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Seeinghope

(786 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:31 PM May 2016

I don't want to vote or a candidate that will put us into a war with Iran

Iraq is a disaster and we are still dealing with the repercussions from It. The country itself is decimated and the people are still dealing with atrocities because of us. We all know that we had no good reason to go into Iraq and seeing what has happened weighs heavily on me even though I was totally against going in their to begin with.

I cannot come to grips with going into Iran or taking aggressive military action against them. It will involve many civilian deaths.....again. We always worry about us, but what about the innocent in the other countries.

I have heard "experience, experience, experience". Yes Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and she chose hawkish solutions for issues in the M.E. and Central America. Her record, experience, resume and even words have told me what to expect.

How do you justify a vote for a candidate that you know will launch another pre-emotive strike against a country with possible nukes and cause countless innocent lives lost?

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I don't want to vote or a candidate that will put us into a war with Iran (Original Post) Seeinghope May 2016 OP
Or Syria, or any country. Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #1
Then don't vote for Trump. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #2
Like she honored him with her server? timmymoff May 2016 #3
and Sid Blumenthal AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #4
Exactly, people are too myopic to see it though. Hoyt May 2016 #5
Sorry, but you don't get to decide RufusTFirefly May 2016 #6
Killing people is not a progresseive value. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #7
By the way, who called for a "pre-emotive strike against a country with possible nukes," other than Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #8
Bush in Iraq Seeinghope May 2016 #10
Is he running? Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #11
You asked "who callED..... ". past tense Seeinghope May 2016 #13
Sorry, I was joking. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #17
Maybe bahrbearian May 2016 #16
But think of the PROFITS!!!!!! Yurovsky May 2016 #9
Suggest changing your thread title from "I don't want to" to "I won't" EndElectoral May 2016 #12
That is pretty much where I am at. BUT I have a terrible fear of Trump in office. Seeinghope May 2016 #14
I don't want to follow anyone who believes in Armageddon felix_numinous May 2016 #15
It will be a painful choice for anti-war activists. Dems to Win May 2016 #18

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
1. Or Syria, or any country.
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:33 PM
May 2016

Hillary is a warhawk.

Conflict is inevitable with her
in the oval office.

War is good for Wall St.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
4. and Sid Blumenthal
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

Obama specifically didn't want him involved, and Hillary relied on him anyway, which in no small part led to the war in Libya and all its catastrophic consequences.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
6. Sorry, but you don't get to decide
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

It's one dollar - one vote. And unless you're chummy with superdelegates, you don't really have a say.


This is America, Dude. Learn the rules!

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. Killing people is not a progresseive value.
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:42 PM
May 2016
“What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or in the holy of liberty or democracy?” Mohandas K. Gandhi

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
8. By the way, who called for a "pre-emotive strike against a country with possible nukes," other than
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

Lindsey Graham?

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
9. But think of the PROFITS!!!!!!
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016

I imagine Team Hillary is well positioned to maximize profits in the event of a war with Iran...

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
15. I don't want to follow anyone who believes in Armageddon
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:50 PM
May 2016

or some other violent dystopian future. We have the power of CHOICE to imagine another future. The military can be used to protect the planet against those who would kill the oceans, forests and mountains for their own profit. There are other dangers out there besides fighting amongst ourselves.

If we can go to the Moon we can make hazmat robots to clean up danger zones and oceans, and plant food forests and replenish the soil so it can hold water, we must preserve what lands and water we can. But people who actually believe in Last Days Armageddon scenarios are allowing the Earth to be destroyed, and actually contributing to it, because they have given up imagining another scenario. It's sick--and I don't want to support this sickness.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
18. It will be a painful choice for anti-war activists.
Mon May 16, 2016, 03:40 PM
May 2016

Kissinger's buddy who voted in favor of the Iraq War vs. a stupid, belligerent clown.

Where is the lesser in that evil?

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