Let's give some DU love to Senator Boxer. She deserves it

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Sady Doyle @sadydoyle
Watched this many times. Still can't believe a white guy yells "who gives a shit, bitch" at Boxer for "progressives"

https://twitter.com/CMPreciado/status/731547437047775233

[Hare Krishna]

1. She deserves credit for many things... however....

she does not deserve any credit for endorsing Clinton.

She is retiring, and wastes her vote on a corporatist, because she is/was related to her.

Next step for Boxer: Lobbyist job that pays her millions.

[MariaThinks]

27. Hillary Clinton has been maligned and harrassed by the republican machine and

progressives who drank the cool aid.

and trump is middle class I guess.

[Hortensis]

56. I liked Wonkette's lay-it-right-out-there description

of what happened, including of Senator Boxer: "the four-foot-nothing liberal grandma lion." She was more than a match for their nastiness, but not for their sheer noise. I wish her a wonderful retirement but am very glad she is at work during this election.

"They did their goddamndest to shut the whole thing down, because how is it even kosher for Hillary Clinton to get more delegates just because she won, when they had stolen it fair and square?"

[realmirage]

64. This response is a good example of why Bernie lost

When, instead of condemning a guy for yelling "bitch" at a person you instead regurgitate talking points. The general public sees that kind of behavior and usually joins the other more civil, mature side. Since, despite what you think, both candidates are liberal, the choice is easy.

[blue neen]

2. Remember when DU sent her roses?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x326948

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Kamala Harris will have big shoes to fill.

[blue neen]

4. Indeed.

[onehandle]

7. Yeah. I remember when Democratic Underground was about Democrats. nt

[QC]

15. And I remember when conservatives weren't welcome here. n/t

[blue neen]

67. Nor were libertatians.

Times have changed, apparently.

[QC]

94. Very true. Rightists of all kinds

are not only here, but demanding that loyal progressives who came here long before them get out.

[msanthrope]

72. Conservatives have always been welcome here. Democrat-bashers, not

so much.

[QC]

134. Yet you have racked up 10 hides by bashing Democrats.

I'm sure your bashing serves a higher good, though, kinda like that Mormon idea of "lying for the Lord."

[frylock]

35. And I remember when Democrats were about democratic principles.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

101. And when liberals didnt give up and stay home when they didnt get their way.

[frylock]

109. Yes, they should just roll over and do what they're told.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

111. I know some of you are new to this, but how it works is we show up MORE if

we dont get our way.

That is when REAL liberals and REAL advocates for change get busy.

[frylock]

118. I'm 50 years old.

I've seen enough to know this system is rigged. I've seen enough to know that my participation is a waste of time and effort. I've seen enough to question why I ever bothered to give a fuck.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

119. It has nothing to do with that, I also believe we are all chumps, that Carlin was right.

But NOW we are faced with this person



having access to these






No responsible person, no sane person, no DECENT person stays home and doesnt work to prevent this.

period

[frylock]

120. Sorry, I will not be shamed into voting for Hillary.

You have a lovely day.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

121. No, you wont because your personal needs, feelings, are more important than all life on the

planet.

Literally.

My goal is to point that out as often as possible, you are not alone, maybe hundreds here have the same attitude.

[frylock]

122. I won't because I don't live in a fucking swing state.

Save your lectures and condescension for someone who gives a fuck.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

123. For someone who gives a fuck? Like I said, you dont care, I do...Liberals care

[frylock]

124. No, I don't care for rigged elections, false choices, or conservative policy.

[wundermaus]

131. I'm 62 and i second your post!

The only reason I give a fuck is when I look into the eyes of of the younger generations and know we left them a world in worse shape than we found it. That just isn't right; so I have to keep trying to make it better before I die. So keep trying too frylock. There are wonder, brilliant, compassionate new members of the human race coming up after us. We old farts need to keep our shoulders to the gears. Faith never gives up!

[progressoid]

125. When was that?

[LisaM]

29. I do!

She deserves them ten times over now.

[Agschmid]

41. Wow what a difference a few years makes.

[blue neen]

42. Yes.

[Renew Deal]

84. I remember

She is a friend to DU and vice versa. Seeing a bunch of Frank's attack her says more about them than about her.

[Vattel]

5. "The price is in body bags, in babies killed," said Barbara Boxer, in opposition to the IWR.

She certainly deserves credit for that.

[dchill]

53. +1,000,001

[Kittycat]

126. She does deserve credit for that, no credit due for standing up

For baked and crooked politics the like of what was forced at the NV convention Saturday. The words were harsh and inappropriate, but people were frustrated. I'm sure it was like a betrayal to many true liberals seeing Boxer up there defending such blatant cheating.

[Surya Gayatri]

6. Major props to Senator Boxer. A fine senator and an admirable woman.

She's got Brooklyn chutzpah, too!

[sheshe2]

8. Awesome Op, DSB.

That twitter feed is eye opening.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

75. TY

[obamanut2012]

9. She is one of THE most progressive members of Congress

Long-time advocate for minorities and the working class.

The misogyny would be bad enough done to ANY woman, but to someone like Boxer?

SHAMEFUL.

[bigtree]

10. virtual roses for the Senator

...one of the nation's all-time best legislators.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Brooklyn's greatest gift to the United States Senate.

[Hare Krishna]

49. That would be Bernie n/t.

He has done a lot in the U.S. Senate.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

54. I believe you are confused.

Barbara Boxer represents the state of California. You could literally fit the entire population of Vermont into one of our fifty four congressional districts.

[Turin_C3PO]

112. That doesn't change the fact

that he's always been on our side, advocating for the mistreated in our society. Boxer's been great too. She and Bernie have been great assets in the war against Reagonmics and bigotry.

[Brother Buzz]

66. Yeah, but Marin County, the land of peacock feathers and hot tubs launched.....

her sterling political career; she was my US Representative for years before she entered the US Senate.

[jillan]

11. Congats Barbara. Your legacy is now an increase in the Bernie or Bust movement.

Isn't that crazy, all the times you stood up for progressiveness, for climate change, for fairness - your behavior in Nevada is how you will be remembered.

Enjoy your retirement.

[Adrahil]

16. How dare they enforce the credentialing rules!

Fuck Bernie or Busters. I'm beyond caring about those assholes.

[obamanut2012]

18. me too, for real

[Fawke Em]

21. We don't care.

Just don't blame us when Clinton loses in the Fall.

[Adrahil]

63. Here's the thing....

They are beyond reasoning. They get outraged over fantasy "fraud" accusations. If the only way they would vote D is if Bernie wins, they were not with us anyway. Fuck 'em.

[puffy socks]

104. Amen!

[Starry Messenger]

32. SAME.

[Number23]

59. + a million billion

[Maru Kitteh]

132. It's important to remember that DU and the interwebs do not = real life.

80-90% of SBS supporters IRL will vote for Hillary in the general with little more than a blink of the eye. Much of the remainder were never Democrats, never going to become Democrats, and a few of them would never vote for a woman anyway. So yeah. Screw their privileged little keisters. The true and thoughtful progressives, liberals and Democrats among them will vote for our nominee.

[all american girl]

89. So, a bunch aof grown ass people try to shout her down

acting like hooligans at a soccer match, and it's her fault...What was she suppose to do, sit in the corner and wait her turn? Unbelievable.

[beachbumbob]

13. The ugliness of some of sanders supporters guarantees super delegates will

Remain true to Hillary....

[polly7]

19. The ugliness of cheating is true to Hilary and her supporters. nt.

[puffy socks]

106. Bernie's

People unregistered as Dems
and cut themselves out of the convention.
Do you see how acting out of emotion creates problems?
No. You instead make up a cheating conspiracy after the Dems were forced to take the vote early due to Bernies supporters nasty behavior.

[Maru Kitteh]

133. Amen that. We don't need supporters that look and act like Trump supporters

running around acting like this crew of miscreants has behaved.

I'm against the idea of supers, but this sure as hell is not going to win SBS any of their support. They are Democrats, and not the born-yesterday kind. They care about the party, and they understand knuckle-draggers like these "supporters" need to be shown the door.

[Adrahil]

14. The way she was treated was disgraceful.

And the silence and acquiescence of some here equally so.

Calling a sitting female Democratic Senator a "bitch" is beyond the pale.

[JudyM]

44. Did you even listen to her speech? What *she* said was so disgraceful that I no longer have any

respect for her.

[Adrahil]

45. Worthy of being called a bitch? NT

[JudyM]

47. That is so freaking immaterial, what she was called - in light of what she said, jeebus.

She supported trashing the democratic process and wants politeness?!

[Adrahil]

48. I see. Well, thanks for your opinion. NT

[MineralMan]

17. That 'bitch" comment was simply reprehensible.

That anyone who would say that is a delegate to a state Democratic convention is a shame. That is not how Democrats behave.

Barbara Boxer has been a mainstay of Democratic ideals for many years. Whoever shouted that ugly thing is a boor and a simpleton, not a Democrat.

[Jitter65]

22. But very indicative and predictable.

[Fawke Em]

20. I'm a member of DU and no.

She doesn't deserve love after her condescending speech.

On edit: I do NOT condone what that man said, but it was probably said in anger. People say awful things in anger and her speech was enough to make anyone mad.

[all american girl]

90. Sorry, he was a grown ass man, learn to control yourself.

[Codeine]

23. Proud that she's my Senator

and proud to have voted for her many times.

[seabeyond]

24. I hear ya, here ya. !!!! Fuckers.

[Number23]

60. + a million trillion

[seabeyond]

61. Woman.....

Always so good to get a wave from you. Lol.

[Number23]

62. I don't know why these folks are surprised that Sanders supporters called a Democratic Senator, one

of the most liberal people in Congress, a bitch.

They've been calling black folks and Hispanics "low information voters" for months now, when they weren't calling us "thugs" and "subhuman" re: Black Lives Matter. They'd called Dolores Huerta a "liar" and they've called John Lewis a "sell out." Who didn't see "bitch" coming??

[seabeyond]

65. For sure. Collective tantrums not getting what they want. Easiest reaction is attack in privilege

and entitlement.

They have shown us over and over.

Sheeeit, it wasn't like we did not read it right from the start. They just keep proving us correct over and over.

[Turin_C3PO]

116. Our last two primaries have had a lot racists come out

of the woodwork in our party. This time it's been Bernie supporters mad that black people and other minorities voted for Clinton. Last time in 2008 primaries it was Clinton supporters dogwhistling crap at Obama. It's shameful.

[tandem5]

25. That's my senator!

[riversedge]

26. Very lovely post. Thank you so much.

[lunamagica]

28. K&R. In support of Sen. Boxer

[tularetom]

30. Of course she didn't deserve treatment like that

But she pretty much trashed her "legacy" by her condescending attitude towards members of her own party.

I'm not shedding any tears for her.

[JudyM]

46. Trashed her legacy is 100% right. Absolutely shameful, what she did, reprehensible.

[BigBearJohn]

70. I have lost all respect for Boxer

[JudyM]

92. Same here, sadly.

[msanthrope]

73. Don't worry....It's not Bernie supporters who will be in charge of her

legacy in the Democratic Party.

[timmymoff]

85. No that will be her newest lobbying firm she will work for.

[JudyM]

93. What it all comes down to, yes... Certainly not the public interest. Cronyism rules our government.

[KingFlorez]

31. She is one of the best Senators we have

Barbara Boxer doesn't deserve to be called names. If anyone is any of those names, it is the loud mouthed, cheap hooligans who yelled at her.

[Blue_In_AK]

33. I've generally liked Barbara Boxer

but I think her condescending tone toward Bernie supporters was uncalled for. Why couldn't she have simply expressed her support for Hillary without the "now, you behave, Bernie people" scolding mother act at the beginning? A lot of us are fully adult, almost as old as she is, and don't need the condescension.

I admit to not being fully up on what went on in Nevada, as I am in Kotzebue today where the Internet is s-l-o-w. When I click on a video, I have to walk away, drink a cup of coffee and come back in 15 minutes. LOL. From what I've seen, though, it didn't look good.

[BootinUp]

36. This was one of the only posts yet

I have seen, that acknowledges needing more information about what transpired from the DU Bernie supporters. Its nice to see. lol.

cheers for that.

Next, you might want to imagine that you were in Sen. Boxer's shoes when reading some more reports like from John Ralston, political reporter in Nevada. Or find other reports from neutral observers.

[joshcryer]

39. Caucases.

Fucking carnivals.

This drama isn't new to Nevada, Obama flipped the vote then, Sanders people are upset they couldn't flip it now.

[Vote2016]

40. Nice person WAY TOO INVESTED in the status quo

[BootinUp]

34. She is one of the best. Period.

The Democratic Party has your back Senator Boxer!!

[joshcryer]

37. If you told me a year ago DU would be this way...

...I would've laughed.

It's asinine. Can't wait for these utterly idiotic primaries to be over. Just a month or so to go.

[SidDithers]

81. +1...

And caucuses are fucking ridiculous.

Sid

[mcar]

38. She has been a great Senator!

[JoePhilly]

43. K&R

[Alfresco]

50. K&R

[Agnosticsherbet]

51. California's most liberal Senator.

We will miss her.

We can only hope that her replacement will be as liberal as Boxer.

[NCTraveler]

52. K&R

[jillan]

55. After everything she has done, esp on climate change, the one thing she will be remembered for is NV

She is retiring. This is her last term. And this is how she chose to end all of her years in public service by pitting Democrats against other Democrats.

The future of the Dem party was introduced to her last nite. This is what they will remember about Barbara Boxer.

Very sad.

[Retrograde]

58. Butbutbut - she doesn't support MY candidate!

It seems like someone in public office can spend decades supporting liberal issues, pushing for liberal legislation, making sure important issues don't get swept under the carpet - everything short of curing cancer and walking on water - and some people will dismiss a lifelong career of public service because she endorses someone other than their candidate of the moment.

I don't think this is the future of the Democratic party. I think its a group of people looking for a cause to push who have latched on to Sanders as this year's pet cause and who know more about how to get in front of cameras, manipulate media, and call attention to themselves than they do about organizing and getting Sanders' programs implemented - which they deserve to be.

It's going to be a long time until November.

[msanthrope]

74. Wait til her convention speech....no Bernie Bristol will be allowed to disrupt. nt

[Amimnoch]

86. The nerve and audacity of having her own opinion.

AND expressing it! Outrageous I tell you.. Outrageous!

[aikoaiko]

57. Boooooooo, Barbara Boxer. She did not handle boos well.

[LisaM]

105. Actually, she handled it very well.

She laughed and she didn't back down. Perfect response from a great Senator.

[aikoaiko]

114. If only she had laughed and stuck to her script.

Then I would have respected her. But to go off on Bernie supporters without acknowledging the problems of the NV convention and that there were legit concerns made her look like an angry and entitled partisan.

[R B Garr]

68. K&!R!

She's been a great spokesperson for her constituents and all Democrats.

[hellofromreddit]

69. I think she's been positive overall.

She sure did end it poorly, though.

[Prism]

71. She screwed up

Everything about her statements was wrongly suited to the occasion.

I still like her, but she didn't understand the moment.

That's on her.

I'd like to say it's a learning opportunity, but I'm not sure the people in power are capable of learning at this late date.

[Gothmog]

76. I stand with Senator Boxer

[NCTraveler]

77. Another K.

Truly disgusting what some are saying about her. Boxer doesn't take shit from bullies and assholes.

[Prism]

82. Or the poor and left out

Who's the asshole in your world?

[NCTraveler]

95. I can tell you Barbara Boxer doesn't make the list.

I get that she makes your list.

[Prism]

96. I'm an actual Californian

So I get to have an actual list.

[NCTraveler]

97. That makes no sense. I get that you stand in oppositon to Boxer. It just isn't my thing.

I'm not silencing you or saying anything offensive. Just the way it is.

No clue what being "an actual Californian" has to do with it. I did get a chuckle. Thanks.

[Prism]

98. *theater whisper*

Boxer's not on the ballot anymore.

[NCTraveler]

99. I'm aware of that. What does it have to do with my comments?

She sure made your list. lol

[Prism]

100. She didn't make my list!

Because my list involves voting, and she's not on it.

I'm sneaky sneaky.

[NCTraveler]

107. Glad you still have great respect and admiration for here.

She is a great progressive.

[Prism]

115. It's possible to like someone and dislike their actions

I don't get this place. I can think she made a shitty speech but still think she was a decent senator.

But whatever. Kamala on deck, yo.

[NCTraveler]

117. "It's possible to like someone and dislike their actions"

Agree to that point. Never knew it was in contention.

"I don't get this place."

It's not that difficult to figure out. With anonymous posters it isn't to be "gotten" at all times.

[LexVegas]

78. Rec. Boxer smacking down Berniebros...they fucked with the wrong lady. nt

[still_one]

79. Kick & Rec!!!

[SidDithers]

80. DU rec...nt

Sid

[workinclasszero]

83. Kudos to Senator Boxer!

Thanks for facing down the mob!

[Amimnoch]

87. K&R. Her retirement will be a loss to the Senate and the people. eom

[all american girl]

88. B-Box Rocks!!!!!!!!!!

That little man would run with his tails between his legs if he got anywhere along with B-Box....just a look for her...don't mess with her

[NorthCarolina]

91. Who gives a shit

there are much more fish to fry in this election than to make campaign issues out of what one voter someplace says or shouts, as if somehow that lone soul speaks for the entirety of Bernie supporters as well as the candidate himself. It's just more misdirection to keep the masses from talking of (a) issues, and (b) Democratic Party corruption.

[riversedge]

102. Well, if the Sanders fans had acted like adults instead of shouting down a good Democratic

Senator, then we have not have had this issue. As it is--so glad Boxer hit back at the bullies.

[JDPriestly]

103. Barbara Boxer's speech at the Nevada convention was

unintelligent and overly emotional.

I have always liked, supported and voted for her.

But hearing that speech, I lost confidence in her. She was carried away.

The convention in Nevada was poorly organized. When the votes are only 30 apart on a major issue, you do not hold a voice vote. You have to count the votes when the voters are that evenly divided.

Never saw such a poorly organized event.

The Hillary supporters in Nevada look like fools. And that includes Barbara Boxer.

Anyone with any experience in dealing with people or organizing could have done a better job.

After seeing the debacle at the Nevada convention, I question whether Hillary has the organizing ability and social skills to be president. She, after all, is responsible for giving guidance to her supporters in Nevada.

What a scene. It made all Democrats including both Barbara Boxer and Hillary look incompetent.

I'm a woman. I am not being sexist. If my daughters had been in charge, or if I had been in charge, or if my mother or sisters had been in charge, we would have met with people on the other side of the nomination fence and discussed how to hold a fair convention at which all opinions could be expressed.

That was a shameful show. A black eye for all Democrats but mostly for the Hillaryites who lead the show.

For shame.

[Turin_C3PO]

108. She's a great progressive and consistently on our side...

I so think she was a little condescending to Bernie voters at the convention. HOWEVER, that in now way justifies the treatment she received, the booing but especially the misogynistic name calling. I know this doesn't represent the majority of Bernie supporters and we need to "purge" the misogynists from our movement.

[Kittycat]

127. Start with Brock the ultimate Bro.

[zappaman]

110. Kick for my senator!

[azurnoir]

113. so it's all about the BernIie Boyz is it or at least someone who we're

told is a Bernie Boy, lol

[Maru Kitteh]

128. Cheers and gratitude to Senator Boxer!

[Betty Karlson]

129. No she doesn't. She put her foot in her mouth, Madelein Albright style!

[Iliyah]

130. K & R