2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI don't want to vote or a candidate that will put us into a war with Iran
Iraq is a disaster and we are still dealing with the repercussions from It. The country itself is decimated and the people are still dealing with atrocities because of us. We all know that we had no good reason to go into Iraq and seeing what has happened weighs heavily on me even though I was totally against going in their to begin with.
I cannot come to grips with going into Iran or taking aggressive military action against them. It will involve many civilian deaths.....again. We always worry about us, but what about the innocent in the other countries.
I have heard "experience, experience, experience". Yes Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and she chose hawkish solutions for issues in the M.E. and Central America. Her record, experience, resume and even words have told me what to expect.
How do you justify a vote for a candidate that you know will launch another pre-emotive strike against a country with possible nukes and cause countless innocent lives lost?
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Hillary is a warhawk.
Conflict is inevitable with her
in the oval office.
War is good for Wall St.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Clinton will honor Obama's agreements with Iran.
timmymoff
(1,947 posts)AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)Obama specifically didn't want him involved, and Hillary relied on him anyway, which in no small part led to the war in Libya and all its catastrophic consequences.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)It's one dollar - one vote. And unless you're chummy with superdelegates, you don't really have a say.

This is America, Dude. Learn the rules!
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Lindsey Graham?
Seeinghope
(786 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Seeinghope
(786 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)
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(2,064 posts)I imagine Team Hillary is well positioned to maximize profits in the event of a war with Iran...
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Seeinghope
(786 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)or some other violent dystopian future. We have the power of CHOICE to imagine another future. The military can be used to protect the planet against those who would kill the oceans, forests and mountains for their own profit. There are other dangers out there besides fighting amongst ourselves.
If we can go to the Moon we can make hazmat robots to clean up danger zones and oceans, and plant food forests and replenish the soil so it can hold water, we must preserve what lands and water we can. But people who actually believe in Last Days Armageddon scenarios are allowing the Earth to be destroyed, and actually contributing to it, because they have given up imagining another scenario. It's sick--and I don't want to support this sickness.
Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Kissinger's buddy who voted in favor of the Iraq War vs. a stupid, belligerent clown.
Where is the lesser in that evil?