2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWonkette: Sanders Fans Take Massive Dump On Nevada Democratic Convention Floor
Last edited Mon May 16, 2016, 02:28 PM - Edit history (1)
After hours spent trying to figure out why Bernie Sanders delegates were screaming that the Democrats had stolen the (Democratic!) convention, were still a little hazy, and Jon Ralston has yet to weigh in at his blog. But heres what seems to have happened, as near as we can tell.
Hillary Clinton won Nevadas caucuses by almost five points, and both candidates were awarded delegates to the county conventions. Bernie Sanderss delegates out-appeared Hillary Clintons delegates at the county conventions, where delegates would be awarded for the state convention. (This process is so dumb you guys. So fucking dumb. JUST GIVE THEM THE DELEGATES BASED ON HOW MANY CAUCUS VOTES THEY GOT JESUS H FUCKING CHRIST.) But at the state convention, about an equal number of Hillary Clintons folks showed up as did Bernie Sanderss. And of the Bernie folks who showed up, sixty had unregistered as Democrats. Whoops that meant they were not allowed to vote at the DEMOCRATIC convention! So fixed! Many corruptions! Oh god I hate everyone.
So then they went insane. They screamed at Barbara Boxer that she was a sellout bitch and did their best to boo the four-foot-nothing liberal grandma lion off the stage. They did their goddamndest to shut the whole thing down, because how is it even kosher for Hillary Clinton to get more delegates just because she won, when they had stolen it fair and square?
Afterwards, they posted the chairs address online, called Barbara Boxer a neolib witch when did we all become neolib? I think when Barack Obama forgot to put all of Congress in Guantanamo and probably threatened to primary Elizabeth Warren again, because someone somewhere in the world had the gall not to do what they said, when they said it.
Take a moment, if you please, to imagine the opposite scenario: that Bernie wins the caucus, Hillary supporters show up when Bernie fans dont at some secondary event, and she wins all the delegates. I think we might (rightfully!) have a lake-full of steaming pigshit on our hands. But in this scenario the one where reality is happening not being able to overturn the democratic results via machine chicanery is, in Bernie supporters fever dreams, the day democracy died...
read more: http://wonkette.com/601848/bernie-sanders-fans-take-massive-dump-on-nevada-democratic-convention-floor
NewImproved Deal
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)other than the Democrats currently in office. Frankly, she irritates me right back, too much to read, but she did nail them this time.
Lol. Bigtree, thanks for the article. I've never seen Hillary look so good. Wonder if Bill is getting a copy of that picture.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)pkdu
(3,977 posts)woken up from them and are still throwing 27 dollars into Tad Devines retirements fund. Those that have woken , are intent on scorched earth.
bigtree
(85,989 posts)...they make the PUMAs look like a Sunday reading group.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)Actor Wendell Pierce, who is in Atlanta shooting a film, was arrested after allegedly attacking a Bernie Sanders supporter, according to TMZ.
TMZ said Pierce, at the Loews hotel last night, met with a woman and her boyfriend in the lobby. They supposedly had a conversation that went political. Pierce is a Hillary Clinton supporter. The woman was supposedly a supporter of Bernie Sanders. Pierce allegedly pushed the boyfriend and went after the woman, grabbing her hair and smacking her in the head.
The couple called the cops, who arrested Pierce for battery. He posted a $1,000 bond and was released, TMZ said.
http://radiotvtalk.blog.ajc.com/2016/05/15/tmz-wendell-pierce-the-wire-arrested-for-allegedly-attacking-bernie-sanders-supporter/
w4rma
(31,700 posts)What's more surprising is the perception on the Democratic sidenearly twice as many respondents viewed Clinton's supporters as very aggressive (30 percent) as said the same for Sanders supporters (16 percent). While women were more likely than men to see Trump supporters as aggressive, the opposite was true for both Clinton and Sanders.
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/online-incivility-study-bernie-bro/
bigtree
(85,989 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Response to bigtree (Original post)
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HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)And we're done. This right here sums up the Clinton campaign thus far. Paint Bernie supporters as angry white men spewing hatred and vitriol toward the poor defenseless children, women, and minorities. Didn't bother reading the rest of the article. The videos don't lie. Hillary's surrogates in the DNC tried (and succeeded) to swing the convention in her favor. This party is fractured and it is entirely the fault of the DNC.
PufPuf23
(8,767 posts)the questionable results be it possible voting irregularities or exit polls is the coincidence
that the problems always break in the favor of Hillary Clinton.
This trend is compounded from the perspective of the Sanders supporters by the fact that the DNC and Democratic leadership and MSM treated the candidacy of Hillary Clinton as an incumbent and presumptive nominee from the start o0f the campaign, no one expected Sanders to be so successful.
Then there is the odd fact that Hillary Clinton draws small crowds at public events while Sanders frequently draws crowds in the 10s of thousands.
The supporters of Sanders and Clinton and her campaign demean Sanders and the Sanders supporters; this started from the Clinton campaign (as did the negative campaigning in 2008, recall the hint that started birtherism was from the mouth of Hillary Clinton and the PUMA idea was also from the Clinton campaign) but there is plenty of ammunition to demean Clinton from the left without going to the right wing or prior to 2001.
People are frustrated.
Violence is unacceptable, IMO disruption is situational. One's opinion may vary.
I agree that the DNC and Democratic leadership has poorly handled the process to pick a Democratic POTUS nominee. Why bother if a slate of candidates and platforms is not presented and fairly assessed by possible Democratic voters?
mcar
(42,302 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)just an attempt to pretend that there is any legitimate reason for this deranged, ridiculous behavior that these people have been engaging in MONTHS before any one ever voted in a single damned primary.
bigtree
(85,989 posts)...this amounts to campaigning against our presumptive nominee and the Sanders campaign has just enough rope to try and trip up the party on our advance to the convention and the general election against Trump.
Enough of these diversions. It's time to call this anti-Hillary effort for what it is. Part and parcel of the republican campaign against her, more than often using the same rhetoric and the same disruptive behavior. Very few Democrats are going to follow these people down to the depths they're diving.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)So until we know, what's the point?
bigtree
(85,989 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)They did their goddamndest to shut the whole thing down, because how is it even kosher for Hillary Clinton to get more delegates just because she won, when they had stolen it fair and square?
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Was genuinely shocked (which I didn't think would happen again in this campaign) when I saw the lunacy in Nevada. Bernie's most extreme supporters are vicious thugs who do not belong in Democratic politics. They'd fit right in on the other side, though.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)You should shorten it or DU could get in trouble.
riversedge
(70,197 posts)apcalc
(4,463 posts)Don't follow the rules, then complain when someone stops them from doing just whatever the hell they want.
Biaviians
(167 posts)bigtree
(85,989 posts)...got to nip that in the bud.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)B Calm
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