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NV Democratic Credentials Committee Co-Chair: Action To Exclude Sanders Supporters "Violate ... (Original Post) AzDar May 2016 OP
This is not going away vintx May 2016 #1
It's not a matter of waking up Hydra May 2016 #4
They don't even care that this is destroying the party- they believe anyone not with their candidate 2banon May 2016 #8
Happily surprised to see some resistance to the thuggery of the Clinton Machine and Las Vegas Mafia NewImproved Deal May 2016 #2
It's created bullshit. I caucused in Vegas on election day and Clinton supporters outnumbered . . . brush May 2016 #6
Were you there for the second round when Sanders won? nt Chezboo May 2016 #7
You mean at the county convention? brush May 2016 #12
It's not a one step process. kiva May 2016 #14
Again, Clinton delegates clearly outnumbered Sanders delegates on election day brush May 2016 #16
Perhaps you were unaware kiva May 2016 #18
Perhaps you're unaware that the Hotel where the convention was held told them to shut it down . . . brush May 2016 #23
If you had been at the Paris you would know that kiva May 2016 #31
Were they not asked to shut it down because of the disruptions? brush May 2016 #34
We were told that the Paris had informed the committee kiva May 2016 #36
Got a link to back that up? Doremus May 2016 #33
The BS is what your state party chair did last night.. tokenlib May 2016 #24
The hotel where the convention was held told them to shut it down because of the Sanders . . . brush May 2016 #25
please provide some documentation of your assertion. grasswire May 2016 #28
They can't. kiva May 2016 #32
"Reinstate the 58" aspirant May 2016 #3
... AzDar May 2016 #5
That's really cute. Why, it even rhymes! COLGATE4 May 2016 #29
The election shenanigans are going to backfire on them Marrah_G May 2016 #9
Are you talinking about the shennigans of the people who did not register in time or change Jitter65 May 2016 #11
Ya Thinkkkk These People Are In A BUBBLE! Winning By Such Means Is NOT WINNING! Anyone Here Play CorporatistNation May 2016 #13
1968...Philadelphia will be a hoot nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #10
From your article.. People who were not registered as Dems 14 days ago are disqualified... Henhouse May 2016 #15
Interesting how people who were otherwise very involved snort May 2016 #22
Yeah. That's happened MANY, MANY times during this Primary... commonly known as a PURGE. AzDar May 2016 #35
The Dem Establishment is basically endorsing restrictive Republican registration and voter ID laws. reformist2 May 2016 #17
Nonsense, the requirement is to act as a delegate CreekDog May 2016 #19
Maybe we should hold all voters to that "higher standard." reformist2 May 2016 #21
So, is someone going to post the press release when Hillary chastizes them for that? pdsimdars May 2016 #20
Lack of preperation is a Sanders hallmark. nt Buzz cook May 2016 #26
Here's the Historic Moment when Democratic Party Destroyed Itself: dana_b May 2016 #27
Yep. I imagine history books will be full of it. "The Day the Democratic COLGATE4 May 2016 #30
 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
1. This is not going away
Sun May 15, 2016, 02:40 PM
May 2016

The total denial that Her supporters are in is amazing.

I wonder if any of them will start waking up.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
4. It's not a matter of waking up
Sun May 15, 2016, 02:57 PM
May 2016

They are invested in their candidate. They NEED any "wins" that come, dirty or not.

They don't even care that this is destroying the party- they believe anyone not with their candidate should not be in the party.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
8. They don't even care that this is destroying the party- they believe anyone not with their candidate
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

should not be in the party.


Bingo. That's their position, loud and clear.

The Fight Continues all the way to the convention and beyond!

brush

(53,726 posts)
6. It's created bullshit. I caucused in Vegas on election day and Clinton supporters outnumbered . . .
Sun May 15, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

Sanders supporters clear as day.

I was there. He lost and last night's results reflect what happened on election day.

The spoiled sport Sanders supporters last night just don't want to accept what happened on election day.

brush

(53,726 posts)
12. You mean at the county convention?
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:06 PM
May 2016

They tried to change the election day results at the county convention.

It was corrected last night at the state convention.

He lost on election day. It was clear as day that Clinton supporters outnumbered Sanders supporters.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
14. It's not a one step process.
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:09 PM
May 2016

I'm surprised that, as a delegate, you didn't know that the delegates continue to be counted at a county then the state level in Nevada.

brush

(53,726 posts)
16. Again, Clinton delegates clearly outnumbered Sanders delegates on election day
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016

Those clear results were challenged at the county convention but were upheld justly last night at the state convention.

Sanders lost on election day.

It was clear as day.

His sour grapes supporters were unsuccessful last night in their attempt to change that.

And it's silly really, as we're only talking about a swing of 2 or 3 delegates, as if that's going to catch him up with Clinton's near-300 delegate lead.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
18. Perhaps you were unaware
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:23 PM
May 2016

that when a Hillary delegate called for a recount at the county convention and that motion was voted on, and defeated by a vote. And yet when a Bernie delegate made exactly the same motion last night Roberta Lange refused to allow a vote. Sour grapes? Nope, just a call for fairness.

brush

(53,726 posts)
23. Perhaps you're unaware that the Hotel where the convention was held told them to shut it down . . .
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

because of the disruptions Sanders supporters were causing.

They had to conclude it with no further votes.

Clinton clearly won on election day and last night was the second time, the first being at the county convention, that Sanders supporters tried to steal it.

They lost on election day. I was there. it was clear.

And last night's protests were silly really as it would be just a swing of 2 or 3 delegates, hardly enough to overcome Clintons near-300 delegate lead.

They really need to get control of their tempers. They lost on election day.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
31. If you had been at the Paris you would know that
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

we were told after 9pm that the time that had been paid for by the Democratic State party had ended - the convention was supposed to end at 6pm - and that the executive committee was negotiating with the Paris to extend our time.

If you had been at the county convention you would have been aware that a Hillary delegate made a motion to do a recount and the vote was allowed to take place.

Since you not in either place, I don't understand why anyone should take your opinions as fact

brush

(53,726 posts)
34. Were they not asked to shut it down because of the disruptions?
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:10 PM
May 2016

And I was there on election day where Clinton supporters clearly outnumbered Sanders supporters.

I've been following John Ralston's twitter feed as well. I assume you know who he is. He faults the Sanders supporters disruptions.

It's silly really as it's only a 2 or 3 delegate swing, hardly enough to make up her near-300 delegate lead.

They need to get over themselves.

He lost on election day.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
36. We were told that the Paris had informed the committee
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

that their rental time had expired. I have since read that the hotel security informed the executive committee that they couldn't guarantee security and that's why Metro was called - however, the executive committee is the one floating this explanation and, since their rule-breaking behavior is at the root of the problem, their credibility isn't exactly the highest.

And yes, I know who Jon Ralston is - I've liked much of what he's written, but it doesn't mean I always agree with him.

Finally, why do you insist on coming back to the count on the initial caucus day? If that was the final, undisputed count, there would be no need for a county or state convention delegates.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
33. Got a link to back that up?
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:09 PM
May 2016

Were you a witness to this conversation you say took place between the hotel and convention leaders? Are you a member of Dem leadership?

None of the above and your claim is just so much trollishness.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
24. The BS is what your state party chair did last night..
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:35 PM
May 2016

..she ignored voice votes, motions from the floor, acted as a political machine thug and simply did whatever she wanted to. And let's not go into the shit pulled by Harry Reid on electon day. Shutting down a convention against the rules before business concluded and calling those upset "spoiled sports" is a bit unfair.

brush

(53,726 posts)
25. The hotel where the convention was held told them to shut it down because of the Sanders . . .
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:38 PM
May 2016

supporters disruptions. No further votes could be held.

They lost on election day. The disruptions were just an attempt to change Clinton's election day win.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
28. please provide some documentation of your assertion.
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

A statement from the hotel? Video of this conversation? Something?

kiva

(4,373 posts)
32. They can't.
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:05 PM
May 2016

The convention was scheduled to end at 6pm and the Paris told the executive committee at some point that the rental time had expired. I don't know the exact time, but we were informed some time after 9pm that the committee was negotiating with the hotel to extend the time.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
9. The election shenanigans are going to backfire on them
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

The more they do these things the less likely I am to vote in Nov. if she is the nominee.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
11. Are you talinking about the shennigans of the people who did not register in time or change
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:06 PM
May 2016

their party in time to vote for Bernie?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
13. Ya Thinkkkk These People Are In A BUBBLE! Winning By Such Means Is NOT WINNING! Anyone Here Play
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

GOLF? A "footwedge" is not a club in the bag! Mis-remembering how many strokes you took to put the ball in the hole ... Does NOT WIN The Hole!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. 1968...Philadelphia will be a hoot
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:05 PM
May 2016

But the top tier of the machine is still in denial mode. Looked at videos and all this is looking ugly

Henhouse

(646 posts)
15. From your article.. People who were not registered as Dems 14 days ago are disqualified...
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016
The Nevada Democratic Party said that 58 Sanders supporters were denied because they either were not registered Democrat voters by May 1 or their information (address, date of birth, name, etc.) could not be verfied.

snort

(2,334 posts)
22. Interesting how people who were otherwise very involved
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

with the process could go so totally derp over such a basic rule. It's nearly impossible to believe.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
17. The Dem Establishment is basically endorsing restrictive Republican registration and voter ID laws.
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:20 PM
May 2016

If it's OK to do it to people coming to your convention, or primary for that matter (I'm looking at you, NY) why isn't it OK for the general election?
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
20. So, is someone going to post the press release when Hillary chastizes them for that?
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:28 PM
May 2016

I mean, surely she will do that, right?

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
27. Here's the Historic Moment when Democratic Party Destroyed Itself:
Sun May 15, 2016, 03:41 PM
May 2016

Listen to their anger - this was a damn crime!

Roberta Lange: Makes a motion. Seconds her own motion. Passes her motion. Runs off the stage. Then the police is called in and everyone is forced to leave or get arrested otherwise.

https://twitter.com/BernieVolunteer/status/731750706193932288

Sorry - I don't know how to directly post videos from twitter

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
30. Yep. I imagine history books will be full of it. "The Day the Democratic
Sun May 15, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016

Party Destroyed Itself". I can see it now.

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