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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:37 PM May 2016

WSJ: Clinton... will give Bernie Sanders much of what he wants on the party’s platform

Looking to avoid a messy Democratic convention this summer, people close to likely nominee Hillary Clinton predict she will give Bernie Sanders much of what he wants on the party’s platform. But at least for now, the Sanders forces are itching for a fight.

Already, Mr. Sanders has accused the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee of stacking convention committees in favor of Mrs. Clinton and has threatened a floor fight if he isn’t treated fairly.

“This convention should be a real debating place about what the party is and what it should stand for,” said Larry Cohen, a Sanders adviser and retired labor leader.

Mrs. Clinton says Mr. Sanders has “every right” to continue competing until the last votes are cast, but she has made clear that she expects unity to follow, as it did following her 2008 defeat. “We’re going to unify the party, and we’re going to have a great convention,” she said last week on MSNBC.

Hilary Rosen, a Democratic consultant who is close to the Clinton campaign, predicted that the campaign would have an “open mind” on these issues and “a commitment to progressive values.”

Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon also suggested that her campaign isn’t looking for a fight. “Hillary Clinton is proud of the progressive ideas she put forward in this campaign, and we expect the platform will reflect those ideas,” he said. “She has also made clear that there is much more that unites Democrats than divides us.”

More:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-looks-to-avoid-convention-fight-as-sanders-presses-agenda-1463178735

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Sounds like Hillary is offering a peace pipe to Bernie. The question is will he accept it?
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WSJ: Clinton... will give Bernie Sanders much of what he wants on the party’s platform (Original Post) DCBob May 2016 OP
Wall St Journal says that people "predict"... arcane1 May 2016 #1
If Bernie ignores this offer he may not get another opportunity. DCBob May 2016 #3
Well now that is a telling statement. Speaks to the honesty and libdem4life May 2016 #5
And right now it's just a "prediction" arcane1 May 2016 #8
If he continues to trash and bash her... DCBob May 2016 #10
Simple. She doesn't tell the truth. I don't believe her for one minute. libdem4life May 2016 #16
I dont believe anything you say either.. so there. DCBob May 2016 #26
Another rousing adult comment. Thing is, I didn't ask you to believe it. libdem4life May 2016 #27
So you do like me?? DCBob May 2016 #31
Um, I don't know you. That was the point. It's discussion...not emotion. libdem4life May 2016 #32
I like discussion. DCBob May 2016 #33
Are you one of those alleged progressives fun n serious May 2016 #43
The offer first has to be proven to exist n/t arcane1 May 2016 #6
He shouldn't get this oportunity in the first place... scscholar May 2016 #29
Can I vote first? beltanefauve May 2016 #47
The question is: will his supporters accept it? n/t JimDandy May 2016 #2
Indeed.. that is the bigger question. DCBob May 2016 #7
Need to wait until there's something to accept/reject before I can answer that -nt Bradical79 May 2016 #18
I'd like to wait and see what the Investigation brings up. IMO, she is not libdem4life May 2016 #4
No. Wrong question Rebkeh May 2016 #9
And based on her past actions, no, she will not truedelphi May 2016 #13
She has no reason to deceive Bernie on this. DCBob May 2016 #15
Just as we have no reason to believe a thing she says. Eom. Rebkeh May 2016 #17
Really? Could have fooled me. Remember those untrustworthy ratings? libdem4life May 2016 #19
The level of hatred toward her has reached ridiculous proportions. joshcryer May 2016 #23
Indeed.. many of the Berners have gone off the deep end. DCBob May 2016 #25
I don't blame you. What with inconvenient facts that are just non stop... libdem4life May 2016 #30
Facts like those found at National Review, out of the mouth of Joe DiGenova, lol. BootinUp May 2016 #34
I have absolutely no idea what this post is about. libdem4life May 2016 #35
Those are the sources where the Bern Squad have been getting "facts" from and BootinUp May 2016 #40
Well, if they speak about events and facts that are out there, libdem4life May 2016 #41
Amazing how as long as it fits your purpose the source don't matter. nt BootinUp May 2016 #42
Excellent! yallerdawg May 2016 #11
Remember when God was taken out... joshcryer May 2016 #20
It should be noted that the Washington Post has only an interest truedelphi May 2016 #12
Of course she will, does no one remember 2008? joshcryer May 2016 #14
Right. Those silly goal posts. Anything can go into a Platform. libdem4life May 2016 #21
See? joshcryer May 2016 #24
Pathetic? Really? How quaint. I think you missed my point. libdem4life May 2016 #28
Wrong, it's not the next damn election. joshcryer May 2016 #46
What she says and what she does are two different things. panader0 May 2016 #22
Wait a minute! Isn't she supposed to be "progressive" already? What's to negotiate? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #36
+1! egalitegirl May 2016 #45
fortunately the sanders ppl I know in the real world are NOTHIng like the sanders ppl on DU nt msongs May 2016 #37
Thank goodness! DCBob May 2016 #38
I don't know any Hillary supporters in real life. Vermont doesn't have many. cali May 2016 #39
Does Vermont have a 15.00 minimum wage? nt fun n serious May 2016 #44
I wish I could rec. this, but I can barely bother to post here. silvershadow May 2016 #48
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. Wall St Journal says that people "predict"...
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:41 PM
May 2016

The real question is: can she be trusted to keep her word?

History suggests not.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
10. If he continues to trash and bash her...
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:45 PM
May 2016

why would anyone expect her to keep holding our her hand in peace?

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
16. Simple. She doesn't tell the truth. I don't believe her for one minute.
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016

The first moment it is necessary, she will pivot/bolt/contort back to her natural roots. And they seem to be getting further away from traditional Democratic values.

And No One Is Sure what her status will be in the future. She's a Wild Card.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
27. Another rousing adult comment. Thing is, I didn't ask you to believe it.
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:24 PM
May 2016

This is a discussion board. Don't take everything so personally. Just because people don't agree with you, or deign to post opposing opinions, doesn't mean they don't like you. Of course, few of us know each other, so there's that.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
43. Are you one of those alleged progressives
Fri May 13, 2016, 09:21 PM
May 2016

who think Obama is a republican? There is a lot of that here. Do you know of any republican who would protect transgenders? If so which ones? I personally do not think we should take some people here on DU seriously. The authoritarian zealots. You know the type.. Obama was the first president who endorsed marriage equality but hey... that wasn't good enough.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
29. He shouldn't get this oportunity in the first place...
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

since we have elected her. The people have spoken and even though any true believer disagrees, the people have spoken.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. I'd like to wait and see what the Investigation brings up. IMO, she is not
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

qualified, given her poor judgment and outstanding legal problems, to lead the party. Without question, Day 2 will be impeachment proceedings. But Bill, with his experience, will be there to coach her along.

How did we end up with this clusterF###.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
13. And based on her past actions, no, she will not
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:49 PM
May 2016

Ever honor any pledges, platform or otherwise, to help the middle class. At least not until she has set it up to ensure that her buddies on Wall Street can keep on keeping on.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. She has no reason to deceive Bernie on this.
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016

She more or less agrees with Bernie on most issues and she certainly doesnt want to piss off Bernie supporters.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
25. Indeed.. many of the Berners have gone off the deep end.
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:10 PM
May 2016

I dont take many of them seriously anymore.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
30. I don't blame you. What with inconvenient facts that are just non stop...
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

think is, we didn't make them up. Harry Truman: "I don't give them hell, I tell the truth and they think they're in hell." Some statements transcend generations.

That's what "off the deep end" means. Those damn inconvenient facts. In writing, on video, for decades...nowhere to hide.

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
34. Facts like those found at National Review, out of the mouth of Joe DiGenova, lol.
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

Stop with the spinning, even DU longtimers like me can get dizzy.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
35. I have absolutely no idea what this post is about.
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:56 PM
May 2016

I quoted a saying by Harry Truman. It's in history books...now online. It seems to reflect the reality of the current political season. JMO.

National Review? Joe whoever? Sorry...doesn't compute. Try actually responding to the post...speaking of spinning. No wonder you're dizzy.

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
40. Those are the sources where the Bern Squad have been getting "facts" from and
Fri May 13, 2016, 09:06 PM
May 2016

I haven't seen many BS supporters objecting. One thread in particular starts with the title "Storm Warning:..." one of the zillions of posts about the email-ghazi "scandal".

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
41. Well, if they speak about events and facts that are out there,
Fri May 13, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

I don't see the problem. I'm not going to object.

if they are lies, made up, prevaricated, flip flopped, pretzeled, then I'd understand.

And, even though many of us thought the Benghazi!!!! thing was over, apparently it's taken on another life via the emails of staffers and the Foundation et al. What is in writing is surely fair game...regardless. Funny how you can't erase servers of those to whom many of these "questionable" messages were sent.

Unfortunately the emails and The Foundation have now intertwined to some degree, so it may not be such a RWNJ Booga Booga. I just hope she doesn't take down Obama. But, if he did the deed and bowed to her PUMA pressure and put her in a position she was ill-suited for ethically, well, perhaps it's his Karma.





joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
20. Remember when God was taken out...
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

...and southern / conservatives fought to put it back in?

The same thing is going to happen with Sanders delegates, only with things like single payer.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
12. It should be noted that the Washington Post has only an interest
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

in making and keeping happy those Political Big Shots that Jeff Bezos will be going to for favors. (Bezos purchased Wash Po some time ago.)

Bezos had his lobbyists orchestrate the hand over of the US Postal service to Amazon, Spring of 2007. (Under a "Democratic Majority" Congress, BTW.)

Bezos thinks Hillary has a lock on the election - his reporters bring only puff pieces to their editors' desk for approval.

Don't expect much critical thinking aimed at HRC from this source.

Gotta keep that US Postal Service as part and parcel of Amazon's "free delivery" mail room. (And delivery is not really free - smaller businesses have been paying a heftier US Postal charge since Spring 2007, so Amazon can let its customers get a break.)

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
14. Of course she will, does no one remember 2008?
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

It's not even controversial. People will just move the goal posts and say the platform doesn't mean anything.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
21. Right. Those silly goal posts. Anything can go into a Platform.
Fri May 13, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

Much of it meaningless. Perfect place to hide Bernie's "Unicorns and Ponies". LOL

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
24. See?
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:03 PM
May 2016

Rather than, you know, hold democrats accountable for their platform, you just shrug and say oh well.

Pathetic.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
28. Pathetic? Really? How quaint. I think you missed my point.
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

Platforms are nice. They mean nothing after the election. It's pretty much a feel-good document. Look at the candidate's history, and you can see the future.

And the first chance to "do something" ... which I guess earned the "shrug" and "pathetic" ... is the next election.

But you knew that.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
46. Wrong, it's not the next damn election.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

It's a continual process. The next election is when you get rid of them for not doing what they said.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
36. Wait a minute! Isn't she supposed to be "progressive" already? What's to negotiate?
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:59 PM
May 2016

Is she going to "evolve" into a Socialist? A Green? Champion Single Payer? Free Tuition? Return corporate investments...er...donations? Split up the banks?

Is she talking Revolution?

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
48. I wish I could rec. this, but I can barely bother to post here.
Sat May 14, 2016, 02:23 AM
May 2016

Mostly as a marker. There's so much I could say about this. I will just start here: The article, by the very forces that Bernie is fighting, presumes the premise that Clinton will even be the nominee, or in a position to "give" him anything. As this primary soldiers on, the actual state of things will become much clearer later. Let us first finish up the voting.

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