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brooklynite

(94,350 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:14 PM May 2016

Berniecrat Lucy Flores opines on the Nevada events...

I understand and share the frustration that many progressives in Nevada feel, but there were actions over the weekend and at the Democratic convention that very clearly crossed the line.

Progressives need to speak out against those: making threats against someone’s life, defacing private property, and hurling vulgar language at our female leaders. Regardless of whether you agree with the leadership of our Chairwoman Roberta Lange, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do her actions warrant being harassed, insulted with misogynistic vulgarities and or threatened in any way.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/05/16/1527115/-Sanders-supporter-Lucy-Flores-condemns-harassment-and-misogynistic-vulgarities-at-NV-Convention

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Berniecrat Lucy Flores opines on the Nevada events... (Original Post) brooklynite May 2016 OP
Checking .... MH1 May 2016 #1
They need to leave one big space for Bernie. auntpurl May 2016 #33
It won't be much longer now. The wait is almost over. NurseJackie May 2016 #36
Usurpation of democracy deserves far more than vulgarity Prism May 2016 #2
Gotta love the "Plantation" speak you employ here.... Don't want to leave out POC when you're being bettyellen May 2016 #3
+1/ That is our Prism. I expect nothing less. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #5
The "Plantation" speak is intended to mock, not exalt, that way of speaking JonLeibowitz May 2016 #6
Sarcasm was not directed to the "Plantation" owner but to those suffering under him.... bettyellen May 2016 #7
You completely misunderstood the post, then. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #9
Wrong context- he is mocking "the aggrieved" party- a woman, using language used to mock slaves. bettyellen May 2016 #14
Pretending not to see the point is bvf May 2016 #21
Could be stupidity, confirmation bias, Ghost Dog May 2016 #32
Swing and a miss... truebrit71 May 2016 #11
flew over YOUR head. bettyellen May 2016 #15
Um no, that would be YOU completely missing the point... truebrit71 May 2016 #19
Prism has been flagged for review. revmclaren May 2016 #30
Yep. sheshe2 May 2016 #13
would you look at the bullshit excuses for this? bettyellen May 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler May 2016 #8
Not sure if you can see the posts, but there is a lot of faux outrage directed your way. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #22
Lucy Flores... This I can respect. No excuses. No statement, provoked. seabeyond May 2016 #4
The die is (being) cast. MoonRiver May 2016 #10
No ONE has proven any vulgar insults. And no voice on a video is not proof. Skwmom May 2016 #12
So Lucy Flores, a candidate for Congress is less informed than you are? brooklynite May 2016 #16
Was Flores even there? Amazing how her statement DOES NOT provide ANY details of Skwmom May 2016 #23
Were you? I mean, I don't know either way, so were you there? lunamagica May 2016 #26
so a congressional candidate and SBS supporter is lying now? WOW. bettyellen May 2016 #18
So you don't even believe Lucy Flores? n/t pnwmom May 2016 #20
Do I trust that a politician is a truth teller? NO. I have seen so many lies this cycle that I Skwmom May 2016 #24
Bernie has been a politician for decades. So then there's no reason to trust him. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #27
Bernie is one of those rare once in a lifetime candidates. Skwmom May 2016 #28
Dream on. If he accomplished anything as President it would be through compromise pnwmom May 2016 #29
B.S. First of all he wouldn't appoint stupid crooked corporate hacks. Skwmom May 2016 #31
Your obsession with dear leader is worrisome. JaneyVee May 2016 #35
The cult of personality is bananas alcibiades_mystery May 2016 #37
I read her statement. It included NO discussion to explain what the people were upset about. Skwmom May 2016 #25
When your candidate herself chose to make hateful claims of LGBT apathy toward AIDS which were Bluenorthwest May 2016 #34

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
33. They need to leave one big space for Bernie.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:45 AM
May 2016

He's going to be driven over harder than anyone before this thing is done.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
2. Usurpation of democracy deserves far more than vulgarity
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:16 PM
May 2016

Oh my stars and garters, chalk and pejoratives! The horror of it all. We must discuss this trauma over sweet tea while fanning ourselves gently on the lanai to overcome the friction of the moment.

Lawd, save me from this tribulation!

*rolls eyes*

So delicate.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
3. Gotta love the "Plantation" speak you employ here.... Don't want to leave out POC when you're being
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:18 PM
May 2016

offensive to women. Going for a twofer.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
6. The "Plantation" speak is intended to mock, not exalt, that way of speaking
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:23 PM
May 2016

It's also called speaking with affectations.

Perhaps you missed the obvious sarcasm Prism meant?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
7. Sarcasm was not directed to the "Plantation" owner but to those suffering under him....
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:25 PM
May 2016

So much for your cheesy excuse, should have thought that through a little better. Because his post was ugly as fuck.
So ugly, I will preserve it here:

Prism (5,616 posts)
2. Usurpation of democracy deserves far more than vulgarity

Oh my stars and garters, chalk and pejoratives! The horror of it all. We must discuss this trauma over sweet tea while fanning ourselves gently on the lanai to overcome the friction of the moment.

Lawd, save me from this tribulation!

*rolls eyes*

So delicate.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
9. You completely misunderstood the post, then.
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:28 PM
May 2016

The mocking is at the person talking in an affected manner ! Since POC did not talk like that, it is not mocking them. I don't know how much clearer this can be.

What Prism posted is not at all ugly, you just misunderstood it.

Source: every time Jon Stewart mocked Lindsey Graham for talking in an affected way.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
14. Wrong context- he is mocking "the aggrieved" party- a woman, using language used to mock slaves.
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:58 PM
May 2016

Nice try.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
21. Pretending not to see the point is
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:26 PM
May 2016

even stupider than simply not seeing it.

Nice as it would be to give you some credit here, it's hard to believe it's not an act.

Zero points.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
19. Um no, that would be YOU completely missing the point...
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:00 PM
May 2016

...but by all means, don't let me stop you from looking like a fool, again, and again, and again....

revmclaren

(2,500 posts)
30. Prism has been flagged for review.
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

Maybe the Admins ARE watching now. And an awful lot of BSers on DU are complaining that they are not getting onto juries like they used to. And with high percentage numbers. As I said...maybe the Admins ARE watching now.



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. would you look at the bullshit excuses for this?
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:59 PM
May 2016

Step 1- pretend their is a totally different context- yeah, Jon Stewart did it! That's the ticket. Thud.

Response to Prism (Reply #2)

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
22. Not sure if you can see the posts, but there is a lot of faux outrage directed your way.
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:33 PM
May 2016

Pretty sad attempt at misdirection, quite honestly.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. Lucy Flores... This I can respect. No excuses. No statement, provoked.
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:19 PM
May 2016

Granted, I didnt read the article, but I admire the woman that much more for what she said in this snippet.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
12. No ONE has proven any vulgar insults. And no voice on a video is not proof.
Mon May 16, 2016, 08:47 PM
May 2016

Amazing how this story is evolving to the usual b.s.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
23. Was Flores even there? Amazing how her statement DOES NOT provide ANY details of
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:03 AM
May 2016

what people were upset about or what was supposedly done.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
24. Do I trust that a politician is a truth teller? NO. I have seen so many lies this cycle that I
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:06 AM
May 2016

would NEVER assume that.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
29. Dream on. If he accomplished anything as President it would be through compromise
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:40 AM
May 2016

with Rethugs, and then all the Bernie lovers would transform into Bernie haters and call him a sell-out.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
25. I read her statement. It included NO discussion to explain what the people were upset about.
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:09 AM
May 2016

I am so shocked.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
34. When your candidate herself chose to make hateful claims of LGBT apathy toward AIDS which were
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:15 AM
May 2016

according to her only overcome by the courageous activism of original AIDS activists Ron and Nancy Reagan, both she and her supporters in life and on DU refused to discuss the matter. 'She tweeted an apology, she made a mistake, why do you keep talking about it, she said she's sorry!!!!!!'

So the people who insulted others should say sorry then we declare it to 'just a mistake' and we move on, like we did when your candidate praised the Republicans whose silence and inaction cost the lives of thousands of Americans.

One side gets to say and do anything, no matter how vile, ignorant or Pro Republican and yet they hold the other side to extreme culpability for the action of anyone claiming to be on that side. Your own candidate shat on the graves of my friends and family. And you all laughed about it.
Do not expect my vote, support nor affections in the future.

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