion
inˌvestəˈɡāSH(ə n/
noun
noun: investigation the action of investigating something or someone; formal or systematic examination or research.
"he is under investigation for receiving illicit funds"


Please continue your little rant

[bobbobbins01]

49. So the gateway pundit says it, and it must be true?

You realize that Hillary got the exact same letter this election cycle in regards to her FEC filings, right? But fine, Bernie is under investigation for FEC violations, that just means Hillary is under investigation by both the FBI and the FEC.

[puffy socks]

56. So then Bernie cant run. all I wanted was an admission

that he IS breaking the law , and it is an investigation...and that applying the same logic he shouldn't be running. Sanders supporters constant waving off his negatives is ridiculous.

You all have a double standard for your candidate. I know you will continue to post this lame crap in an attempt to exonerate him regardless of any wrong doing.

He lost. He's not going to be president , get used to it.

Posting that Hillary is "close to indictment" is a total lie and you know it. You want it badly, and n one of you give a damn whether there's any truth to it or not, that kind of desperation and the actions taken speak volumes about Sander's supporters, none of it good.

[bobbobbins01]

61. She is close to an indictment

She's closer than I'd ever want a democratic nominee to be. I have no double standard. FEC notices do not lead to indictments. FBI investigations do. We're done here, you are shilling.

[puffy socks]

65. There's no evidence any indictment is near.

stop lying. It's supposed to be beneath you.

[bobbobbins01]

67. The investigation itself is evidence.

Giving her IT guy immunity is evidence. Guccifer being extradited is evidence. Her staff being interviewed is evidence. How much weight you want to give each piece of evidence is debatable, but there is plenty of evidence.

[puffy socks]

68. How ridiculous!

you don't seem to understand what evidence is.


All one has to do is have an investigation and bam you're a criminal and anything remotely related is "evidence"of a crime? really? Like the IRS scandal ?or how about Benghazi!, Planned Parenthood?



oh look
Sanders is a criminal!


The vice chair of the Vermont GOP, Brady Toensing, sent out a letter to the U.S. attorney in January regarding the fraud accusations, which originate from Sanders’ time as president of Burlington College between 2004 and 2011. As she approached the end of her tenure, she secured loans for a $10 million purchase of 32 acres from the Roman Catholic diocese that was to be utilized as part of a campus expansion project.
Sanders claimed that Burlington College had over $2 million in fundraising commitments and pledges, which helped to secure a tax-exempt extended loan by the People’s United Bank for $6.7 million. In addition to that, the diocese reportedly underwrote a $3.7 million loan. This gave its debt repayment lower priority than the bank’s, according to the report.

The ambitious fundraising pledges didn’t come close to the amount Sanders claimed. One local report wrote that the college raised just $279,000 in fiscal 2011. As a result, the diocese didn’t receive the full repayment of the loan and lost $1.6 million to $2 million, according to the investigation papers.

[Hare Krishna]

77. Oohh.. Toensing again?

I suggest you look up Victoria Toensing for shits and giggles.

[puffy socks]

46. Hes i looked through over half of them now ...and none of them say she didnt respoind..

care to pint out which links are the ones to those letters that say she failed to respond?

[bobbobbins01]

47. Here is one of many...

http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/831/22037470831/22037470831.pdf

You must not be looking very hard.

[puffy socks]

50. I didnt want to spend all day looking for the few letters

2002?

got anything from this election season?
She apparently responded ..she's not in prison/ Why hasn't Bernie responded?
why does he continue to resist? thousands upon thousands..but of course you donbt cafre.

thats hypocritical and hyet fully expected.

[bobbobbins01]

51. They don't send thank you letters after the campaign responds.

Please show proof Bernie didn't respond.

[Fawke Em]

58. Try finding a source for that info that isn't from a pro-Hillary propaganda website.

Thanks.

[Demsrule86]

37. Not at all accurate

And such remarks won't be tolerated much longer thankfully.

[Fawke Em]

63. It'll be fun watching your rears wriggle while your heads are in the sand.

[basselope]

57. Truth?

[Logical]

70. Prove it is not true. nt

[Jackie Wilson Said]

71. Is there a democrat running this board?????????????????

WHY are you ALLOWING right wing memes, straight from fox here?

[840high]

75. Why did Hillary put us

in this position?

[djean111]

5. Thanks! I knew that these kinds of violations were common and easily corrected.

Evidently, for Hillary, they don't count at all, but for Bernie, they are heinous. Typical sludge from HRC's campaign and supporters.

Oh, you may get alerted on - reporting on anything that does not praise Hillary is now considered a Right Wing Smear.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

7. Saying she is close to indictment is a right wing bullshit talking point and EVERYONE who uses

it or agrees with it belongs on right wing sources, not here.

[bobbobbins01]

10. She's closer than I am to an indictment...

because I'm not under investigation.

[lagomorph777]

13. Wow, now the e-mail disaster is used as a DISTRACTION from Hillary's other weaknesses

There's a winning strategy.

[bobbobbins01]

8. Oh I know it.

I welcome their alerts!

[pugetres]

76. Clinton allowed her issues to get to the point of an audit:

http://www.fec.gov/audits/Hillary_Clinton_for_President/AuditDivisionRecommendationMemorandum1173026.pdf

I'm getting tired of their silly little attempts to smear Sanders when it took her years to get her crap straightened out.

[bobbobbins01]

78. Damn, good find.

Her campaign said they there were "three minor database errors" that caused the mistake. Sounds familiar.

[Joob]

12. K & R

[frylock]

28. My goodness!

Kick?

[WhiteTara]

32. This goes back 16 years

I don't think that Bernie's multi year FEC letters are that old. His multiple letters are from this year. Hillary's last letter (according to your post is from 2015)

[bobbobbins01]

35. Exactly...it shows a history!

She's a repeat offender!

[WhiteTara]

60. Let's look at Bernie's history

while we are at it.

[bobbobbins01]

62. Ok...go for it.

I created an OP for her history, go ahead and do one for his.

[WhiteTara]

66. You're so good at it

I wouldn't know where to begin, but I appreciate your information.

[NCTraveler]

39. Which one of those are you claiming to look like what Sanders just received?

Additionally: Four individual users, twenty-five searches, eleven states, information downloaded.

I just read the first two links and it's not even close.

[bobbobbins01]

41. Take your pick, there are 60 of them.

Additionally: indictment, losing to trump in the polls, static noise machines, hidden transcripts.

[NCTraveler]

43. Have fun with the indictment talk.

You won't point out a link because you can't. I think you expect people to not take the time to look into what you are doing here. It's flat out deception. I do understand why you feel the need to do it. Goes hand in hand with the indictment talk.

[bobbobbins01]

64. No, I encourage everyone to read each one

Because she committed many more violations than Bernie, so I think they'd all love to know the details.

The only one being deceitful is you. EVERYONE PLEASE READ EVERY DOCUMENT.

[annavictorious]

40. These are not FEC violations; They're notices that further document ion needed to be provided

or revisions and amendments needed to be filed.

Hopefully Sanders will be able to explain 60 pages filled with lists of foreign donors.

[bobbobbins01]

42. Same document Sanders received.

Feel free to compare and contrast.

[Fawke Em]

52. Hillary supporters:

Great list!!!

[emsimon33]

53. K&R

[pdsimdars]

72. Waht's Good for the Goose . . . . . .

[mhatrw]

79. BUT, BUT, Clinton never DENIED that she is wholly corrupt!

So only Sanders minor violations matter!

You can't hold Clinton to the same standard.