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Oregon has one of the best voting systems in the nation. (Original Post) fun n serious May 2016 OP
If Bernie loses Oregon I'll eat my hat. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #1
The polls show Hillary ahead. fun n serious May 2016 #3
I am not worried, I know the town and state I love will bring Bernie a victory. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #4
Nope. fun n serious May 2016 #6
East Portland? all the poor folks where forced to move...... Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #7
It's a deal. I'll do the same fun n serious May 2016 #9
Alrighty - fair enough. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #10
Peace to you. nt fun n serious May 2016 #11
that is a friendly competition DLCWIdem May 2016 #13
not usually sane and rational. lol fun n serious May 2016 #20
yes but DLCWIdem May 2016 #29
You win!! fun n serious May 2016 #35
Kudos. joshcryer May 2016 #36
Gracias! Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #38
You won't find many poor folk in Lake Oswego nt Buzz cook May 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #39
Ashland bkkyosemite May 2016 #27
-A- poll. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #18
I know one Hillary voter. I am a person with a landline and I do pick up polling calls in election Bluenorthwest May 2016 #21
Isn't it bizarre LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #24
Good grief. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #32
Yes we do BUT having a talk with an election office I asked a question....who owns bkkyosemite May 2016 #2
As someone that votes by mail in Washington state, no. scscholar May 2016 #5
I live in Washington too and I hate vote by mail LisaM May 2016 #28
I like going in person but that's still a good system seeing you can self verify. NWCorona May 2016 #8
I think you might be pleasently surprised at OR results. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #12
Just for fun. I do participate in vintage days tho. NWCorona May 2016 #14
I used to go quite often but that was before I had to sell my 914. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #15
I hope you sold it recently! Those have gone up in price quite a bit! NWCorona May 2016 #16
It was about 10 years ago. I should have held onto it but couldn't afford to at the time. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #17
I havent cried foul on any of the states. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #19
Even as a Hillary supporter Codeine May 2016 #22
I've answered three polling calls this cycle, each one was slated, push poll type stuff. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #26
Who is 'y'all'? And why not speak of what your choices will be if Bernie wins Oregon rather Bluenorthwest May 2016 #23
You forgot to mention LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #25
You have your answer from the Berners CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #31
Whereas WHEN Sanders wins Oregon, it will be "operation chaos" and "Oregon is all white people!" Warren DeMontague May 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #40
It's a closed primary, so they'll blame Sanders loss on that KingFlorez May 2016 #34
Guess you can rest easy, huh. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #37

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
4. I am not worried, I know the town and state I love will bring Bernie a victory.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:36 PM
May 2016

Eugene and Portland metro will kill it for Bernie - hell I think he takes Bend and Salem too.

EDIT - I'll give ya The Dalles though.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
6. Nope.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:49 PM
May 2016

PDX Suburbs, Gresham, Hillsboro, Happy Valley, Lake Oswego, Canby, East Portland where the poor foiks were forced to move to by elite white liberals... I think it will be close. We'll see.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
7. East Portland? all the poor folks where forced to move......
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:53 PM
May 2016

OK, bookmark it - if Bernie loses OR I'll happily toss $100 towards any charity of your choice. I'd recommend the Oregon Humane Society but it's your pick.


Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
10. Alrighty - fair enough.
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:02 AM
May 2016

Until May 17th then.



EDIT- Either way the OHS win and I can live with that but I honestly think your chances are slim.

Cheers.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
13. that is a friendly competition
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:10 AM
May 2016

I just have to say after some of the exchanges i have seen here that I am very impressed with both of you being sane and rational.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
29. yes but
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

If we could all bet maybe we would say you have to do a nice article about the others candidate if I win. So Sanders supporters would actually have to put their money where their mouth is so to speak an or vice versa. Probably wouldn't work because everytime HRC wins its cheating or it doesn't count for some reason.

Response to fun n serious (Reply #6)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. -A- poll.
Sat May 14, 2016, 02:15 AM
May 2016

Two things I will say about the Oregon I know, I don't know anyone who is voting for Hillay Clinton, and I dont know anyone who has a landline that they will answer if the caller id says something like "DMH research"

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. I know one Hillary voter. I am a person with a landline and I do pick up polling calls in election
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:55 AM
May 2016

season. This cycle I have not completed a single telephone poll on any race, Presidential or otherwise because every poll I have started turns very 'push poll' very quickly and I just hang up. This is not how it has been in other cycles. I had a call about the Sec of State race that was basically 'If we told you good people hate Avakian would that make you less prone to vote for him? What if we told you he was a pirate?'

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
24. Isn't it bizarre
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

How that SOS race has turned so negative? It seems they mostly have the same ideas so its all character attack.

Very ugly.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
2. Yes we do BUT having a talk with an election office I asked a question....who owns
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:30 PM
May 2016

the tabulators throughout the state. The same private company.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
5. As someone that votes by mail in Washington state, no.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:42 PM
May 2016

Too many votes are thrown away. Immediately after the last election, my county admitted to not counting 7% of the votes. Also, since my county added a crappy Windows machine that has a web interface to their database, I haven't seen my vote count a single time.

Also, the county claimed that only 80% of my precinct voted yes for gay marriage. We all know that percentage is too low.

LisaM

(27,789 posts)
28. I live in Washington too and I hate vote by mail
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016

And one reason is the example you gave above, thousands of spoiled ballots. Something like 30,000 one election. They are so married to the system that they don't publicize this at all. Glad you brought it up. Time for a phone call!

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
8. I like going in person but that's still a good system seeing you can self verify.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:59 PM
May 2016

I love Oregon and will be at PIR next weekend. I actually think Hillary has a shot at the Beaver State.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
12. I think you might be pleasently surprised at OR results.
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:10 AM
May 2016

Anecdotal for sure, but everyone in Portland metro that I have talked to and that's a lot - I've been working for Sanders locally for a few months - He's gonna crush it.

Very few HRC supporters but I have met a few, unfortunately I've ran into more than a few 'Who Cares?' but only slightly larger in number than HRC supporters.

Going to track night eh? You got a fat ride or just there for the fun?


NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
14. Just for fun. I do participate in vintage days tho.
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:35 AM
May 2016

Do you head out to the track?

I hope you're right about Sanders. I have my fingers crossed!

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
15. I used to go quite often but that was before I had to sell my 914.
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:41 AM
May 2016

She was cherry, and I have my fingers crossed too but I think he's got it.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
16. I hope you sold it recently! Those have gone up in price quite a bit!
Sat May 14, 2016, 01:37 AM
May 2016

I had a 951 that was set up for the track and was a blast to drive. I sold it recently to fund other projects in the garage.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
17. It was about 10 years ago. I should have held onto it but couldn't afford to at the time.
Sat May 14, 2016, 01:46 AM
May 2016

951, that's an 80's model 944 no? Nice.

I swear I'll get another 914 (this time I'll go with a Subaru engine mod) or a 1970s 911 before I'm dead.

Cheers.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
22. Even as a Hillary supporter
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:46 AM
May 2016

I think Sanders probably has Oregon wrapped up. It strikes me as a difficult state to poll, and mail-in voting probably makes new voters and young voters a more reliable and potent voting bloc.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
26. I've answered three polling calls this cycle, each one was slated, push poll type stuff.
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:17 AM
May 2016

Have not completed a single one. This applies to State wide races as well.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. Who is 'y'all'? And why not speak of what your choices will be if Bernie wins Oregon rather
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:05 AM
May 2016

than address others as some faceless mass? Do you have a voice of your own that speaks of your own intentions and objectives directly rather than this furtive, passive aggressive inquisition of 'y'all'?
I tire of those who preach sermons to all the sinners they see around them, I favor those who speak their own minds.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
25. You forgot to mention
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:13 AM
May 2016

that the state automatically registers you to vote when you apply for or renew your driver license. Maybe in a close primary that won't make much of a difference but it should lead to greater turnout.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. Whereas WHEN Sanders wins Oregon, it will be "operation chaos" and "Oregon is all white people!"
Sat May 14, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

...Speaking of excuses.

Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #33)

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