MSNBC host to @SenSanders aide Weaver: Telling his fans he can still win is 'dishonest'

[riversedge]

Yes, it is.


NaphiSoc ?@NaphiSoc 6h6 hours ago

MSNBC host to @SenSanders aide Weaver:
Quit LYING and just #FeelTheMath

[morningfog]

1. He has not been mathematically eliminated. Hillary has not clinched it.

[scscholar]

17. This

He can still win the vote and can still win if something happens. Hillary stayed in so long in 2008 for the same reasons.

[metroins]

28. He can stay in

But he should stop giving people false hope, collecting large donations for a failed run and most certainly stop attacking Hillary.

I think it's healthy for Sanders to stay in, but it's very unhealthy to hurt the party.

I also am disgusted by the fundraising from poor people then giving the money to large corporations, Devine/Weaver and wasting it like he's going to win. That money would be better off in the donors pockets or helping down ticket candidates or helping Hillary win the GE.

The continued fundraising for his failed presidential bid literally makes me sick, yes literally, correctly used. I feel such empathy (or is it sympathy?) for the donors who don't realize he lost 2 months ago.

In February and March it was honest, in April it started to get sad and in May it just feels wrong and fraudulent.

[highprincipleswork]

32. You know what, please notify me when Bernie hires you as a consultant to his campaign.

Till then, deal with it.

Why don't you spend your time making sure Hillary stays Progressive enough to attract half the votes she will need if she does become the candidate.

[metroins]

35. Hillary has a great team

She's already handily beat Sanders.

I've got a job that is going pretty well already.

[highprincipleswork]

37. Then how bout keeping your nose out of whether or not Bernie continues to represent his supporters

or not. We're certainly not asking him to drop out. In fact, I'm insisting that he stay in, as long as he possibly can.

And to do that effectively, he needs to raise money, three million dollars just recently from what I read. Using folks that worked for obama in 2008.

Bravo!

[kstewart33]

50. Whoa there, guy.

Metroins can post about anything having to do with the primaries as long as it does not violate DU rules.

[JonLeibowitz]

57. Oh give me a break, the concern trolling is obvious

Please Bernie, stop raising money and winning primaries, it is bad for the poor! I don't support you and never have, but I think it is my place to criticize where the campaign goes and what it stands for and works towards.

^^ It's pretty rich and over the top. That is what the GP was speaking to.

[pandr32]

55. She is the presumptive nominee already

Bernie can't win at this point, and his ultra-expensive managers Weaver and Devine know it. What will become of them if Sanders packs it up?

Also, Hillary Clinton is not only progressive enough, she has worked out how to properly pay for all of her proposals. She made sure each was doable before she trotted them out publicly as part of her platform. Maybe "half the votes she will need" that you allude to are not nearly half, and come from people who put ideology ahead of practicality. They need to be the ones to figure things out.

[coffeeAM]

2. That host is a Clinton ........ Everytime he is on it is a clinton lovefest..

[Human101948]

3. Do you think we're all so stupid that we don't see the numbers?

The issues that he is fighting for are too important to give up on. Just because his (and our) persistence doesn't please Hillary fans is just unfortunate for them.

[ebayfool]

4. They are supporters, not "fans". That belittles voters that support his run.

And furthermore, his supporters are old enough to vote - so they are old enough to read the stats. Saying it's dishonest is a Brock tactic. Voters have the right to go to the finish line with the candidate of their choice. 'Taint over 'til it is done. At the convention with votes tallied.

What is more dishonest is infantilizing adult damned voters with remarks like that.

[bkkyosemite]

8. Right on!

[nenagh]

18. Well said,

thank you

[frylock]

24. Thank you.

These fools think this is American fucking Idol.

[NurseJackie]

5. Dishonest ... yes, absolutely true.

[Autumn]

6. It would be dishonest of Bernie if he did not do as he promised he would.

Stay and fight to the very end. So fuck that POS MSNBC host.

[Cheese Sandwich]

7. banana peel

[procon]

9. Maybe "Feel the Bern" is more about feeling the Benjamins now? nt

What's Bernie's haul been lately, is he still banking $40MIL at a pop?

[ebayfool]

10. You're confusing his campaign with the Clinton Foundation ...

but they don't accept $27 a pop. They only take hauls in the range of $250,000.

KMA

[procon]

14. No, I'm quite sure he's had a couple of $40MIL months.

Don't know his most recent take, so I asked. Anyone know?

[fun n serious]

11. Staying in to count every vote in not dishonest

Saying you still have a chance to win the nomination IS

[highprincipleswork]

33. He has a chance, and we intend to use every last action we can take to make sure that he does.

The rest of you can go do crossword puzzles or something, if you're too anxious about all this.

Or you could try to help Hillary understand that she would be better off keeping her Progressive bona fides, such as they are, if she wants to win this election.

It's not post-Reagan anymore. It's almost post-Obama. And we need someone to continue and to further Progressive causes, not go back to the same old triangulating and bait and switch that used to disempower so many people

We feel empowered around Bernie, and we would/could feel empowered around Hillary if we sensed there was half a chance she would be as "Progressive" as you all sometimes claim she is.

[beachbumbob]

12. It is dishonest....

The math does not work...and sanders hopes that threats and intimidation of super delegates does??!

[Eric J in MN]

13. No other candidate gets this garbage.

John Kasich only won one state but reporters didn't call him dishonest for saying he might win.

They do that to Bernie Sanders because he's fighting the establishment.

[procon]

15. Kasich dropped out, not much point calling him anything after that.

They do it to Bernie because he's losing and very close to becoming a spoiler. If he wants to see some of his key issues survive his inevitable withdrawal, he should start negotiating while he still retains some clout.

[morningfog]

19. There is no way for him to become a spoiler in a two person race.

And you have no idea whether and what negotiations or discussions have taken place. You only assume because it doesn't seem to fit your expectations.

[oberliner]

16. Yes they do

Kasich was regularly mocked on CNN for staying in when he had no chance. They would jokingly say that he was 4th in a 3 person race.

[morningfog]

20. Kasich was mathematically eliminated long before he dropped out.

[procon]

22. And Bernie faces the same fate. nt

[k8conant]

30. Hardly....since Bernie has not been mathematically eliminated yet...

what happens to Hillary's delegates when she drops out?

[Eric J in MN]

45. Being mocked for long odds isn't the same as

...being called "dishonest" for long odds.

[oasis]

21. Time was, Bernie donors would kick into the kitty in response to

such an OP. I guess it's finally sunk in.

[oasis]

27. That just wouldn't be their style.

[Lodestar]

23. And MSNBC is an expert on dishonesty... n/t

[frylock]

25. Calling it a "security review" when you know your ass is grass is dishonest.

[mhatrw]

29. No, it is not. Not if the Democratic establishment comes to its sense. nt

[highprincipleswork]

31. Oh yeah, like I'm taking my marching orders from an MSNBC host!!! Nor should Bernie or any

of his supporters.

Those of you who wish for him to drop out now can just hold your breath for a while longer, because it isn't going to happen.

Quite being a premature elaborator.

[Android3.14]

34. Hillary surrogates accusing others of being dishonest

[Waiting For Everyman]

36. And Roberts is trying to influence the election by lying.

Of cours Sanders can win. Neither will win before the convention, so obviously Roberts' statement is nonsense, which is intended to negatively impact Sanders' support.

I'm sure it's not working but it's still a fraudulent move by Roberts. Cosigning that here is what it is.

[jillan]

38. Fans??? Excuse me! I am not a FAN. I am an American citizen that is fed up

with what has happened to our political system and having been waiting for decades for someone to come along a represent what I believe in.

And after decades, I finally have a Presidential candidate that speaks for me.
I am not giving up on that fight until someone reaches 2383 *pledged* delegates or until every primary is completed.

Even if Bernie loses, I am still not giving up the fight. I will focus on down ticket races & the 2018 midterms.

This is not a sporting event, as the msm likes to portray. We are electing a President.

I am so glad I turned off msnbc month ago. Even CNN is better, which says a lot.

[snowy owl]

41. Took a while to break the habit - I still cruise. But CNN is better. Not nearly as repetitive.

MSNBC keeps interviewing themselves/each other. Have you noticed that? Every show it is the same guests over and over. And Lawrence preaching minute after minute. CNN has been refreshing. And I love their primary panels with guests from both sides always including Van Jones or Bill Press. Guests that support Trump, Clinton and Sanders - usually two supporters for each candidate. Makes for a far more interesting discussion.

MSNBC speaks to the sheep that want to hear all about their candidate and no one else.

[jillan]

42. The other day Don Lemon had on Bill Press AND Nina Turner sitting in his panel. At the same time!

You cannot find any Bernie surrogates on Msnbc.

CNN always has someone on to represent Bernie and I really appreciate that.
I love Nomiki Konst - have you seen her? She is amazing. She can "talk Bernie" better than most

[snowy owl]

40. Sanders supporters know what we are doing. Offensive to think we don't. MSNBC meme.

We know our candidate much better than you know our candidate or you wouldn't have posted another MSNBC meme.

[riversedge]

44. Well, I suspose he has to say he will win in order to collect funds and stay in.

[B Calm]

43. The Democratic Primary is still going on and millions of voters have not voted yet. Hillary hasn't

won anything. So take your voter suppression and just go away!

[BootinUp]

46. Yes. And in the end it will not help Bernie's wishes for a strong movement either.

Once his supporters realize they were duped.

[Surya Gayatri]

47. Massive K & R. Thanks for posting.

[mcar]

48. K&R

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. I agree with Mr. Weaver.

It's analogous to telling children that their Christmas presents don't come from Santa Claus . They shouldn't be told until they reach a level of maturity they can accept it.

[Perogie]

51. You obviously can't recognize a lie.

This is what a lie is.

[OhZone]

53. Actually she was told there was the possibility of sniper fire and they had to move -

things around to protect her. So - not really a lie.

[Perogie]

56. you're funny

She actually said she was under sniper fire. Big difference between saying possible sniper fire and that she was actually under sniper fire.

Watch the video, the words come out of her own mouth.

[OhZone]

52. So -

[grossproffit]

54. So, Bernie still has a chance!!!!!!!

[Gothmog]

58. Sanders is lying about his chances to keep small donors making donations

Sanders has no chance of being the nominee