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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:33 PM May 2016

The only reason Bernie is still in the nomination discussion is because of Superdelegates (Math!)

Because superdelegates are unpledged Bernie and his team can insist they still have a path by convincing these voters to switch to him (They won't, but that is a different story.). If superdelegates were actually forced to be pledged to either the state winner or proportional to the state results, meaning they can't change their votes based on personal desires, Bernie would actually be in a lot worse shape.

To get started, the states and territories that have voted have 543 superdelegates between them.

If supers for those states were allocated to the winner of each state (I.e pledged), Hillary would currently have 2,096 delegates to Bernie's 1,601. Clinton would be only 288 delegates away from securing the nomination, which, thanks to proportional allocation of regular delegates, Clinton would be guaranteed to achieve on June 7th even if she loses every remaining state.

So how about proportional allocation? That has to be better for Bernie, right? Well, not really.

Proportionally, Clinton would be at 2,009 delegates versus Sanders at 1,688. Clinton would be 375 delegates away from clinching, and with proportional allocation for all delegates including supers, she would, again, be guaranteed to secure the nomination on June 7th.

So, ironically, the current system is the only one that actually gives Bernie a chance at a "contested" convention. Every other scenario that people are grumbling should happen ("Supers need to represent the will of the people!&quot would result in Bernie losing without equivocation on the 7th. It is only because supers are unpledged that he can even pretend that the nomination fight will last until the convention.

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The only reason Bernie is still in the nomination discussion is because of Superdelegates (Math!) (Original Post) Godhumor May 2016 OP
Oh, gosh gee wizz.. another one. pangaia May 2016 #1
All those facts... CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #7
THe only reason CLinton has made it this far Ferd Berfel May 2016 #2
Uh she is beating Bernie by 3,000,000 votes redstateblues May 2016 #4
and 59 million hasn't even voted yet! B Calm May 2016 #9
???????? Zynx May 2016 #5
One of the main reasons is that redstateblues May 2016 #3
So yo are saying HRC has 2383 delegates now? I don't think so. MATH Vincardog May 2016 #6
I think you missed my point n/t Godhumor May 2016 #8

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
4. Uh she is beating Bernie by 3,000,000 votes
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:40 PM
May 2016

I know that's a bitter pill for a Bernie fan. BSS would like to think he's more popular than he really is.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
3. One of the main reasons is that
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:38 PM
May 2016

The media is keeping Bernie propped up so they can be sure to get The lions share of those $37 donations

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