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riversedge

(70,204 posts)
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:42 PM May 2016

Robert Reich comes around: “we must fight like hell for Hillary”

Thank you Robert. I believe most Sanders will come around also.



Robert Reich comes around: “we must fight like hell for Hillary”

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/robert-reich-comes-around-we-must-fight-like-hell-for-hillary/24780/



By dailynewsbin | May 14, 2016 | 2
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Robert Reich is old friends with Hillary Clinton, as served as President Bill Clinton’s Secretary of Labor, but he’s been favoring her opponent Bernie Sanders during the 2016 democratic primary race. However, with Sanders having fallen behind by millions of votes with just a handful of states remaining, and Clinton emerging as the certain nominee, Reich is hedging his bets. In fact he’s now telling his fans that they must “fight like hell for Hillary” if she becomes the nominee.

Of course Reich isn’t yet willing to admit that Hillary Clinton is in fact the nominee. She’s ahead by more than three million votes and she needs just 143 additional delegates to mathematically clinch the nomination. She’s certain to pick those up based on proportional delegates from states like California and New Jersey alone, win or lose. Although Reich doesn’t seem inclined to admit this basic math to his followers just yet despite being an economist who can certainly count to 2383 delegates, he has now begun definitively laying the groundwork for what he himself must know is an eventual pivot toward Hillary...............




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Robert Reich comes around: “we must fight like hell for Hillary” (Original Post) riversedge May 2016 OP
No, that isn't what he said...lol haikugal May 2016 #1
THANKS! elleng May 2016 #4
It would be funny if it weren't so desperate.. haikugal May 2016 #7
I don't think funny, elleng May 2016 #8
You noticed that, too? merrily May 2016 #12
It's like a cult. Corruption rules for some people. For others it's a declaration of war. This party haikugal May 2016 #16
It is like a cult and I never realized the intensity of it until I began reading posts on this site. bjo59 May 2016 #22
I think the party is going to break completely apart if she's the nominee. Fawke Em May 2016 #65
But progressives are by nature less corrupt and less intense. I doubt much will change. Complacency. snowy owl May 2016 #74
That's what's happening. Fawke Em May 2016 #77
Yes thats what he said. puffy socks May 2016 #28
He hasn't "come around" and endorsed Hillary...that's what's implied. It's false. haikugal May 2016 #35
He says puffy socks May 2016 #40
That isn't an endorsement and you know it. What complete bullshit. haikugal May 2016 #41
... puffy socks May 2016 #45
We aren't the ones being duped but you will have to own it if Hillary gets the nomination..she haikugal May 2016 #63
Uh huh puffy socks May 2016 #68
Thank you. Those of us that can read realize that is exactly what he said. Number23 May 2016 #70
DAILY NEWSBIN????????? grasswire May 2016 #37
Perfect....who needs facts eh?! haikugal May 2016 #39
Yep. Remember when ol' Bill Palmer bvf May 2016 #71
Yes, thank you. SusanCalvin May 2016 #43
'Reich is hedging his bets. elleng May 2016 #2
He also said to fight like hell for Bernie, but of course, that's not the headline. merrily May 2016 #13
Right. elleng May 2016 #15
Your subject line is a damn lie! Peace Patriot May 2016 #3
YES! elleng May 2016 #5
They do this all the time. It's an obvious strategy. bjo59 May 2016 #25
Take it up with the author. And rudeness is not a good charater trait! riversedge May 2016 #46
LOL pmorlan1 May 2016 #6
Yes it does, not lol worthy, imo, elleng May 2016 #9
My LOL pmorlan1 May 2016 #11
Gotcha. elleng May 2016 #14
Thanks pmorlan1 May 2016 #20
She looks like the Joker in that graphic. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #10
She looks like the Borg Queen....creepy for sure. haikugal May 2016 #17
That's exactly what I was thinking! Think it will be used on campaign posters if she's nominated? imagine2015 May 2016 #31
I will only come around and "fight like Hell for Hillary" when and if it seems like the proper time. highprincipleswork May 2016 #18
Great news. DCBob May 2016 #19
It's a lie. azmom May 2016 #21
How so? DCBob May 2016 #23
coming around-takes different times for different folks. riversedge May 2016 #27
Why so disingenuous? DLevine May 2016 #38
I am not disingenuous. riversedge May 2016 #49
This is not a real source cali May 2016 #24
He's been saying it for weeks. nt ucrdem May 2016 #26
Then post a real link. He has not switched his endorsement cali May 2016 #30
he will, on June 7 if not before, and the link above is perfect. nt ucrdem May 2016 #48
That's what Bernie also says if Hillary is nominated. A pretty big if. You're post is deceptive. imagine2015 May 2016 #29
Bernie or Bust! PowerToThePeople May 2016 #32
Really? randome May 2016 #33
Robert Reich wrote THIS, this week: elleng May 2016 #34
Debunking Hillary's Specious Winning the Popular Vote Claim Chezboo May 2016 #36
Hey, thanks! nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #44
Reich goes way back with the Clintons hollowdweller May 2016 #42
Duplicitous post. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #47
Reich has been broadcasting his recantation from every rooftop. ucrdem May 2016 #50
Well, not according to this. SusanCalvin May 2016 #52
Here. The link is in the OP source: ucrdem May 2016 #53
I'm fully aware there is a link. SusanCalvin May 2016 #54
click the x in the upper right corner. nt ucrdem May 2016 #55
No idea what you mean, SusanCalvin May 2016 #56
When you click the link I just posted, you get some kind of overlay. ucrdem May 2016 #58
Thanks! That one did take me to the right place. SusanCalvin May 2016 #59
:-D ucrdem May 2016 #60
Okeee Dokee --- Here's my answer Armstead May 2016 #51
So now we are supposed to fight like hell timmymoff May 2016 #57
I really don't know if I'll be able to bring myself to "fight like hell," SusanCalvin May 2016 #61
Why???? seekthetruth May 2016 #62
He is free to do so, I don't have the luxury of more Neo-Liberalism. N/t JPnoodleman May 2016 #64
Same here. Fawke Em May 2016 #67
Just no whatchamacallit May 2016 #66
He's still for Bernie. That is obvious. Continue fishing for supporters who give up on B. snowy owl May 2016 #69
Under the bus he goeeeeessssss! nt Jitter65 May 2016 #72
We're not going to throw him under a bus because a Hillary propaganda site lied. Fawke Em May 2016 #75
LOL! bvf May 2016 #73
It's the Daily News Bin--This will be eventually debunked!! CoffeeCat May 2016 #76
K & R Maru Kitteh May 2016 #78

merrily

(45,251 posts)
12. You noticed that, too?
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:11 PM
May 2016

Good grief.

On the one hand, we should all sit down and shut up because Hillary won.

On the other hand, the desperation to make us give up gets stronger every day.

Cognitive dissonance?

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
16. It's like a cult. Corruption rules for some people. For others it's a declaration of war. This party
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:16 PM
May 2016

Not going to survive if it continues down this track. We will go elsewhere and continue our movement to lift up everyone out of this hellish existence TPTB have planned for us and the earth. I don't think we will go gently into that night. Just sayin....

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
22. It is like a cult and I never realized the intensity of it until I began reading posts on this site.
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

I hope it's not illustrative of a significant mindset out in the real world because it's scary.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
65. I think the party is going to break completely apart if she's the nominee.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:50 PM
May 2016

You saw a taste of it at the Nevada convention tonight. When the DNC rolls rough-shot over the Bernie contingency in Philadelphia, 1968 Chicago is going to look like a kindergarten playground spat.

For all the calls by the media of a Republican split, it seems they're able to come aboard the Trump Train because, fundamentally, Trump isn't all that much different than the average Republican.

Hillary, however, does not represent nearly half the Democratic Party who wants to go back to its FDR roots.

When the plurality of the country doesn't even identify with a party anymore, you know trouble is brewing.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
74. But progressives are by nature less corrupt and less intense. I doubt much will change. Complacency.
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:18 PM
May 2016

Compare tea party on right to progressives on the left. If we got mad and squawked as much, we'd get better results too. Don't you think? Our own occupy movement seems to have dissolved. Too many on left are complacent.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
77. That's what's happening.
Sun May 15, 2016, 12:44 AM
May 2016

Have you seen the participant videos from Nevada tonight? Bernie's people are loud and angry - as anyone should be who has been marginalized for 30 years by both parties - and the elites are telling us to sit down and shut up.

I don't like the "Tea Party on the left" moniker because we're far more informed than that lot (and have far less port-o-potties! I know - asf Bernie's wonderful Secret Service about me. LOL), but we're certainly learning to be the squeaky wheel. We may not have the money, but we have the numbers and the voices.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
28. Yes thats what he said.
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

“I urge you to fight like hell for Bernie as long as he has any chance at all,” Robert Reich told his online audience this week, most of whom are currently Bernie supporters. “But if he loses the nomination, we must fight like hell for Hillary. Not voting, or voting for a third party candidate, helps Trump.”

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
40. He says
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:12 PM
May 2016

"...fight like hell for Bernie as long as he has any chance at all,.."
Bernie has no chance at all.

Name the super delegates that have switched over to Bernie since he said he was taking this all the way to the convention.

He has lost the nomination.
I realize they don't want to hear that ...too bad.

“But if he loses the nomination, we must fight like hell for Hillary..."


"Not voting, or voting for a third party candidate, helps Trump."

Everyone seems to get this except BoB Sanders supporters.


 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
45. ...
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:36 PM
May 2016

Whatever

Bernie has lost.... those who just refuse to admit that have only a few weeks to hang onto that delusional fantasy before the reality is slammed into their wide-eyed faces .
Enjoy!

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
63. We aren't the ones being duped but you will have to own it if Hillary gets the nomination..she
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:36 PM
May 2016

Will lose and lose big.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
70. Thank you. Those of us that can read realize that is exactly what he said.
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:02 PM
May 2016

I wondered why the folks screaming "that's not what he said" didn't provide the quote that was supposed to refute this OP.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
43. Yes, thank you.
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:29 PM
May 2016

And I notice these numbers include supers. At this point, THEY HAVE NO SIGNIFICANCE.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
2. 'Reich is hedging his bets.
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

In fact he’s now telling his fans that they must “fight like hell for Hillary” if she becomes the nominee.'

IF SHE BECOMES THE NOMINEE, GOT IT?

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
3. Your subject line is a damn lie!
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

Total misrepresentation of what he said! He said IF!!!!

CA will have a million new voter registrations by the May 23 deadline including a 150+% increase in young voters! OR has had a similar unprecedented surge. This primary is NOT OVER!

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
25. They do this all the time. It's an obvious strategy.
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:29 PM
May 2016

Trawling every last article that has anything to do with Bernie Sanders and then lifting out a phrase or sentence that can be spun to support their beliefs and dreams when it has been shorn of its context. It's exactly what the corporate media does every single day in this country and it's probably where they learned the trick.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
11. My LOL
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:10 PM
May 2016

is for the original poster thinking that Bernie supporters would believe nonsense crap coming from Daily Newsbin, like Hillary supporters evidently do. Yeah, that deserves a laugh.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
18. I will only come around and "fight like Hell for Hillary" when and if it seems like the proper time.
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:18 PM
May 2016

So far, she hasn't even won.

I am troubled by her FBI investigation, and am not going to support her positively until or unless that gets cleared.

I will wait and see how she and the DNC and the Democratic Party handle Democratic affairs. If they continue to bludgeon and browbeat and exclude and try to see me on the same stale corporate-funded Party shenanigans, then I will decide what to do then.

Their best course of action, which they are already failing at, would be to assure the energized and rather vast (vast enough to be within 300 delegates) of Sander supporters that there is plenty of room for them at the table, that Hillary will continue to support what she has said she will support during the campaign and not lurch wildly back to the Right.

Lurching back to the Right and employing the same tactics that may or may not have been successful for Bill Clinton just don't fly in this day and age. There were tactics forged in the infernal wake of Ronald Reagan's successful brainwashing (also called a "revolution" by the way). They have lingered long past their viable time, as generation after generation of Americans long for something better, something other countries have, something they intuit we had once, when governed successfully by Keynesian economics and true Democrats and the New Deal.

I would love Obama to get with this and help to ensure Progressivism, and Biden too, but then look what they've done with TPP! All of which could be abandoned too, to good effect, especially if you are competing against Donald Trump and he's able to campaign on it being a bad, bad deal and we're in the guise of supporting it.

I'm waiting to see what they will do, and the signs so far aren't good. But that's only mostly Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her high school prom inauguration plans. Sounder minds can come into play here and do the right thing.

I believe even Hillary could/should figure out that her best way to win, to campaign, to run, to govern is to take this vast amount of energy that so far has been arrayed against her, absorb it into her army (but it has to be in an authentic way, or it isn't going to work), and then lead the whole thing into battle against the Trump army. We would run through them very successfully, landslide time.

Continue to argue with and shit upon some of the most ardent Democrats of all time (and those who would choose to be Democrats if it still meant something Progressive) - that would and will be follly.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
29. That's what Bernie also says if Hillary is nominated. A pretty big if. You're post is deceptive.
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

It suggests that Reich is no longer supporting Bernie and has endorsed Secretary Clinton for the nomination.

Why did you do that?

elleng

(130,895 posts)
34. Robert Reich wrote THIS, this week:
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

'Democratic insiders are increasing their pressure on Bernie to bow out of the race. 3 reasons why they’re wrong:

1. They say he’s draining resources form Hillary’s campaign that should be used against Trump. But he’s continuing to mobilize and energize voters about the most important issue in this election – the increasing concentration of income, wealth, and political power at the top, and why it’s harming our economy and democracy. If the Democratic Party stands for anything, it should be to reverse this trend.

2. They say he doesn’t have a chance of winning the nomination or the election. But he’s on a roll. He’s won 18 primaries, including West Virginia this week and Indiana last week, and has a good chance of taking Oregon and Kentucky next week, and perhaps even California June 7. Independent voters are flocking to him, and independents will be the single largest force in the general election. Besides, a big reason why she’s got so many delegates is she’s rounded up so many Democratic-insider superdelegates.

3. They say he’s forcing Hillary to spend time in primary states rather in battlegrounds that will decide the general election. But isn’t this why we have primaries – so that voters can have a choice of primary candidates? As long as Bernie has any chance at all, it’s his right and obligation to fight on.'

https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/?fref=nf

Chezboo

(230 posts)
36. Debunking Hillary's Specious Winning the Popular Vote Claim
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:58 PM
May 2016
She’s ahead by more than three million votes and she needs just 143 additional delegates to mathematically clinch the nomination.


The claim that Hillary is winning the popular vote is one of the most deceptive, specious claims the Hillary Clinton campaign and her surrogates are making. The mainstream media is echoing and giving a total pass on this egregiously dishonest claim.

This is very important for several reasons.

1- Superdelegates are arguing that they are, by supporting Hillary, representing the majority of voters. The truth is that this not true.

2- The mainstream media repeat the "Hillary is winning the popular vote" mantra, or allow Hillary and her surrogates to make the specious claim many many times every day.

Actually, the claim is an affront to the truth, based on the numbers.


More:

Debunking Hillary's Specious Winning the Popular Vote Claim


http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Hillary-and-Her-Surrogates-by-Rob-Kall-Hillary-Clinton_Popular-Vote_Surrogates-160511-219.html
 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
42. Reich goes way back with the Clintons
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:19 PM
May 2016

It sort of speaks volumes though that he left their administration and supported Obama and Bernie over Hillary.

Still he knows Trump would be a disaster.


http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Reich-has-known-Clinton-50-years-so-why-is-he-7240130.php



ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
50. Reich has been broadcasting his recantation from every rooftop.
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

If there's any duplicity it's Reich's.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
53. Here. The link is in the OP source:
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:03 PM
May 2016
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/photos/a.404595876219681.103599.142474049098533/1214528501893077/?type=3&theater

As I’ve said before, I believe Hillary Clinton is best qualified to be president of the political system we now have, and Bernie is best qualified to get the system we need.

So I urge you to fight like hell for Bernie as long as he has any chance at all. But if he loses the nomination, we must fight like hell for Hillary. Not voting, or voting for a third party candidate, helps Trump.


In other words he's hailing a life raft.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
54. I'm fully aware there is a link.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:07 PM
May 2016

It goes to the fb page, not the exact post, which is not on the first screen. And you cannot go past the first screen without an account.

Thank you very much for the confirmation that the OP was a duplicitous post. Much appreciated.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
56. No idea what you mean,
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

But if it involves being able to look at all of fb without having an account, I'm interested.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
58. When you click the link I just posted, you get some kind of overlay.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:13 PM
May 2016

It has an x in the upper right corner. Click that and you'll get to the quote. I don't get it either but it worked for me.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
57. So now we are supposed to fight like hell
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:13 PM
May 2016

for someone who already announced she won't fight like hell for us regarding minimum wage or healthcare issues. Naw, let the Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz donors she courted fight like hell for her.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
61. I really don't know if I'll be able to bring myself to "fight like hell,"
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

Reich or no Reich. But I will try very hard to at least hold my nose.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
62. Why????
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:28 PM
May 2016

I'd rather not fight like hell for another Mideast war, or for further environmental damage. Or for more unabated student debt, or for a sustained inadequate healthcare system, or for more of the same old neoliberal economic policies.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
67. Same here.
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:56 PM
May 2016

My son just turned 17 today and I can't save for any sort of retirement. I am NOT privileged.

We can't take any more wars or income inequality or climate change. If that means we have to tear it down to build it up, so be it.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
69. He's still for Bernie. That is obvious. Continue fishing for supporters who give up on B.
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:00 PM
May 2016
Of course Reich isn’t yet willing to admit that Hillary Clinton is in fact the nominee.

He hasn't "come around." He is saying the obvious: if it isn't Sanders, has to be Clinton. Pretty simple idea. Of course he's not going to give up on the best candidate until no alternative. Why should he?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
75. We're not going to throw him under a bus because a Hillary propaganda site lied.
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:41 PM
May 2016

Geez. We're smarter than that.

Ignoring facts is the Hilliterates game.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
76. It's the Daily News Bin--This will be eventually debunked!!
Sat May 14, 2016, 11:01 PM
May 2016

What a joke!

The Daily News Bin strikes again with their bullshit lies.

Usually it takes 3-10 hours before the truth finally debunks the baloney that comes off the Daily News Bin assembly line.

...but by the time the lie is revealed, these goofball are publishing their next lie.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
78. K & R
Sun May 15, 2016, 12:52 PM
May 2016

R.R. is preparing the devoted bit by bit for the coming transition that has, in fact, already taken place. He is a good man who agonized openly about which candidate he loved more at the beginning of the primary season, and he loves them both still.

More importantly; he is an emotionally mature, intellectually honest man who loves his country and the people of our collective community, especially the vulnerable. He understands well that the narcissism of minor differences must not stand in the way of the election of the Democratic nominee in the fall.

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