2016 Postmortem
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vintx
(1,748 posts)The total denial that Her supporters are in is amazing.
I wonder if any of them will start waking up.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)They are invested in their candidate. They NEED any "wins" that come, dirty or not.
They don't even care that this is destroying the party- they believe anyone not with their candidate should not be in the party.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Bingo. That's their position, loud and clear.
The Fight Continues all the way to the convention and beyond!
NewImproved Deal
(534 posts)brush
(53,726 posts)Sanders supporters clear as day.
I was there. He lost and last night's results reflect what happened on election day.
The spoiled sport Sanders supporters last night just don't want to accept what happened on election day.
Chezboo
(230 posts)brush
(53,726 posts)They tried to change the election day results at the county convention.
It was corrected last night at the state convention.
He lost on election day. It was clear as day that Clinton supporters outnumbered Sanders supporters.
kiva
(4,373 posts)I'm surprised that, as a delegate, you didn't know that the delegates continue to be counted at a county then the state level in Nevada.
brush
(53,726 posts)Those clear results were challenged at the county convention but were upheld justly last night at the state convention.
Sanders lost on election day.
It was clear as day.
His sour grapes supporters were unsuccessful last night in their attempt to change that.
And it's silly really, as we're only talking about a swing of 2 or 3 delegates, as if that's going to catch him up with Clinton's near-300 delegate lead.
kiva
(4,373 posts)that when a Hillary delegate called for a recount at the county convention and that motion was voted on, and defeated by a vote. And yet when a Bernie delegate made exactly the same motion last night Roberta Lange refused to allow a vote. Sour grapes? Nope, just a call for fairness.
brush
(53,726 posts)because of the disruptions Sanders supporters were causing.
They had to conclude it with no further votes.
Clinton clearly won on election day and last night was the second time, the first being at the county convention, that Sanders supporters tried to steal it.
They lost on election day. I was there. it was clear.
And last night's protests were silly really as it would be just a swing of 2 or 3 delegates, hardly enough to overcome Clintons near-300 delegate lead.
They really need to get control of their tempers. They lost on election day.
kiva
(4,373 posts)we were told after 9pm that the time that had been paid for by the Democratic State party had ended - the convention was supposed to end at 6pm - and that the executive committee was negotiating with the Paris to extend our time.
If you had been at the county convention you would have been aware that a Hillary delegate made a motion to do a recount and the vote was allowed to take place.
Since you not in either place, I don't understand why anyone should take your opinions as fact
brush
(53,726 posts)And I was there on election day where Clinton supporters clearly outnumbered Sanders supporters.
I've been following John Ralston's twitter feed as well. I assume you know who he is. He faults the Sanders supporters disruptions.
It's silly really as it's only a 2 or 3 delegate swing, hardly enough to make up her near-300 delegate lead.
They need to get over themselves.
He lost on election day.
kiva
(4,373 posts)that their rental time had expired. I have since read that the hotel security informed the executive committee that they couldn't guarantee security and that's why Metro was called - however, the executive committee is the one floating this explanation and, since their rule-breaking behavior is at the root of the problem, their credibility isn't exactly the highest.
And yes, I know who Jon Ralston is - I've liked much of what he's written, but it doesn't mean I always agree with him.
Finally, why do you insist on coming back to the count on the initial caucus day? If that was the final, undisputed count, there would be no need for a county or state convention delegates.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)Were you a witness to this conversation you say took place between the hotel and convention leaders? Are you a member of Dem leadership?
None of the above and your claim is just so much trollishness.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)..she ignored voice votes, motions from the floor, acted as a political machine thug and simply did whatever she wanted to. And let's not go into the shit pulled by Harry Reid on electon day. Shutting down a convention against the rules before business concluded and calling those upset "spoiled sports" is a bit unfair.
brush
(53,726 posts)supporters disruptions. No further votes could be held.
They lost on election day. The disruptions were just an attempt to change Clinton's election day win.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)A statement from the hotel? Video of this conversation? Something?
kiva
(4,373 posts)The convention was scheduled to end at 6pm and the Paris told the executive committee at some point that the rental time had expired. I don't know the exact time, but we were informed some time after 9pm that the committee was negotiating with the hotel to extend the time.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)The more they do these things the less likely I am to vote in Nov. if she is the nominee.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)their party in time to vote for Bernie?
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)GOLF? A "footwedge" is not a club in the bag! Mis-remembering how many strokes you took to put the ball in the hole ... Does NOT WIN The Hole!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But the top tier of the machine is still in denial mode. Looked at videos and all this is looking ugly
Henhouse
(646 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)with the process could go so totally derp over such a basic rule. It's nearly impossible to believe.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)If it's OK to do it to people coming to your convention, or primary for that matter (I'm looking at you, NY) why isn't it OK for the general election?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)or didn't you know that has a higher standard?
reformist2
(9,841 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)I mean, surely she will do that, right?
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)nt
dana_b
(11,546 posts)Listen to their anger - this was a damn crime!
Roberta Lange: Makes a motion. Seconds her own motion. Passes her motion. Runs off the stage. Then the police is called in and everyone is forced to leave or get arrested otherwise.
https://twitter.com/BernieVolunteer/status/731750706193932288
Sorry - I don't know how to directly post videos from twitter
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)Party Destroyed Itself". I can see it now.