The use of Lolita/Orgy to describe what occurred on that island is wrong and extremely offensive.

[Skwmom]

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When old men sexually exploit an young underage girl it is wrong to refer to the girl as a Lolita (it inappropriately tries to shift the blame to the underage victim).

Definition of Lolita : a precociously seductive girl

It is also wrong to refer to what occurred as an orgy because when most people hear the word orgy they think of consenting adults, not old men sexually exploiting underage girls.

If that was your daughter, granddaughter or sister would you want her referred to as a Lolita who engaged in island orgies?

Note: I mentioned no names here. This is not about who was or was not there, it is about not using this terminology. And words used to describe a fact CAN change a person's view of those facts. Words matter!

[braddy]

1. The same thing happened to Lewinski, she became the seducer, the equal to a President, her name even

became the sex act, this time it is "Lolitas" and orgies, almost like a party of some sort.

If this was some pervert ring down by the border, it would sure not be given this treatment.

[Skwmom]

2. Bill Clinton was MUCH older and had all the power. It was wrong to attack her in such a manner.

[braddy]

4. Yep and to this day she is seen as almost the cause, and the media calls it an affair, when

in reality she never even saw him naked, she was just used to service him.

[Skwmom]

6. The acts are wrong but it is ALSO wrong to try to paint the victims as equally responsible of even

the ones who were seductive and promiscuous and the aggressors.

[msongs]

5. oddly enough you ignore the context and the charges against certain people that are false nt

[Skwmom]

7. I didn't mention any parties. Are you saying Epstein is innocent?

[egalitegirl]

9. I don't think you are correct

Lolita refers to the attitude towards the girls in the minds of the criminals. The origin of the term is the title of Nabokov's book. When the plane is called Lolita Express, the object of your sentence happen to be the perpetrators, not the victim.

[Luminous Animal]

11. A lot of people don't get that. It was not her actions but how he interpreted them and then

preyed on her vulnerability. The entire book belies her culpability and exposes him for the predator that he is.

[Luminous Animal]

10. There is no denying that Clinton travelled on that plane with underaged women who

were there sole-y for sexual exploitation by a pedophile.

[840high]

12. I don't doubt it.

[mhatrw]

13. It depends on what your definition of "Lolita/Orgy" is,

[One Black Sheep]

14. All I know is this is the kind of sordid business we knew we would have to deal with nominating one

of the Clintons, Bill's history of womanizing is well known, and yet another reason this nominee is a huge mistake, because of all the baggage. Jesus Christ, it probably can get worse too.

[SwampG8r]

15. Heres da t'ing as they say on st thomas

Every adult i talked to while.living on st thomas knew what was going on on little st james island
It aint no secret there
They just look the other way because of the wealth involved

[Skwmom]

18. Words matter.

[MineralMan]

17. How is this about the Democratic primaries?

Belongs in GD, not GD .