Why won't Sanders release his taxes?

[StayFrosty]

I mean what's so difficult about it? If he's as clean as he says he is then he shouldn't have to make us wait this long to release them

I wonder what Sanders and Trump are hiding in there. He released his 2014 taxes... Why won't he release the rest?

Hillary has released hers from the past 30 years....

Sandroids love to go on rants about purity and transparency yet their candidate has been dodging and twisting as to why he hasn't released his taxes

[MADem]

1. It might have to do with the payout his wife got after she left her post...?

I really don't know. It is a mystery, and the longer he stalls, the more we wonder.

[StayFrosty]

2. True

Jane's massive payout might have accelerated Burlington's college closure

[Todays_Illusion]

18. Sanders released his 2014 return here is a link, weren't they discussed here?

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-04-15/not-quite-the-1-percent-sanders-releases-boring-tax-returns

[MADem]

20. Yes, that is the only return he has released.

Jane Sanders left that school in 2011, well before that one single return.

[pkdu]

3. "It's none of your business..." Oh wait...

That was Trumps answer...

[QC]

4. Today's brocking point is "OMG JANE SANDERS DESTROYED A COLLEGE!!1!!"

Please do try to keep up.

[NanceGreggs]

9. Today's talking point ...

... is actually the same as every day's talking point for the past few weeks, i.e. Brock is responsible for every post on DU.

Hate to break it to you, but there were posts here about Jane and her misrepresentations to the bank on this real estate deal months ago - which were "hidden" by BS-majority jurors because they didn't fit the "the Sanders are above reproach" narrative.

No one here needs prompting from David Brock, or anyone else, to post the fact that Mr. Transparency has failed to produce full-and-complete tax returns. No one here needs David Brock to point out that Bernie is lying to his donors by saying he "still has a path to victory" when everyone knows he doesn't.

No one here is relying on David Brock to point out the bleedin' obvious about Bernie and his tactics. If you go back and look at the posts about BS since last April, you can clearly see that a lot of posters were "on" to Bernie long before the news broke that David Brock's "correct the record" concept was in play.

Quite frankly, you and your cohorts flatter yourselves by thinking he would be so incredibly interested in what gets posted on DU. Once upon a time, yes - but not now. DU is down to a fraction of the participants it could once honestly boast of having.

For David Brock - or anyone else - to bother debating people who believe that Bernie still stands a chance of winning the delegates needed to secure the nomination, or believe that the super-delegates are going to hand that nomination over to the clear loser, would be an incredible waste of time and resources.

[StayFrosty]

11. Well said

[NanceGreggs]

12. I find it mind-boggling ...

... that some people here actually believe that after a year of posts "outing" Bernie and his campaign as liars, hypocrites, and self-serving grifters, anyone would think that posters here need "talking points" from David Brock to inform their opinions, or prompt them to express those opinions.

Perhaps it just comes down to delusions of granduer, i.e. "My posts are SO important, David Brock is paying people to dispute them."

[Cha]

17. Ahem..

On Mon May 16, 2016, 08:00 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I find it mind-boggling ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1976590

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a site set up to support the Democratic Party. None of our candidates, for any office, should be called "liars, hypocrites, and self-serving grifters" here.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon May 16, 2016, 08:13 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Tougher language than this has survived juries with no hides. We'll leave this one also.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "None of our candidates, for any office, should be called "liars, hypocrites, and self-serving grifters" here."

Right.. they shouldn't have to be but BS went that way.. he could have not.. but, this is all on him.

Bernie the grifter.. still hanging on to those donations long after he has no chance. Telling his fans ".. there still is a path to Victory..".

Shame on BS.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seriously, alerter? If you couldn't call a Dem candidate a liar on DU, it would be a ghost town in GDP. I look forward to the end of this primary, but as long as Hillary is called a liar--and much worse--routinely on DU, what is good for the gander is good for the goose.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I wish you people would knock this shit off. You're acting like children and its goddam shameful and embarrassing. As for this particular post, it's the standard juvenile crap that leaks out of the G D P cesspool every time one of you hits the alert button.

[SunSeeker]

23. ...

[Cha]

24. ...

[MADem]

21. All you have to do is read the paper or watch television--I first saw the BC report on TV.

If David Brock is paying people, I could use some spare cash--where's MY damn check?

[JimDandy]

35. Skinner really must be hurting for income then if so many SBS supporters have already left the site.

I know many left for JPR. We must be the last holdouts of the 85% of his members who were SBS supporters. He must be mortified that someone like you in the know about his business felt it was appropriate to let his competition know that this site is on its last legs.

[NanceGreggs]

36. Exactly where did I say ...

... that this site was "on its last legs"?

I didn't say anything remotely like that - but perhaps you responded as you did because that's the thought you wanted to convey.

[JimDandy]

38. That is a reasonable interpretation of your "fraction of the participants..." comment

You are the one heralding his loss of business.

[NanceGreggs]

57. I've followed the Alexa stats ...

In its heyday (circa 2006-07), DU was ranked in the top 100 most trafficked websites in the US, and in the top 1,000 world-wide. Today it's at #2,437 in the US, and #9,621 world-wide.

Last December, Skinner himself posted about DU having suffered a dramatic drop in 2014, and stated that DU didn't "break even" financially as a result. He then asked for donations to cover a bonus for Elad as compensation for the work he had done last fall in switching the site to a new server.

In January 2015, Alexa ranked DU at #12,500 world-wide, Since then, it has slowly risen to where it is now, undoubtedly due to the debates and primary races being in full swing. But it has never regained the numbers it once had.

Those are the facts. It has nothing to do with "heralding a loss of business". The stats are what they are.

[seabeyond]

5. I am thinking payment to family and paid lower than 2014 13%. Nt

[kstewart33]

15. I read your earlier post.

It makes sense. A lower than low tax rate would not be helpful at all for Bernie.

[MADem]

22. That's a plausible guess. As good as any. nt

[JaneyVee]

6. "Sandroids" is pretty clever.

[winter is coming]

7. He will, as soon as Hillary releases her speech transcripts. n/t

[msanthrope]

8. How are transcripts and taxes comparable? Why is the woman in race expected to

release more? After all, HRC has already released her taxes. Why not Bernie?

[StayFrosty]

10. Hillary released 30 years of taxes

Why won't Bernie release his taxes?

[uponit7771]

14. Few who don't already hate Clinton cares about the transcripts

[CreekDog]

41. Trying to follow Bernie's logic --so he will only do what Hillary does?

I thought he was big on doing the right thing, and not just doing it conditionally.

[jillan]

13. He Will when Hillary releases her transcripts.

[kstewart33]

16. Transcripts?

Okay. As long as Bernie releases the videos and transcripts of his speeches and his communications with Marxists, Communists, and his strong support of Fidel Castro and the Sandinistas.

Hillary has released thousands of emails. Why can't Sanders do the same with his communications with these colleagues and socialist associations that are far more socialist than democratic?

Why hasn't he offered to do so? It's because he has not said a word about his past before his years in Congress. Because such would create major problems with voters beyond the most avid Bernie supporters. The public is far too moderate and conservative to stomach the more incendiary facts about Bernie's past.

Bernie knows that. The Congressional Democrats know that. The media knows that. And yet everyone is keeping quiet for their own reasons.

Why is that?

[Kittycat]

26. Speaking was her job

So show the public. Let us judge her on the content of her ability and the true character she put forth.

[AgingAmerican]

19. He already released them

[SunSeeker]

25. "Them"? No, he only released one tax return: 2014.

Hillary released 30 years of tax returns.

[AgingAmerican]

30. He has released what is required

The demands from her supporters are ludicrous. They make them so they cannot discuss actual issues.

[SunSeeker]

31. Expecting years of tax returns from a Presidential candidate is not "ludicrous."

It has been expected of all Presidential candidates for decades.

[Corporate666]

37. Why does Sanders want to be like Trump?

and not like just about EVERY OTHER DEMOCRAT who has run for President?

They all release their tax returns.... except Bernie.

His wife even said she would do it, when they were due. Which was about a month ago now. But she hasn't. Bernie has made all sorts of excuses... that she's busy, that she needs time to look them out (from Turbotax?), that they are getting to it.

and on and on.

What is he hiding? It is standard for candidates to release them. The only reason he wouldn't is because there is something he wants to hide. So what is the secret that he doesn't want everyone to know? Who knows... but we must assume the worst.

[AgingAmerican]

42. He isn't hiding anything and you know it

Throwing turds at the wall, see if anything sticks.

[Gavile]

45. You tell us.....what do you think is in there?

We all know there's nothing.

[Arneoker]

46. No more ridiculous that was asked of Romney four years ago

As far as discussing actual issues, what with the hyperventilating about speech transcripts, campaign contributions from and other ties to special interests (also true of Bernie, ex., Tad Devine and his firm that represented Monsanto), sometimes it seems like pulling teeth to get Bernie supporters to discuss actual issues.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander, and that applies in multiple ways here.

[Tavarious Jackson]

48. He has not released them

One year is not sufficient. No candidate since 76 besides Trump has pulled this crap.

[Ned_Devine]

27. The millionaire wants the guy who shops at Men's Wearhouse to show his tax returns

[SunSeeker]

33. Sanders is a millionaire, he just transferred his assets to his wife's name to hide that fact.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-wife-accounts-for-reported-assets-120261

[Corporate666]

40. LOL!

I just read that link.... my jaw dropped when I read this:

"He donated all royalties from his 2011 book, “The Speech,” to charity, as well as an $850 appearance fee on political comedian Bill Maher’s HBO show, for a total of $1,867."

Errr.... so the TOTAL royalties from his 2011 book were 1,017?

Just goes to show you how important Bernie was to the world before he decided to run for POTUS. I am sorry but this is a man who was an absolutely irrelevant figure in US politics until he decided to be the rich-hating/free-shit-promising king.

I know a stripper who wrote a book about some pope from hundreds of years ago that has made a hell of a lot more than Sanders did on this book.

Yet another endeavor that Sanders failed miserably in. I know his supporters will foam at the mouth and alert this post because they don't like dissenting opinions, but really... this guy has failed at everything he has ever tried!

[Arneoker]

47. So he has much less to worry about

Thanks for making the point!

[Biaviians]

28. Hillary and Bill made $3billion

[JonLeibowitz]

32. "Why won't Sanders release his taxes?"

He pays his taxes to the U.S. Treasury, not to the public. Or perhaps did you mean his returns? Language is important.

[SunSeeker]

34. The public pays his salary. nt

[Moose_Jaw]

39. At this point, I don't care if he does

Since he is not going to be the nominee, asking for his full tax returns is superfluous.

We can keep dogging Trump for his, however, if for nothing else, it is so easy to get under his orange skin.

[pansypoo53219]

43. where are the wall street speeches?

[Gavile]

44. Nobody's interested in them except David Brock

[leftynyc]

49. Who cares?

He has zero chance of being the nominee. Let him keep them secret.

[Human101948]

51. Since Hillary is the nominee she should come clean on those speeches...

otherwise it will be turned into a yuuuuge negative by Donald Trump.

[leftynyc]

56. Let him

Releasing taxes is something every presidential nominee has done since Nixon and donnie is afraid to do it. He's got no leg to stand on. NOBODY has been asked to give up transcripts to speeches - that's entirely a new thing and frankly, fuck that. She's entitled to say what she wants in a private speech. It didn't lose her the nomination and it wont lose her the election (despite the hopes and dreams of the Bernie supporters wishing she would lose in November).

[LaydeeBug]

50. k & r. they have *NERVE* to complain about speeches. nt

[NurseJackie]

52. As others have noted, it won't make any difference in the outcome. Hillary will be our nominee. But…

... it's interesting to note that "Mr. Transparency" and his beyond-reproach "Squeaky-Clean" campaign may not be living up to the hype and expectations. At this late date, whether or not he produces the full tax returns (for more than one year) will have no affect on the outcome, it's still worth pointing out and needling his campaign for having not done so. It helps to illustrate what the Bernie campaign is like, and that the differences between his campaign and others who seek/sought national office aren't as vast as they'd have people believe.

(Alerter: These are my personal observations and personal opinions.)

[Vinca]

53. It probably lists his contributions to the Communist party and all the off shore accounts

where he hides such a massive amount of money. The only reason you continue beating the tax return drum is you know your flawed candidate is going to be struggling to win the next few states. She's already on the down slope when it comes to Trump. We're so screwed. Thank you Democratic Party. And Trump thanks you, too.

[BeyondGeography]

54. Because he never intended to

Because he knew not so deep down he wasn't going to win and wouldn't have to.

Jane and Bernie have misled on this issue, and used their own deception to pressure HRC on the transcripts, which is a sorry case false equivalency. On this issue, they are total game players.

[peace13]

55. Welcome to DU.

The only answer to this question is, when will Hill release her speech transcripts? Her promise is fading.