64 Bernie Delegates VotesApparently Were Not Counted In Nevada (So Hillary Could Win?)

[Baobab]

one [link:https://twitter.com/meganmesserly|recent reports seem to indicate that as it stands, those in charge have omitted 64 Bernie delegates and that many of those present are not satisfied that the proceedings are being conducted honestly.

[Demsrule86]

1. Hillary won in February

If there were 64 votes then they were stolen by BS supporters...hahah

[CoffeeCat]

2. No, Bernie won the NV convention before

today's NV convention--because many of Hillary's delegates failed to show up.

Today, in NV--at this convention, Bernie would have won. He had more bodies in the room. But the Hillary people stripped 64 of Bernie's delegates of their credentials.

The Bernie delegates never had a chance to fight back. They just stole the votes away.

There's video of this. It is sickening.

[pangaia]

3. From my understanding, YOU are absolutely right.

Aaarrrrgghhhh..

[Demsrule86]

7. Really so the voters chose Bernie...

I don't think so. In fact, I am sure that did not happen...you all pulled sleazy cruzelike stunt and took what you didn't earn. I am glad karma paid you a visit. You do realize that you were stealing minority votes...pretty awful really.

"Hillary Clinton defeated Senator Bernie Sanders in the Nevada caucuses on Saturday, thwarting his momentum and proving to an anxious Democratic Party that she can assemble a broad coalition to carry her to the general election.

Mrs. Clinton’s team breathed a sigh of relief as the results of the often-unpredictable campaign made clear that she had rebounded after her crushing defeat in the New Hampshire primary. At a caucus at the famed Caesars Palace, blackjack dealers, pit bosses, cooks and housekeepers excitedly declared their support for the former secretary of state.

Voters in many predominantly Hispanic and black neighborhoods backed Mrs. Clinton after she worked hard to connect with them, most notably when she comforted a tearful young Latina who feared her parents would be deported. That moment was turned into a powerful ad here for Mrs. Clinton, whose message of solidarity with minority voters stood in contrast to Mr. Sanders’s more esoteric attacks on Wall Street and the campaign."

[CoffeeCat]

9. I didn't read your long screed

No need to drone on and on.

Bernie had more delegates show up in NV.

The Hillary camp stripped 64 Bernie delegates of their credentials. That's the only reason that Clinton won more delegates.

It's on video. Your spin is hot air.

[Demsrule86]

18. I am sure you didn't

You can google and know that Bernie lost Nevada...of course reality does not seem to be Bernie's or his supporters strong suit.

[senz]

36. Same here, TM99. Same here.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. Another example of how the system is rigged by the party establishment...

but they never counted on Bernie - who represents THE PEOPLE! - to buck the system.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[Corporate666]

42. So two wrongs ended up making a right

Who knew? My mom said that doesn't happen.

Guess it really does after all

[pangaia]

52. My dear Coffee, your time and brilliance are to valuable to waste on fluff like that.

Keep up the great, so much needed work......

[AzDar]

4. ...

[Demsrule86]

5. Sorry that is bullshit

You all pulled a Cruze...no ethical candidate would do that or has ever done that in the history of the Democratic party...the voters chose...Hillary and you disrespected the voters and cheated by circumventing the rules...sending out fraudulent letters...you have no understanding of democracy. It is amusing to me to see those that cheated the voters whine when Hillary supporters took back what was rightfully hers...Have you no ethics? Stealing votes?

[CoffeeCat]

10. Bernie didn't steal anything.

We all get what you are doing.

There's video that shows that Bernie would have won in NV, but Hillary's sleezeball tactics unfairly stripped 64 Bernie delegates of their credentials.

Bernie would have won, if this sick, perversion of democracy wouldn't have happened.

[Demsrule86]

16. Right you all so many excuse as to why Bernie lost

he lost because people did not vote for him...he wants to claim fraud...let him...but stealing votes from real people with sleazy tactics is wrong. i realize when Bernie defended this ...he was not an honorable person.

[CoffeeCat]

20. The video is clear...

and what went on in NV is crystal clear.

Hillary's people stripped 64 Bernie delegates of their credentials.

That's how she won. If those 64 would have counted, Bernie would have won.

You Hill people love math so much. There's some math for ya.

And facts too!

[Demsrule86]

27. That is not what I heard

They had no credentials which is why they were not seated. And how about explaining to me how it is right to overturn the vote by stealing a primary you could not win.

[Corporate666]

43. But he DIDN'T win

Would have, could have, should have.


There was at least one person sending letter to tell HRC delegates not to show up.

So HRC was unfairly deprived of some number of delegates. As for those disallowed tonight... you can't say they were unfairly disallowed. Nobody seems to have all the details about why they were disallowed. Maybe it's 100% legitimate. Simply saying it's wrong because the results weren't what you wanted is intellectually dishonest.


However, one thing is clear. HRC won Nevada 53 to 47. So, ultimately, she got more delegates. Procedural issues inbetween not withstanding, the end result is true and correct based on the will of the people.

[Zynx]

22. Frankly, Hillary won the largest vote stage of the process. It's only right that she has the larger

delegate haul out of Nevada.

[CorporatistNation]

54. The Apples Don't Fall Far From The Clinton "Tree!" See CoffeeCat's Post For More Detail!

People's party registrations being SWITCHED!

[reformist2]

11. She probably cheated even then.

[CoffeeCat]

29. Do you know what I think happens in these cases?

I think you are right, those casino workers probably weren't registered voters. But they were counted the night of the NV caucus.

So, guess what happens at the first convention? Those unregistered, fraudulent voters don't show up for Hillary at the convention--because they were cheat votes. They weren't even registered voters.

That is why hundreds and hundreds of her delegates never showed. Because they were phantom voters who weren't even registered.

This happened in my state of Iowa. At our County Convention, 177 of Hillary's delegates didn't show up. There was a great deal of hanky panky that happened in that county...big time, the night of the Iowa Caucus. My guess is that the numbers were reported fraudulently. Hillary was given certain numbers of delegates that really weren't accurate.

So, when the County Convention happens, she's short delegates--because those delegates never existed. They only existed on paper.

This is what I suspect about Iowa---and could be true in NV.

[rhett o rick]

15. Kudos for a quick response. I am sure the cave will be proud, but the response

wasn't very substantive. Although it's what we've come to expect.

[SFnomad]

6. I've never seen a group of people have more excuses and conspiracies why their candidate is losing

They're even beating out Republicans for the conspiracy title ... and that takes a lot of work.

[KingFlorez]

8. No, because they were not registered properly

That is from Jon Ralston is who the most informed name in Nevada politics.

[reformist2]

12. Disgusting. They're acting like Republicans, in their efforts to prevent certain people from voting.

[nolabels]

14. DINO's?

ten or twenty years ago you could pin the elephant tail on the congress critters that took on such resemblance. Now we have people in everyday life taking up such charades. The world is getting crazier everyday

[CoffeeCat]

13. I'm an Iowa delegate--and guess what I discovered

three days before our District Convention--lo and behold--my voter registration said that I was a Republican!

But hold on...I just participated in the Iowa caucuses on Feb 1. I had to be a registered Dem to participate--and I was a registered Dem on Feb 1. But not on May 1. Really now!

SOMEHOW--my voter registration MIRACULOUSLY switched to Republican. I've voted Democrat my entire life!!

I was told that I had to go downtown, switch my registration and get proper documentation of the switch---or my credentials could be stripped by the Hillary people and I would not be allowed to vote or count as a Bernie delegate!

I was also told that other Bernie delegates were showing up as registered Reoublicans, including one Iowa Democratic precinct Chair who was a Bernie delegate and a lifelong Dem. How do you like them rotten apples?

Can.you.believe.this.shit???

So when you tell me that credentials were stripped of NV Bernie delegates because they weren't "registered as Democratic voters by May 1, 2016" my reply is

YEP!! I bet they weren't!! Just like I, a Bernie delegate, suddenly and miraculously became a registered Republican!!

Cheaters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[reformist2]

17. And THAT's how they disqualified all those Sanders supporters today. These people are vile.

Rotten to the core.

[CoffeeCat]

19. Have any of the Sanders supporters who were stripped of their credentials stepped forward

to say why they were stripped of their credentials?

I wonder if what happened to me--happened to them?

I was very lucky. The Iowa delegates had someone checking our registrations, looking for dirty tricks. Sure enough...some were found. Gee, what a shocker!

I guess no one went looking in NV.

It would be interesting to hear what these 64 delegates who were stripped of their credentials, have to say.

[Snarkoleptic]

21. This is proof that the corporatocracy gets what the corporatocracy wants.

It's time to import democracy.

[Corporate666]

44. Well there you go... case closed.

Hillary won the state. Hillary gets the most votes.


Justice is served, the universe is satisfied and karma is doled out correctly.

[beedle]

56. How do you know?

According to the Nevada Credentials Committee Co-Chair they were never given a chance to present their case.

http://trueviralnews.com/?p=148889

The Co-Chair wanted to present a minority report regarding this abuse of the rules but the executives in charge of the convention weren't even going to let her present it.

Leslie Sexton, a convention credentials committee co-chair, took the microphone just after the final results were read and said she had a minority report but was not allowed to give it.

The crowd started up loud chants of “Let her speak” and “Recount,” and after a few minutes a Democratic National Committee (DNC) member gave her the podium.

Sexton reported that nearly 64 Sanders delegates to the state convention were excluded from the convention process. The Vermont senator only had 33 fewer delegates than Clinton in attendance.

“The credentials minority report is based on the challenge of 64 Sanders delegates. Contrary to the procedures and precedents set by the committee, nearly none of these 64 people were presented with the opportunity to be heard by the committee or to demonstrate that they are registered Democrats," Sexton said.

"Without the opportunity to be heard, no delegate could be stricken. The actions of the credentials committee violates the spirit of the Nevada state delegate plan, which encourages full participation in the democratic process, and it violates the spirit and values of our state and our nation."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/279939-clinton-nets-two-delegates-at-raucous-nev-convention

What a farce ... pick 64 people out, accuse them of not being delegates, not allow them to even present evidence that they are delegates??? What kind of bullshit is that?

Clinton fans, are all about "the rules' until they fuck up, then they cheat and steal.

[KingFlorez]

58. That information was from the most respected political reporter in Nevada

Seems to me like this case is closed anyway, so move on, because I'm not going to argue with you.

[beedle]

59. There were other people there you know?

Their testimony of the events provide a lot more detail as to what actually happened.

Your respected reporter only told one side of the story, as related to her by the executives who cheated in the first place.

[lindysalsagal]

60. The minority report was ignored and the convention closed, so they were refused

Shame on hrc's people.

[BlueStateLib]

25. They didn't show they'd met the voter registration requirements or didn't provide sufficient identif

potential delegates were disqualified because they didn't show they'd met the voter registration requirements or didn't provide sufficient identification information.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Democrats-weigh-in-on-presidential-race-at-Nevada-7468530.php

[reformist2]

26. Maybe we Dems should be in favor of voter IDs and registration requirements for the GE as well?

[CoffeeCat]

30. Sounds like made up bullshit to me

by people who needed to strip Bernie of delegates, so he wouldn't win.

I am a Sanders delegate who had her voter registration switched from Dem to Republican. And I only found out about this switch three days before our District Convention.

I don't believe for one second that their credentials were stripped for legitimate reasons. Not a chance.

If they could switch my registration from Dem to Republican--they are capable of doing it to others in other states.

This election is becoming a perverse joke.

[uponit7771]

35. Or the rules? Or does Sanders supporters really think the 64 delegates are going to make that

... much of a difference in the long run enough to be an incentive to cheat?

This is sad

[felix_numinous]

28. MoveOn has a petition for MSNBC to start reporting election fraud

petitions.moveon.org/sign/msnbc-start-reporting?

Found this article
heavy.com/.../election-fraud-voter-registration-changed-suppression-party- affiliation-sanders-clinton-ca-ny-az-md-pa-what-to-do/?

[bjo59]

31. Hmmm... I was reading a play by play on another site and it looks like

its not over. Yes, 60 delegates still left outside with police guarding the door but apparently the Nevada state party platform was voted down, a motion to remove Lange as chair, Nina Turner showed up with lawyers and people have been hanging in there for over 16 hours. Last info I read was posted maybe half an hour or so ago (?).

[jfern]

37. Funny how not a single Hillary delegate had this problem

They stole it, pure and simple. Election stealing isn't just for Republicans any more.

[senz]

39. No, now it's for DINOs.

[Corporate666]

45. How do you know the BS delegates weren't justifiably denied?

You are ASSuming they are legit just because they said so.

6 of them were ultimately able to verify themselves and were allowed in, which PROVES they were not denying people who were able to verify.

So it's clearly not just a "screw the rules, tell them to go home!" scenario.

Which means either

-Those people were unjustifiably denied

OR

-They were not legit delegates and were justifiably denied.


You're ASSuming the former without any proof. And actually, given that we know 6 were allowed in, the evidence suggests the denials were likely justified.




But I don't want facts to get in the way of an emotional rant, so carry on.

[jfern]

46. They were all delegates at the previous level. Why should they suddenly be denied now?

[Corporate666]

47. How do you know they were delegates at the previous level?

How do you know some people didn't show up claiming to be delegates who weren't? Or that some delegates couldn't make it and send people in their place? Or they knew the name of a legit delegate and tried to get in under that person's name?

What we *do* know is that some of those who were denied were able to verify themselves and were allowed in - so it's not like the party just randomly blocked people for no reason. There was obviously a reason behind it (which was posted by a party higher-up), and there was a process to verify, which some of the denied people were unable to complete.

There is no justification whatsoever - at this time - to claim they were unfairly denied. That is pure speculation.

[senz]

38. I hate cheaters and liars.

[seabeyond]

40. I do to so why are Sanders people trying to cheat? The refusal to follow rules.

[MFM008]

48. THIS IS SIMPLE

FOLLOW ALL THE RULES
and you WONT be disqualified.



NAME__________XXX____________________________________ fill in blanks correctly.

by the correct DATE_______________________________

Repube________________ Democrat___________________

no independent.
Call yourself an independent DONT TRY TO VOTE.
Unless you can do that in your state, but you must FIND OUT before you SHOW UP.

I hope this has been helpful.

[Lil Missy]

49. Bernie lost NV and his thug supporters tried to steal delegates - it didn't work. n/t

[DrDan]

51. Yep - so it must be fraud and cheating

[cui bono]

50. k n r

[seabeyond]

53. Follow the rules. That simple. Not gonna follow the rules, don't expect to be counted.

[kgnu_fan]

55. It is so blatant.

[Lil Missy]

57. No, so the Bernie camp couldn't cheat. n/t