Don't let other OPs fool you ... Sanders has only won 11 of the last 25 ... BS is not on a roll

[SFnomad]

Since March 8th, Sanders has won the following:

Michigan, Idaho, Utah, Alaska, Hawaii, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Rhode Island, Indiana, West Virginia

Since March 8th, Sanders has LOST the following:

Mississippi, Northern Marianas, Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Arizona, New York, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Guam

And in that same time, Sanders has LOST the pledged delegate race 1042 to 944. BS has fallen behind by nearly 100 pledged delegates during that period. That is not the definition of being "on a roll".

If you need to be lied to, to pretend that your candidate is still in the race, what does that really say about your chances?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

[BootinUp]

1. K & R

[msongs]

2. well there are those undemocratic caucuses he "wins"...hell even tourists are allowed to vote for

him in those

[w4rma]

44. As opposed to closed primaries where new voters and independent voters are suppressed. (nt)

[pnwmom]

60. Hillary has won all the open primaries but 4. n/t

[SFnomad]

86. Don't confuse them with facts n/t

[SFnomad]

61. Closed primaries do not suppress new voters ... and independent voters

are only suppressed if they want to be, because they refuse to register as a Democrat. Of course, they cry about being a victim at that point.

Closed primaries are the most democratic of all, as they allow for the least amount of cross party shenanigans.

[CentralMass]

3. Hillary has not secured the nomination. There are only 283 standard delegates separating them.

Based on the trends the standard delegate count will be very close between the two and it is unlikely that either will have secured enough standard delegates to secure the nomination.

[SFnomad]

4. CA will clinch the nomination for Secretary Clinton, there is no stopping her now n/t

[CentralMass]

5. Only time will tell.

[SFnomad]

23. The first Tuesday in June will be a disappointing day for you n/t

[CentralMass]

25. Bernie would have to win 67% of the remaining delegates to enter the convention with

1 more delegate them Hillary. It is improbable but not impossible

[SFnomad]

27. It's not going to happen ... you can take that to the bank n/t

[morningfog]

55. The last state to vote. It will come down the the wire.

[SFnomad]

63. It's not coming down to the wire ... but go ahead and dream on if you want n/t

[morningfog]

73. Hillary will not clinch until the last state, if she does at all.

[SFnomad]

74. Secretary Clinton will clinch it on June 7th, you can count on it

And there will still be DC to go on June 14th. And Secretary Clinton won't need Montana, New Mexico, North Dakota or South Dakota on June 7th to achieve that either. And probably not New Jersey either.

[morningfog]

83. DC is not a state. CA polls close last.

She will not clinch until the last state, if at all.

[SFnomad]

85. LOL ... it's still a contest in the primaries and they're still votes that count

and Secretary Clinton will still clinch before those votes are counted. It doesn't matter if they're a "state" or not. You people sure are letting your desperation show, in just about every post you make.

[morningfog]

106. No desperation here.

[pnwmom]

62. Hillary is twice as far ahead as Obama was at this point. More than half of the delegates

have already been assigned and she only needs 35% of the remaining pledged delegates to win the majority of them. IOW, she could lose ALL of the remaining contests with 35% or more of the vote and win the majority.

Bernie has only won 45% so far and he needs more than 66% of the remaining pledged delegates to get the majority.

It is extremely likely that Hillary will win the 35% she needs to win the majority of pledged delegates, and extremely unlikely Bernie will get his 66%.

[oberliner]

6. Also worth pointing out that NY and FL had more voters than all the Sanders states combined

For what that is worth.

[w4rma]

45. There were about 100,000 suppressed placebo ballots that weren't counted in New York City.

If those votes were counted, Bernie may have won the state, outright. The night's exit polls back this analysis up, too.

[oberliner]

47. If all 100,000 of those were Sanders voters then Bernie still would've lost the state

Hillary won NY by almost three times that amount.

[w4rma]

50. There were more, outside of the city, in the rest of the state. (nt)

[oberliner]

54. Wouldn't some percentage of them had been Hillary votes?

Especially in NYC, where she did very well.

[w4rma]

58. Placebo ballots are cast by folks who were told that they weren't Democrats.

Hillary polls very poorly among the independent demographic.

[oberliner]

80. Because the Board of Elections screwed up

Many of those voters were Democrats, not independents, who were impacted by a bureaucratic screw up.

[Progressive dog]

7. All it takes is one person who tells them

what they want to hear and the internet starts Berning with the fantasy.

[CentralMass]

8. Has anyone secured the nomination?

[Progressive dog]

10. Did you read the OP and not understand?

BTW Just like elections that are not close are called well before all votes are in, Bernie is too far behind to have a realistic chance at the nomination.

[longship]

9. Blah-de blah de-blah de-blah Blah-blah de-blah!

Blah blah de-blah de-blah blah de-blah de-blah.

[bjo59]

31. Exactly.

[SFnomad]

14. The OP is correct, OP states it is counting pledged delegates DURING that period, from 3/8 to now

[merrily]

13. Stop cherrypicking.

[SFnomad]

15. You have no idea what cherrypicking means, do you?

Another OP states "last 25" and LIES about the outcome. I'm just correcting that.

[merrily]

16. Poster, please. I know exactly what it means and you know I do.

[SFnomad]

17. No, I don't ... because what I'm doing is not "cherrypicking" and that's what you're accusing me of

So, no, it's not clear at all that you know what you're talking about.

[Progressive dog]

18. BS is on a roll

downhill.

[George II]

20. Yes, "momentum" works both ways.

[Hortensis]

22. Indeed it does. If mass is donations,

then drop in donations x previous velocity = drop in momentum.

[SFnomad]

21. Why yes he is ...

[lunamagica]

29. Spot on

[George II]

19. For the most part he wins relatively small, low-black population, rural states and caucuses.

Michigan was the exception, but he won that by about 1% (less than 18,000 votes)

[msongs]

24. so odd that caucus states are the ultimate anti-democracy yet that's where he does best then brags

about winning in an undemocratic manner lol

[NewImproved Deal]

26. I'm with HER!!

[link:|

[SheilaT]

76. So what do I need to do to get in line to have my own turn

at being President?

I mean, you are saying that we don't need to bother to vote for the person we think is best, but simply for the person whose turn it is. I'm so relieved. I don't ever have to think about a candidates positions. or whether or not they tell the truth, or how late they were to gay rights, or if they voted for a truly stupid war, or any of that stuff. All I need to know is whose turn it is, right?

I am so glad I never need to think about what really matters, ever again.

[matt819]

28. Convert that to percentages

And skip the obvious spin, and it's a tad closer than you're suggesting. Yes, Hillary is on the lead, but she hasn't won yet. And this is against an old socialist she was leading by 60 points at the start of the campaign.

Not impressed, with Hillary or your reasoning.

[SFnomad]

30. The only person ((((spin))))ing is you ... stick a fork in BS, he's done n/t

[wendylaroux]

32. Bernie done? I don't know, perhaps?,but get another fork for hc too.

[SFnomad]

34. Why should we do that? She will beat tRump in the Primary. With or without the BS cheerleaders help

[wendylaroux]

36. you need to step back,and really see what is happening.huge swaths of

people are ready to bring it all down.people who thought

the same way you do.----30-40 yr. democrats.are done.

[SFnomad]

37. 30-40 years is a long time from now ... I care about 2016 for the moment.

tRump is part of the problem. You can either be part of the solution or part of the problem ... that's really your choice.

[wendylaroux]

38. no,I mean people who have been democrats for 30-40 yrs.

this is not just the youngsters.

[SFnomad]

39. 30-40 year Democrats are the ones that vote ... the youngsters will not make any changes

until they decide they need to do more than just attend rallies.

[riversedge]

33. Bernie uses his own Bernie Math-and his fans follow.

[132nd Last Angry Man]

35. Truth

[BootinUp]

40. K & R

[NurseJackie]

41. Those who believe the fantasy of Bernie being nominated ...

... will be the most bitterly disappointed and will have the hardest landing when reality sets in.

That will be a shame, won't it?

[SFnomad]

42. I expect them to become more bitter, more angry and more unhinged as reality finally settles in

The last week or so before Skinner finally calls it around here is going to show them to be insufferable.

[NurseJackie]

43. The frantic pace and viciousness of the attacks, smears, and lies that SOME ...

... (not all) of his followers are now engaging in, is a good indicator of the desperation they're feeling and the direness of the situation. You're absolutely correct, SFnomad ... their behavior and aggression will become worse as we witness his campaign's final death throes.

[SFnomad]

48. I separate them into two difference categories ... Sanders supporters ... and BS cheerleaders

I'm sure you can figure out which is which.

[NurseJackie]

49. Yeah ... there are a few that I get along with ...

... a couple that I like, and one that I admire. They're all passionate and enthusiastic, but also reasonable and realistic and pragmatic.

In fact, these few individuals here are exactly like ALL the Bernie supporters that I know in real life.

[Number23]

53. "more bitter, more angry and more unhinged" Holy shit, is that even possible???!!!

[SFnomad]

72. It is ... watch how unhinged "Logical" is becoming at the bottom of the thread n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

57. And I think someone is overflowing with shit.

[SFnomad]

64. You really should quit feeding off those sour grapes, it's not good for you n/t

[joshcryer]

46. Yeah, it's totally dishonest.

I think people who spread that meme are lying trolls. They know he's lost but just post garbage because they get something out of it.

[SheilaT]

77. I'm a littel confused.

If he's lost, does that mean she's got the delegate count she needs to secure the nomination?

And can you possibly explain why she herself didn't drop out of the 2008 race until after the final primary? Really? Then why should he drop out now?

[joshcryer]

78. I said no where that he should drop out.

So your question is highly confusing.

I'm saying that we should not lie that he has a chance to win. With proportional delegations Sanders needs an extremely unlikely series of wins, with landslides in every race. Clinton can lose every single one and still win.

[SFnomad]

79. Not only could Secretary Clinton lose, she could lose by large margins and still get the majority

of pledged delegates. Of course, that's not going to happen ...

[SheilaT]

81. I find the desperation of the Hillary supporters to be rather pathetic.

She was supposed to have this in the bag a year ago. Clearly she is an incredibly weak candidate. Her negatives are incredibly high and getting higher. She polls very badly against Trump.

Personally, I'm done with voting for a lesser of evils.

[DCBob]

51. Thank you for clarifying that.

[Number23]

52. "If you need to be lied to, to pretend that your candidate is still in the race...

what does that really say about your chances?"

Or your intelligence/character?

[Indpndntfrombirth]

56. Either you stand for something or you stand for nothing

There is no dishonor in honestly believing that true social progress stands with a particular dandidate. That the tide of the primaries appears to favor the other candidate should not debase the sincere perspectives of the minority. Tolerance used to be a virtue.

History will tell whether Hillary was worthy of the big ideas of her opponent.

[JimDandy]

59. Well said. n/t

[Logical]

65. Bragging about ONLY losing 11??? now that is funny! Nt

[SFnomad]

66. Obama lost more than that in 2008 .... didn't seem to hurt him any n/t

[Logical]

67. He was a total unknown and KICKED HILLS ASS! Not a good thing!

[SFnomad]

68. Obama wasn't an "unknown", but was certainly lesser known.

Obama didn't kick Senator Clinton's ass ... it was a close race that Senator Clinton won the popular vote on.

Secretary Clinton is creaming BS by 3+ million voters and way more delegates than Obama beat her by. And you people still think BS has some kind of chance.

[Logical]

69. She lead Obama by 30 points! And lost! And Obama was an unknown!

[SFnomad]

70. It's really sad watching how unhinged you people are becoming n/t

[Logical]

71. Lol, and how fucking defensive you guys are becoming. Very telling!

[SFnomad]

75. So now dealing with reality is "being defensive" ... talk about being very telling n/t

[Logical]

82. Keep bragging about losing states, makes your side look clueless. nt

[SFnomad]

84. And now you're just ((((spin))))ing ... it's all you have left n/t

[AgadorSparticus]

113. You really have never heard of Obama before he ran for potus?

He was a rising superstar in the democratic party. It is like saying you have never heard if Elizabeth Warren.

[CobaltBlue]

87. SFNomad—I love that Hillary loses 17–29 voters over 70%…

It has been 80 percent or more for Bernie Sanders in states like Hillary Clinton’s birth state Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin—those delightful “Blue Firewall” states.

This is the No. 1 voting-age base carried by Democrats. It is embarrassing for the long-perceived frontrunner Hillary Clinton.

[SFnomad]

88. Bitter much? You need to quit feeding on those sour grapes. n/t

[CobaltBlue]

89. SFnomad—I am stating some facts…

The Democratic Party’s No. 1 voting-age support comes from 18–29. The Republican Party’s No. 1 voting-age support comes from 65+.

Bernie Sanders, not Hillary Clinton, performs best with the Democrats’ voting-age base. Hillary Clinton, not Bernie Sanders, performs best with the opposition party’s voting-age base.

[SFnomad]

90. Your concern is noted ... Secretary Clinton is beating (and will beat) tRump ... don't you worry n/t

[CobaltBlue]

91. SFNomad—A question for you…

I was looking at your profile.

It says that your favorite group is the one for Bernie Sanders.

I do not understand.

Can you explain?

[SFnomad]

92. I need not explain anything to your kind ... run along now ... take your trolling elsewhere. n/t

[CobaltBlue]

93. SFNomad—Actually, you do need to explain…

I want to know why you are posting at all on the group for Bernie Sanders.

Based on your writings, I assumed—prior to looking up your profile—you would claim as your favorite group the one for Hillary Clinton.

This is your thread. People, including myself, who have responded are kind to do so. And you are in no position to command what the responses can and will be.

If you don’t answer my question—regarding why your favorite group is the one for Bernie Sanders—then it will become clear that your postings cannot be trusted.

[SFnomad]

94. Again, I need not explain ANYTHING to your kind ... buh bye n/t

[CobaltBlue]

95. SFnomad—Are you telling us you are here to troll?

[SFnomad]

96. Nope ... buh bye

[CobaltBlue]

97. SFnomad—Please explain why…

your profile says that your favorite group is the one for Bernie Sanders.

[SFnomad]

98. What part of "buh bye" didn't you understand, the "buh" or the "bye"? n/t

[CobaltBlue]

99. SFnomad—Why is your favorite group the one for Bernie Sanders?

[SFnomad]

102. Yawn, thanks for all the Ks, you're at least good for that n/t

[CobaltBlue]

104. SFnomad—This is your thread. I responded and asked a question. You avoided answering.

[SFnomad]

107. Even more Ks ... thanks. No, I haven't avoided ... I have specifically told you I will not

answer your question, there is a difference. Someone like you, who demands an answer, will not receive it.

[CobaltBlue]

108. SFnomad—So, are you saying you have something you want to hide?

[SFnomad]

109. Even more Ks ... you are so useful. But now, tsk, tsk, tsk ... you know, no answers for you. n/t

[CobaltBlue]

110. SFnomad—According to…

your profile page, where it lists Favorite Group, it says yours is Bernie Sanders. That you have posted 6 within the past 90 days.

Why, with so few a number of posts in Favorite Group, would you post in Bernie Sanders when it is clear you prefer Hillary Clinton?

And why are you dodging my question?

[SFnomad]

111. And even more Ks ... wow, you're my biggest supporter. But again, no answers for you

It doesn't matter how many times you ask/demand, you're not getting an answer. Doesn't matter what you assume, you're probably wrong ... but right or wrong ... no answers for you.

[CobaltBlue]

112. SFnomad—Going by your most recent response…

It sounds like the motivation of your posting on the group for Bernie Sanders may have been to troll it.

The fact that you were present there more than the at the group for Hillary Clinton—which is more appropriate for you—is a logical conclusion.

That you have put forth an effort to not answer my question tells me that I have good reason to not trust you.

[SFnomad]

114. You can assume whatever you want ... but my only motivation now is to get more Ks out of you

and you couldn't be more helpful ... just remember, no answers for you!

[CobaltBlue]

115. SFnomad—You have, in your own way, confirmed my suspicion.

[SFnomad]

116. More Ks .. woohoo ... you are so useful. I have confirmed nothing, you assume everything

because it's what you want to believe.

[CobaltBlue]

117. SFnomad—Thank you for confirming! (And each additional one which may follow.)

[SFnomad]

119. You're almost single handedly helping keep this OP alive with all the Ks ... thank you

But still, no answers for you ... just assumptions on your part.

It's time for goodnight, so I'll continue this tomorrow if you can't get enough of kicking this OP for me. I appreciate your help in keeping this important topic visible.

[Blue_In_AK]

101. Your kind?

Really? What kind is that?

[CobaltBlue]

105. Blue_In_AK—I did not initially notice that. (It is sad.)

[CobaltBlue]

100. Attn. Everyone…

If you live in a state which has not yet voted in this year’s Democratic presidential primaries…please make a point of participating in voting.

[CobaltBlue]

118. IHateTheGOP—Does the same go for every person who has voted the nomination to Bernie Sanders?

Is this your idea of unifying the Democratic Party?