Dem Officials Keep Sanders Delegates Off Convention Standing Committees! Only 3 on list of 75!

[imagine2015]

POLITICO

Sanders crashes into Democratic Party wall
The Vermont senator's camp seethes over real and perceived slights from the party establishment.
By Daniel Strauss
05/13/16

After piling up millions of votes and wins in 19 states, Bernie Sanders and his supporters are beginning to lay out their expectations for the Democratic National Convention — and they’re expressing deep frustration with what they see as a wall of party resistance.

Both the Hillary Clinton and Sanders campaigns had submitted names for consideration on the convention's standing committees, but in January when Wasserman Schultz handed down her final list of 75 nominations — all of whom were approved by the DNC's Executive Committee — nearly all of Sanders' choices had been disregarded.

The Vermont senator had provided the DNC with 45 names — a diverse list that included Sanders supporters ranging from Congressmen Raul Grijalva and Keith Ellison to former Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower, a leading progressive populist. Wasserman Schultz picked just three of the 45.

Months of negotiations with the DNC failed to add any additional Sanders supporters on the standing committees, leading Sanders to go public with his grievance last week.

To the Sanders camp, Wasserman Schultz’s selections for committee chairmen rubbed salt in the wound. Among the committee co-chairs she named were two sharp-elbowed Clinton partisans known for their harsh criticism of the Vermont senator: Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy and former Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank.

“It's sort of like coded language, dog-whistle politics. You only hear the language if it's directed at you,” said Maine state Rep. Diane Russell, a Sanders supporter who pushed an amendment at the Maine Democratic Party convention Saturday that would make delegates and super delegates align their support in proportion to the state's caucus results. “I think when you saw when the committees were laid out there was no real way to say the DNC was actively shutting out this group of people, supporting this other candidate until you really saw the construction of the committees and I think that brought it to life.”

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The following is the letter Bernie Sanders sent to Debbie Wasserman Schultz protesting the exclusion of Sanders delegates from convention standing committees.

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May 6, 2016
Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Democratic National Committee
430 South Capitol Street Southeast
Washington, DC 20003

Dear Chairwoman Wasserman Schultz:

I am writing to follow up on our discussion about the composition of the standing committees of
the Democratic National Convention. In order to reflect the views and aspirations of the millions
who support both my candidacy and Secretary Clinton’s, I believe that the composition of the
standing committees must reflect the relative support that has been received by both
campaigns.

That was why I was so disappointed to learn that of the over forty people our campaign submitted
at your request you chose to select only three of my recommendations for the three standing
committees. Moreover, you did not assign even one of the people submitted by our campaign to
the very important Rules Committee of the Democratic National Convention.

If we are to have a unified party in the fall, no matter who wins the nomination, we cannot have a
Democratic National Convention in which the views of millions of people who participated in the
Democratic nominating process are unrepresented in the committee membership appointed by
you, the Chair. That sends the very real message that the Democratic Party is not open to the
millions of new people that our campaign has brought into the political process, does not want to
hear new voices, and is unwilling to respect the broader base of people that this party needs to
win over in November and beyond. Fairness, inclusion and transparency should be the standard
under which we operate.

In our conversation, you told me with respect to the platform drafting Committee that you would
consider allowing each campaign to submit ten names from which you would choose four from
each and then you would add an additional seven. While having four members on the Drafting
Committee is an improvement, it does not address the fact that up to this point Bernie 2016 has
secured some 45% of the pledged delegates awarded. Frankly, we believe that percentage will go
up in the coming weeks and, of course, we hope it will end up being a majority.

I believe that each campaign should chose seven members to serve on the Drafting Committee.
The fifteenth member would be a chair who would be jointly picked by the two campaigns. This
process will ensure that all the standing committees reflect the full range of views of voters who
have participated in the Democratic nominating contests.

This process will also ensure that the chairs of the standing committees conduct their
proceedings with fairness and transparency. As it stands now, the chairs of the Rules Committee
and the Platform Committee are active supporters of Secretary Clinton’s campaign. But even
more than that, they both are aggressive attack surrogates on the campaign trail. I do not, and the
millions who have supported our campaign will not, have any confidence that either of them will
conduct committee proceeding in an even-handed manner. In fact, the suggestion that they
would be appropriate chairs in and of itself suggests the standing committees are being
established in an overtly partisan way meant to exclude the input of the voters who have
supported my candidacy.

As you know, there are already over 9 million voters who, during this nominating process, have
indicated that they want to go beyond establishment politics and establishment economics - and
want to transform our country with bold initiatives. I will not allow them be silenced at the
Democratic National Convention.

It is my hope we can quickly resolve this in a fair way. If the process is set up to produce an unfair,
one-sided result, we are prepared to mobilize our delegates to force as many votes as necessary
to amend the platform and rules on the floor of the convention.

Thank you in advance for your help in establishing standing committees that are fair and
inclusive. I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,
Senator Bernie Sanders

http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000154-86bf-da04-a3ff-9ebfd97e0000

[Gomez163]

1. ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS HUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

[hobbit709]

5. Is that your best shot? Repeating yourself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1956752
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1956752

[Gomez163]

7. ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS HUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

[imagine2015]

10. I dare you to post that again!

Let's see if Gomez163 bites.

LOL

[Gomez163]

12. You're no fun anymore

[imagine2015]

13. Thanks for the kick! LOL

[roguevalley]

63. then 10,000 berners will show up. They will be there. Count on it. Fuck this shit.

[puffy socks]

64. Lol!

[fun n serious]

49. This is custom.

The person with most votes and delegates always gets FULL control of the convention. The question is... Why should it be different for Bernie?

[panader0]

55. So 3 out of 75 is fair to you?

[fun n serious]

56. The presumtive nominee IS NOT SANDERS

He is lucky he got 3

[panader0]

59. He'll have over 20 states won by the convention.

20 out of 50 is two fifths (stay with me here). So out of 75 he should have 30, not 3.
Thanks DWS you oily sycophant and UN-Democratic loser.

[senz]

118. Who knows? Maybe it will backfire on your candidate

in a most unfortunate way.

[scscholar]

85. It is tradition

If he had been in the party long enough, he would understand that.

[JimDandy]

116. I like Obama's tradition. Hmmm... I thought Clinton was supposed to carry on his legacy?

For Immediate Release
July 8, 2008

Contact: Stacie Paxton

Listening to America: The Democratic Platform for Change

Democratic National Committee, Obama for America Unveil New Initiative to Involve American People in the Democratic Platform Process

WASHINGTON, DC--Today the Democratic National Committee and Obama for America unveiled a bold new initiative to involve the American people in the development of the Democratic National Platform. This year, for the first time, voters will have the opportunity to take part in Platform Meetings in all 50 states to help shape the Democratic Platform. DNC Chairman Howard also announced that Governor Napolitano will chair the Platform Drafting Committee. Michael Yaki will serve as National Platform Director and Karen Kornbluh will be the Principal Author of the Platform.

Members of the public will be invited to host and attend Platform Meetings in their communities as an opportunity to exchange ideas and share perspectives on the challenges we face. To facilitate the process, the Obama campaign and the DNC will send policy experts and DNC Platform Committee members to as many meetings as possible to serve as facilitators. Each Platform Meeting will produce a written summary that will be reviewed and considered by the Platform Committee.

"From the beginning, we said we were going bring down the traditional walls of the Democratic Convention and make this event more accessible and include as many people as possible," said Democratic National Committee Chair Howard Dean. "This process will empower Americans in all 50 states to make their voices heard as they help write the document that embodies our Party's values and vision for the future. Barack Obama will bring real change to Washington, and as we write the Democratic Platform, there will be a clear choice between more of the same failed policies of the Bush Administration with John McCain or real change with Barack Obama who will make the American people, not the special interests, the priority again."

"Barack Obama believes that every American should be able to contribute to the Democratic Platform, just as record numbers have participated in this campaign," said Steve Hildebrand of Obama for America. "It's not the lawmakers in Washington who live the day-to-day reality of our policies--it's workers, teachers, parents and first responders--everyday Americans who just want to the best for their families. What better way than to incorporate their voices into the process than to have them help shape the Democratic Platform, the statement of our ideals, values, and proposal for change."

Registration is available at http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/listening/ , starting today through July 15th. The Platform Meetings will occur across the country from July 19th through July 27th.

A National Hearing will take place August 1st in Cleveland, Ohio, where presentations will be made before the Platform Drafting Committee. The Committee will then meet separately August 2nd and 3rd to draft the Democratic Platform. The Platform Drafting Committee is responsible for preparing an initial draft of the Platform, which is used as a working document by the Platform Committee at its meeting.

Also named as members to serve on the Platform Drafting Committee are: U.S. Representative Tammy Baldwin; State Representative Dan Blue of North Carolina; Maryland Lt. Governor Anthony Brown; Columbus Mayor Michael Coleman; U.S. Representative Rosa DeLauro; DNC Secretary Alice Germond; Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm; Donna Harris-Aiken, a National Education Association Policy Advisor; Platform Policy Advisor Heather Higginbottom; Platform Policy Advisor Chris Jennings; Florida Tallahassee Commissioner Alan Katz; AFL-CIO Policy Director Thea Lee; UFCW Local 1428 President Connie Leyva; U.S. Representative Patrick Murphy; Speaker Emeritus of the California State Assembly Fabian Nunez; Obama for America Foreign Policy Advisor Susan Rice; U.S. Representative Linda Sanchez; Youth Representative Giancarlo Sopa of Florida; Ron His Horse is Thunder, Chairman of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe of North Dakota.

The full Platform Committee will meet and recommend adoption of the platform August 9th in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, former New Mexico Attorney General Patricia Madrid, and former Discovery Communications President and CEO Judith McHale serve as Chairs of the full Platform Committee. At the Platform Committee meeting, members discuss each plank of a draft platform. They have the opportunity to submit new proposed planks, or amendments to the draft. Proposals and amendments must be approved by a majority of the members present and voting.

Meetings of the Drafting Committee and full Committee are open to the public and press. Details will be announced at a later date.

Michael Yaki will serve as National Platform Director. A lawyer in private practice, Yaki is a former senior aide to Speaker Pelosi from 1989-1996 and worked on the 1992 Democratic Platform. He also served as a member of the Board of Supervisors in San Francisco, CA from 1996-2001 and has served as a Commissioner on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights from 2005 to the present.

Karen Kornbluh will be the Principal Author of the Platform, while on leave from Senator Obama's Senate office where she serves as Policy Director. Previously, Kornbluh directed the New America Foundation's Work and Family Program, where she published articles in the Atlantic Monthly, New York Times and Washington Post calling for new policies to support families in the global economy. Kornbluh served as Deputy Chief of Staff at the US Treasury Department and Director of Legislative Affairs at the Federal Communications Commission.

https://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/chrnconv08/dnc070808pr.html

Obama included ALL of America in the Democratic Platform development process for the 2008 Dem Convention. Clinton and DWS can't even include more than 3 people who aren't Clinton supporters. LOL...unity, schmunity.

[imagine2015]

88. 3 out of 75 is not custom, tradition, nor fair. Can those claims be proven with a credible link?

So if a candidate gets 45% or more the elected convention delegate the DNC who gives that candidate only 3 of the 75 committee assignments and the other candidate get 72 or the 75.

And that is called a democratic convention and is the tradition of Democratic Party DNC members since at least 2004.

Those who make those claims are required to prove their assertions.

And if proven true will some convention delegates move to rename the party, the Undemocratic Party to reflect that political reality?

[beedle]

108. Wasn't "custom" in 2008

For example, the 2008 "Rules and Bylaws Committee" membership consisted of:

Co-Chairs - no endorsement
Alexis Herman (co-chair, Washington , D.C. )
James Roosevelt, Jr. (co-chair, Massachusetts )

Members - Clinton supporters (13)
Hartina Flournay (DC)
Donald Fowler (SC)
Harold Ickes, Jr. (DC)
Jaime Gonzalez, Jr. (TX)
Alice Huffman (CA)
Ben Johnson (DC)
Elaine Kamarck (MA)
Eric Kleinfeld (DC)
Mona Pasquil (CA)
Mame Reiley (VA)
Garry Shay (CA)
Elizabeth Smith (DC)
Michael Steed (MD)

Members - Obama supporters (8)
Martha Fuller Clark (NH)
Carol Khare Fowler (SC)
Janice Griffin (MD)
Thomas Hynes (IL)
Allan Katz (FL)
Sharon Stroschein (SD)
Sarah Swisher (IA)
Everett Ward (NC)

Members - no known endorsement (7)
Donna Brazille (DC)
Mark Brewer (MI)
Ralph Dawson (NY)
Yvonne Gates ( NV)
Alice Germond (DC) - DNC Secretary
David McDonald (WA)
Jerome Wiley Segovia (VA)

http://demconwatch.blogspot.ca/2008/04/rules-and-bylaws-committee-membership.html

Do Hillary supports care at all about facts?


Oh, wait!!! I Get it .. you mean it's always been the 'custom' the Hillary be given all the advantages no matter what!! Yes, now it starts to make sense.

[larkrake]

113. We definately need to Occupy the convention

and take names and dig up their skeletons, expose every heavy handed person attending

[Octafish]

120. That poster reminds me of someone who's banned or on probie.

MORONKA? Something like that. Can't remember the handle. Wrote a lot like the "OperationMindCrime" time waster.

[hobbit709]

122. There's more than 1 newbie that I suspect of being a reincarnation of Posting Privileges Revoked

The styles re pretty similar but some people no longer get banned if they have 3 hidden posts within a week of joining.

[imagine2015]

8. So you think that is fair and democratic?

[Demsrule86]

9. and and and

serial...hahahah

[pmorlan1]

101. No, This is Rigged

Any honest person recognizes that this is rigged and totally unfair. I've seen several DU Clinton supporters, to their credit, advocate that the positions on the committee's should be divided proportionally.

[pmorlan1]

107. Our Convention

reveals how corrupt our Party has become. In addition to rigging the positions on the various committee's there is this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280194201

[imagine2015]

2. So this is how the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz plan to achieve party unity against Trump?

[Maedhros]

3. That's why they don't have my support anymore.

Nakedly corrupt. Obviously not working for what's best for the country. Ignore huge swaths of their base.

[fun n serious]

52. This is normal and has always been this way

The person with most votes and delegates always gets FULL control of the convention. The question is... Why should it be different for Bernie?

[beedle]

109. 2008 Rules and bylaws committee

Co-Chairs - no endorsement
Alexis Herman (co-chair, Washington , D.C. )
James Roosevelt, Jr. (co-chair, Massachusetts )

Members - Clinton supporters (13)
Hartina Flournay (DC)
Donald Fowler (SC)
Harold Ickes, Jr. (DC)
Jaime Gonzalez, Jr. (TX)
Alice Huffman (CA)
Ben Johnson (DC)
Elaine Kamarck (MA)
Eric Kleinfeld (DC)
Mona Pasquil (CA)
Mame Reiley (VA)
Garry Shay (CA)
Elizabeth Smith (DC)
Michael Steed (MD)

Members - Obama supporters (8)
Martha Fuller Clark (NH)
Carol Khare Fowler (SC)
Janice Griffin (MD)
Thomas Hynes (IL)
Allan Katz (FL)
Sharon Stroschein (SD)
Sarah Swisher (IA)
Everett Ward (NC)

Members - no known endorsement (7)
Donna Brazille (DC)
Mark Brewer (MI)
Ralph Dawson (NY)
Yvonne Gates ( NV)
Alice Germond (DC) - DNC Secretary
David McDonald (WA)
Jerome Wiley Segovia (VA)

http://demconwatch.blogspot.ca/2008/04/rules-and-bylaws-committee-membership.html

[Sheepshank]

115. No,the reason there is no,party unity is that at every turn

Bernie and his supporters deliberately ignore the rules of the political gamesmanship and when they are losing, whine, smear, swarm, bully, insult, scream about voter fraud, voter suppression and other voter shananigans, Super Delegate shenanigans, mis counting votes, and now one more item when its clear to everyone that the candidates for the convention were nominated in JANUARY. BS campaign filed the complaint 5/6/16. Why cant BS campaign get their shit together at the time their so, called infraction is happening? Most likley because it's manufactured just for another delay and change the rules tactic.

[riderinthestorm]

4. No surprise. The Clintons are notoriously vindictive. They have no intention of cooperation.

Bernie knows this. There's no reason to try to make nice. The Clintons are sending out every signal that he and his ideas are going to be utterly squashed.

[imagine2015]

6. They are far tougher on progressives than they are with the right and their financial benefactors.

With the right, Wall Street and big corporations they are accommodating and eager to please.

[dreamnightwind]

22. Yep

[Optimism]

24. Damn straight!

They're just making it harder and harder for Bernie NOT to run as an Independent if or when the Superdelegates throw this to Clinton (or to Biden for that matter).

[jwirr]

28. With their hands held out under the table.

[Demsrule86]

11. He is squashing his own chances

by refusing to recognize he lost and risking the general...had he conceded, I have no doubt Bernie people would be on committees but he is supposedly putting his name in nomination...waste of time...the supers must hate him more than I do! So they sure as hell will not give him the means to make mischief and cause more trouble.

[riderinthestorm]

14. Lol, you're naive. As soon as Bernie became a real challenge he was marked

Nobody's under any illusion here @ his career going forward. The DNC (Team Clinton) were signalling months ago after his Michigan win that Bernie wouldn't even get a speaking slot at the convention.

The PTB have made no bones that they hate his ideas. They would never have considered any of them (still won't imo) if he hadn't managed to pull off this fucking miracle.

He has nothing to lose. There's no cushy big pharma lobbying gig to pay him off with (cough*Howard Dean*cough). Bernie isn't interested in that shit. I'm guessing after this experience running a national campaign he probably understands that the Senate is too small for him now anyway. He's an Al Gore or a Jimmy Carter and would do better taking this movement and growing it on a larger stage.

He needs to keep his ideas out there for as long as he can, reaching as many people as he can now.

[Demsrule86]

16. They don't hate his ideas

neither do I...they hate him for risking the general...and behaving in such a tacky way.

[riderinthestorm]

19. He's not risking the GE and we both know that.

His ideas are toxic to the DNC and the Clintons - of course they hate him. He won't shut up @ income inequality or the right to health care or the corruption by Big $$ in Congress or climate change or how broken our education system is etc etc etc.

That's not tacky, its determination to reach as many people as possible while he can because its damned sure the PTB are doing everything they can to shut him down from Day 1 of his candidacy long before he ever got this close to the convention.

[Demsrule86]

68. All the polls have gone down Dems vs Trump

so clearly he is and we both know it.

[riderinthestorm]

114. Hillary's polls have gone down v Trump. Honestly I'm not sure what you mean here

Hillary's a deeply flawed candidate. The sooner you recognize that the better.

Look, I want a Dem to win in November. I'll vote Hillary because I'm in a purple state but your deliberately blind devotion to Hillary is crazy.

Crazy.

[Optimism]

25. It's certainly NOT Bernie that's risking the general...

He happens to be the most likely to WIN the general in virtually every poll.

The superdelegates installing Hillary are what's risking the general.

[Nonhlanhla]

51. The superdelegates are not installing Hillary

Hillary will end the race with the majority of the pledged delegates - i.e., delegates that are the result of voting. The superdelegates will follow the will of the voters.

The only one who wants to be installed by the superdelegates is Bernie.

[imagine2015]

93. A candidate needs to win more than a simple majority of elected delegates for the nomination.

You didn't know that?

[Nonhlanhla]

104. The superdelegates usually follow the will of the people

I.e., they support the person with the most pledged delegates. You did not know that?

[Demsrule86]

70. He lost and now needs to condede and endorse...

Be a gracious loser and help defeat Trump...if he can't do that then he deserves what he gets.... I would not give him anything he could use against Democrats.

[Demsrule86]

71. Hillary won

If they gave the primary to Bernie...he would be installed by the super..his campaign mouthpieces admitted that he can't win the delegates.

[pangaia]

17. That is a very clear statement of the present state of affairs.

Thank you for it....

I do not understand why so many people who support Clinton do not see the stunning difference between Bernie Sanders and just about every other politician I have come across...

[Demsrule86]

53. What about Obama?

He had even slimmer odds than Bernie but he won. As for nothing to lose...I would say electing Tump is a loss...if Bernie means anything he says...he would not want the revolution to end when Trump picks five conservative judges...it is over then. We shall see if Bernie means what he says or he just has an ego the size of Texas.

[riderinthestorm]

62. That's just completely factually incorrect

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008

Hillary leveraged her delegates into the SOS job. Any primary candidate going into the primary with as strong a delegate count as Bernie would normally be in a tremendously powerful position as was Hillary in 2008.

Instead he's getting treated like dog shit by the DNC and Team Clinton ever since he won Michigan.

He knows what's ahead. I'm actually glad the DNC is being so blatant in their viciousness. It makes his path much clearer- stay in and keep winning more people over to his message.

[Demsrule86]

72. I don't buy that

Obama could have done as he pleased...she was not going to risk a McCain victory ...because she understands the terrible effects of electing the evil GOP.

[riderinthestorm]

79. Obama could NOT have done as he pleased. Clinton enemies list remember?

Sorry but you keep ignoring their well documented history of vicious retaliation.

Bill Clinton was already deeply ingratiated with the Bush family by then and was a heavyweight on Wall St. Obama wasn't stupid. He knew he had to appease them or slit his own political future before it even got started. A high powered deal was struck.

Bernie gets no such respect. Instead he gets vicious shit like you dish out even though Hillary stayed in as long if not longer.

How many posts/day here alone calling for Bernie to be stripped of his Senate seniority, or that he gets nothing at the convention, or he's just a grifter (incredibly anti-semitic)?

Yeah, best path by far is Bernie stays in til the convention, keep gathering delegates and supporters. The Clintons and the DNC wrote this ending with their shameful treatment of his candidacy.

[Demsrule86]

84. Oh I see

You are ging to use right wing lies in your post to me...a Democrat...tell me all about how people died...oh noes....who crossed the Clintons...sorry you believe your own propaganda.

[riderinthestorm]

89. Lol, I've been a Dem for 40 years. No illusions anymore...nt

[LiberalFighter]

91. It was a lot closer in 2008. Not like it is now.

[imagine2015]

15. So you think Hillary can beat Trump without independents and Bernie supporters?

Not in your life and she still has not captured the nomination and won't with elected (pledged) delegates.

Hillary is willing to forfeit the general election to Trump due to her personal ego .... if she captures the nomination that is.

[Demsrule86]

18. She will

All she has to do is be ahead in June when the primaries are over and despite Bernie's GOP buddies voting in our primary...she will do so. Then the supers make their decision knows before the primary as they did in 08. He can go to the primary I suppose if wants to but it looks really bad for him if he does so.

[wendylaroux]

32. It's like the clinton gang are trying to not get the presidency?

like confused trolls.

"Let's piss as many people off as we can" that should work!

[Demsrule86]

73. Well we know Bernie can't win the GE

He can't even win a primary. So we have to do the heavy lifting and keep Trump who is completely unqualified and dangerous out of the White House.

[Demsrule86]

48. I think she can beat him

As for Bernie supporters...that is their choice. I think some (not saying you; I think you are a true believer) are Trump people and have no intention of voting for Bernie.

[Justice]

27. Totally agree

[Demsrule86]

47. Thanks!

[1939]

29. Hey, if Sanders comes into the convention with, say, 45% of the votes

He ought to have 45% representation on the standing committees. At least in a just world. Sure, Hillary wins on the first ballot, but his supporters deserve to have his name put into nomination, be seconded several times, and have a floor demonstration. He deserves representation on platform, credentials, and rules committees in proportion to his delegate strength.

[Demsrule86]

46. He gets nothing

He should have conceded and endorsed. Why give him the means to attack Hillary and the party further...screwel him. He is only helping Trump.

[LiberalFighter]

94. He will have representation on the committees that the states allocate.

Presidential Preference:
1. The members of the standing committees allocated to the states and territories shall proportionately represent the presidential preference of all candidates (including uncommitted status) receiving the threshold percentage used in that state’s delegation to calculate the at-large apportionment pursuant to Rule 13.E. of the Delegate Selection Rules, provided, however, that members of the standing committees from primary states shall be allocated to presidential candidates (including uncommitted status) based on the statewide popular vote.

Platform Committee:
5. The National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee, in consultation with the Chair(s) of the Platform Committee, shall appoint fifteen (15) persons to serve on a Platform Drafting Subcommittee and the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee shall appoint the Chair(s) thereof. In addition, one (1) non-voting member may be appointed by each presidential candidate to serve on the Drafting Subcommittee. The Platform Drafting Subcommittee is considered a subcommittee of the Platform Committee as defined in Article I.A.6 provided, however, that members of the Platform Drafting Subcommittee need not be members of the Platform Committee. The Drafting Subcommittee shall be responsible for the drafting of the report of the Platform Committee under the direction and with the approval of the full Platform Committee.

Rules Committee:
There is no allocation as provided in the Platform Drafting Subcommittee

Credentials Committee and Procedures for Challenging Delegates or State Delegations:
There is no allocation as provided in the Platform Drafting Subcommittee

So in effect, DWS does not have to do what Sanders wants to have done. Sanders is already represented from each state based on primary results.

[bkkyosemite]

35. Bull shit these kinds of comments are just bull shit. He is running for President in a

Primary.

[Demsrule86]

45. Not any more

He lost and by not conceding and endorsing he looks bad...why would the Dems give him anything after he stabbed them in the back. I can see now why he is not popular in the Senate.

[bkkyosemite]

83. He did not lose ....it's isn't over 86.

[Demsrule86]

87. It is over he has no path

He can't win enough delegates...and the super won't overturn the will of the voters.

[bkkyosemite]

100. It's over when he says it's over!

[Demsrule86]

125. It doesn't work that way

He is done...and honestly makes himself look foolish.

[anotherproletariat]

20. Sounds about right, he has never even been close to leading the primary race.

Why should he have any say? (Not to mention that he just joined the party less than a year ago.)

[bkkyosemite]

36. He is a Democrat he is running for President. He will go to the convention and

whether he wins or not millions voted for him as democrats...insulting that the DNC is so corrupt.

[anotherproletariat]

38. Yes, but the nominee of the party should have the most control over the platform.

My bet is that she will let Bernie have a lot of input, if he leaves the race in a manner that doesn't hurt party unity.

How many of those votes do you think were from actual registered Democrats? I'm honestly asking, because it seems that most of the states he has won were open primaries where a large percentage of Independents voted for him.

[bkkyosemite]

81. A hell of a lot of them were from registered dems including me!

He is not ruining the unity..if it is ruined it's her fault not his.

[imagine2015]

96. How do you think the election can be won without winning a large percentage of independents?

Guess ya'll don't need Bernie supporters either. Drive everybody away who doesn't trust Hillary. Just registered Democrats who backed Hillary in the primaries are needed in the general election.

That should do it!

[Demsrule86]

74. Not allowing the loser to screw you, your party and your chances in the GE

is not corrupt it is absolutely needed. Too bad Sander can't stop tripping over his ego and concede and endorse.

[bkkyosemite]

82. He's not screwing anyone. She has been screwing him through her cohorts in her

campaign all along.

[Demsrule86]

86. Wrong

She beat him- as in got more votes, and his attempt to steal the nomination based on questionable polls is pathetic. He shows no respect for those that voted for her. He has lost ...now concede and endorse. In O8, she lost by 69 votes...and Florida and Michigan were not seated and she won the popular vote...she still conceded and endorsed graciously. Sanders lost by all measures...and the supers will most likely laugh their butts off when he shows them his cherry-picked polls.

[reformist2]

21. Really nasty stuff. Do they want the Bernie delegation to walk out of the convention?

[jwirr]

31. Floor fight - floor fight. I hope that someone in the MSM

covers all of this. And old fashion Democratic Convention. No coronation.

[HuckleB]

33. Covers what?

[jwirr]

34. The issues that are voted for on the floor and disagreements.

In the 50s MSM would be out there on the floor and talking with various delegates and all things that were going on. I remember Eleanor Roosevelt as a delegate from NY. I also remember a floor fight over which delegation from Georgia was going to be able to be seated - the white delegation or the black delegation.

Today what we see in both parties is a one night choreographed show with speakers and movies and entertainment. Back then there was also some of this but the behind the scenes business was also on during the day.

[Demsrule86]

92. Oh you must mean...old fashioned fun

Like the year, McGovern lost and the year when Carter lost...fun times. I am sure Nixon and Reagan...were so worth all the fun...and just think in 2000 the fun primary came back to haunt us when Reagan's nominee Sandra Day O'Connor was the deciding vote and SCOTUS selected George Bush as president..08 was so fun...losing my job and barely keeping my house...but of course, that fun pales in comparison to the fun that Trump would unleash. So much fun and all because some loser politicians cared more for their selfish selves and nothing for the poor folks who had to live with the outcomes their 'fun' primaries created.

[Demsrule86]

75. The Bernie delegation plans that already.

We all know it...as soon she is nominated...out they go...with their 'protest' because they lost ...I say bar the door.

[imagine2015]

98. It's starting to look like it.

[Tarc]

23. Funny what happens when you're not actually a member of the party, eh?

[JonLeibowitz]

26. More lies from Hillary supporters. Bernie is a member of the Democratic party.

[1939]

30. That attitude will work great when November comes around

and you need those votes in the general.

[bkkyosemite]

37. pathetic

[hellofromreddit]

65. He represents millions who are.

But I suppose this is another political party where some are more equal than others?

[Tarc]

66. Nope. All members are equal

Keyword; members.

[hellofromreddit]

67. Bernie's a member but you reject him. He's "too new."

Where do you draw your magic line?

[Tarc]

69. I shall coin a new term for you; MINO (Member In Name Only)

He sure does write it that way when it needs to be official, but in all other facts of his candidacy, rarely if ever refers to himself as "a Democrat".

[hellofromreddit]

111. Alright. What about all the people Bernie represents? You're insulting them too.

You're trying to attack Sanders, but you're rally just attacking new Democrats.

That's stupid.

[frylock]

99. What are the requirements to be a member?

What was it that you did to become a Democrat?

[DCBob]

39. If Bernie would negotiate to drop out now he would likely get alot more of what he wants.

If he continues to bash and trash our nominee then he might not even get a seat in the back of the room.

[AgingAmerican]

41. If the DNC / Hillary people want to be that petty

But it will cost the Democrats the general election if they do something so stupid

[DCBob]

42. Its just my opinion... I dont know what the DNC would actually do..

but I think Bernie has an opportunity to get alot of what he wants now..but I am not so sure he will have that same opportunity down the road if the continues his slash and burn tactics.

[AgingAmerican]

43. The way Debbie / Hillary have acted in the past

I would not be at all surprised if they did something so stupid

[Skwmom]

44. The DNC wants to bully Bernie. If he folds, it will just embolden them to be a bigger bully.

[imagine2015]

102. Exactly. Don't baby a bully. Don't beg them to be nice. Don't give in. They don't respect that.

[senz]

119. Bernie does not use "slash and burn" tactics. Just another lie.

Bernie's letter is reasonable and honorable but he is dealing with a dishonorable organization -- which is what today's DNC has become, alas.

If DWS is going to thumb her nose at all the Democrats who either have or will vote for Bernie, then perhaps she won't want us in the GE, either? One wonders...

[imagine2015]

60. Sanders "might not even get a seat in the back of the room." Bernie's reaction would be fuck them!

He's doesn't make deals and cave in to big business and Wall Street.

And if he can't be intimidated by right-wing racist blowhards like Trump what makes you think politicians posing as liberals scare him?

If Hillary captures the nomination she can't win the general election without the support of Bernie supporters and millions of independents who are looking for honest representation.

And if you really think she can win without us that means you really are out of touch with the mainstream of American people, especially the youth and working class.

.

[riderinthestorm]

103. Lol, you're so naive. Bernie was denigrated by the DNC as soon as he filed

The Clintons are notoriously vindictive. The DNC and the Clintons said he'd be shut out of the convention after he dared to win Michigan.

He knows what's ahead. The Clinton machine is already saying he should be stripped of his Senate seniority and committee positions. He cant be bought off by a lucrative Big Pharma lobbying gig (cough*Howard Dean*cough). The die was cast as soon as he gave Hillary a real run.

The PTB hate his ideas. They'll never concede anything to him.

His best hope is to stay and fight for his message for as long as he can.

[pmorlan1]

110. If the DNC wants our support in November

They will have to negotiate with US at the convention. We reject their initial offer!

[AgingAmerican]

40. It's as if they can't bleed out support fast enough

[Cheese Sandwich]

50. Bernie was naive if he was expecting fair treatment from the Democratic Party

[Demsrule86]

77. What has he done to deserve to be treated with kid gloves

He has trashed the nominee...Hillary and the party. He has hurt our chances in the GE as well.

[Sheepshank]

54. Committee nominations handed down on January, and they are pissing about it in May

Can't the Bernie campaign ever do anything in a more timely manner, except at the last minute and after the wheels are already in motion and rules determined?

[silvershadow]

58. K&R. nt.

[Renew Deal]

61. I don't want to hear about Bernie Sanders problems

[Demsrule86]

78. I don't want to hear Bernie moan

I just don't...hahah

[cherokeeprogressive]

76. POS.

[dana_b]

80. MOS

Mounds of...

They expect us to support THIS?! Not happening.

[Joe the Revelator]

90. Ironically....Dem officials are also going to keep me from voting Dem this cycle.

Funny, that.

[frylock]

95. They'll look like damn fools when the FBI issues their recommendation to indict.

[Uncle Joe]

97. I do fervently hope with every fiber of my being that Schultz loses her primary.

I can't find any redeeming qualities with DWS, she is anathema to democracy.


Thanks for the thread, imagine2015.

[pmorlan1]

106. She won't even debate her opponent

Check out his video

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=370248

Donate to her opponent.

[chervilant]

105. Bernie is far more diplomatic

with DWS than I would be. She is disgusting beyond words.

#NotMeUs

#DropOutHillary

[pmorlan1]

112. This is what democracy looks like

If the DNC wants our support in November

They will have to negotiate with us at the convention. They are now on notice that

We reject their initial offer!

[senz]

117. DWS must think Hillary cannot win on a level playing field.

Apparently Hillary has so little likeability and competence and so much personal and professional baggage, that the only way she can "win" is to have everything stacked in her favor. It has to be completely lopsided to make sure she "wins."

This distorted version of the DNC cannot even afford to have the principles and issues that made Bernie Sanders such a formidable opponent in less than a year -- the very principles and issues that Hillary has been openly and shamelessly copying -- written into the Democratic platform. Perhaps these new "Democrats" understand that the only people who care about these issues are THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES. And in this dirty version of our once good Democratic Party, the people do not count at all.

I cannot understand how her followers could possibly take pleasure in this. Anyone with a modicum of decency and fair play would feel shame and embarrassment over it.

[JoePhilly]

121. We've moved into the Bargining phase.

[JEB]

123. The Democratic Party is not democratic.

Who could have known?

[imagine2015]

124. Time to organize planes, trains, buses and cars for a mass convention demonstration in Philly?

Hillary and her corporate/Wall Street benefactors won't approve.

[NewImproved Deal]

126. What can you do about it?

[link:|

[nolabels]

127. Kicking this thread is.........

strange, but this is why i came here in the first place 14 years ago. To see the real dope on who is pulling the cards, just plain ugly it is

Let me whistle past the graveyard with name of Democratic Party in mind