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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:21 PM May 2016

Bernie Sanders: Hillary Clinton is Not Telling the Truth on Auto Bailout



Press Release

Clinton is Not Telling the Truth on Auto Bailout
May 16, 2016


SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign spokesman on Monday said Hillary Clinton should stop trying to distort the truth about Sanders’ support for legislation to help carmakers and auto workers.

Campaigning in Kentucky before Tuesday’s primary election, Clinton repeated her false claim that Sanders did not vote to fund an auto industry aid package in 2008. In fact, Sanders voted for a $14 billion aid package which passed the House of Representatives on Dec. 10, 2008. When that bill ran into a Senate Republican roadblock, the White House turned to a separate Wall Street bailout fund for loans to the auto industry.

“It is absolutely untrue to say that Sen. Sanders voted against helping the automobile industry and auto workers,” said Sanders’ spokesman Michael Briggs. “Secretary Clinton first made this false claim before the Michigan primary. She now is recycling the erroneous charge in Kentucky. Once again, Secretary Clinton is simply not telling the truth.”

When Clinton first mischaracterized Sanders’ position before Michigan’s March 8 primary, The Washington Post said Clinton was trying to deceive voters and that she “glosses over a lot . . . including the fact that Sanders is actually on the record as supporting the auto bailout. He even voted for it.” The Post also said of Clinton, “It seems like she’s willing to take the gamble that fact checkers may call her out for her tactic … but that voters won’t.”


Unlike Clinton, Sanders did vote against bailing out big banks after the 2008 economic collapse. “It is true that Sen. Sanders voted against bailing out the crooks on Wall Street whose illegal behavior and greed brought this economy into the worst downturn since the 1930s,” Briggs said.

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/clinton-not-telling-truth-auto-bailout/

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Bernie Sanders: Hillary Clinton is Not Telling the Truth on Auto Bailout (Original Post) imagine2015 May 2016 OP
Lying is just what she does... and her supporters seemingly don't care. AzDar May 2016 #1
Actually, Sanders is the liar. He doesn't get to do nuance on his own record KittyWampus May 2016 #21
This is only a sampling, mind you... Her lies are LEGION. AzDar May 2016 #24
The Clintons find a lie they like and just run with it Ned_Devine May 2016 #2
Sadly it was debunked in the first state and now the liar is out repeating it onecaliberal May 2016 #3
She has to make stuff up. Because they have so much real dirt on him. JudyM May 2016 #4
She's trying it again... Jack Bone May 2016 #5
I thought the auto bailout was wrapped up in the bank bailout WhiteTara May 2016 #6
Yes, he would have allowed the auto industry to fail- punitive action is his favorite tactic. bettyellen May 2016 #8
He voted against the Wall Street bank bailout. They could have passed the clean auto bailout bill imagine2015 May 2016 #9
No, sorry. Sanders doesn't get to do nuance. He does "simple answers". KittyWampus May 2016 #22
+1, that's the issue with purist... they feel good and get NOTHING uponit7771 May 2016 #11
Wall Street banksters got exactly what they wanted! A clean auto bill could have been passed. imagine2015 May 2016 #15
Do you think people who vote for Hillary believe Sanders will change that? uponit7771 May 2016 #29
She isn't telling the truth about anything else either tularetom May 2016 #7
Sanders also voted against the Brady Bill five times and voted for the 94 crime bill and voted to uponit7771 May 2016 #10
Do you think civilians should have the right to own personal fireams including hand guns and rifles? imagine2015 May 2016 #16
So what's your position on government gun control and confiscation? imagine2015 May 2016 #18
The answer to your question is, yes. kcr May 2016 #26
Amen!! uponit7771 May 2016 #28
Bernie uses far too many words. He could have easily stopped truedelphi May 2016 #12
Err... doesn't that release basically admit he voted against the bailout? Recursion May 2016 #13
He voted for a clean auto bill that could have passed the Senate if Democrats wanted it. imagine2015 May 2016 #17
So, agreed: he voted against the bailout that happened (nt) Recursion May 2016 #23
Considering that he's been hammering her for the crime bill he voted for... TwilightZone May 2016 #14
Who put forth and pushed the crime bill? The Clintons who only got people like Bernie to vote for Skwmom May 2016 #20
I am so sick of this crap. Skwmom May 2016 #19
Hillary doesn't know how to tell the truth she's been lying for so long. pdsimdars May 2016 #25
Except that she is telling the truth, but according to Bernie. synergie May 2016 #27
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
21. Actually, Sanders is the liar. He doesn't get to do nuance on his own record
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:56 PM
May 2016

When he doesn't allow it for his opponent.

And here's the company he was in on that Bill:


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WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
6. I thought the auto bailout was wrapped up in the bank bailout
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:26 PM
May 2016

and the bill Bernie voted on didn't pass. So in a sense, yes he did vote against the auto bailout.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
9. He voted against the Wall Street bank bailout. They could have passed the clean auto bailout bill
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:36 PM
May 2016

in the Senate with a straight up and down vote when they controlled the Senate by using their "nuclear option" power.

Folding an auto bailout into the Wall Street bill enabled the bi-partisan Democrats and Republicans to get the trillion dollar handout to Wall Street banksters with an easy majority vote without a filibuster. That was the catch and gimmick used that not all Democratic Senators were willing to support.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
22. No, sorry. Sanders doesn't get to do nuance. He does "simple answers".
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:58 PM
May 2016

Remember during one of the debates and he thought he was cute saying that to Clinton?

He voted with the Republicans.

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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
15. Wall Street banksters got exactly what they wanted! A clean auto bill could have been passed.
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:31 PM
May 2016

But most Democrats and Republican Senators wanted to help out their pals on Wall Street. They came first.

The Democrats controlled the Senate and they failed to use their control to pass a clean auto bailout bill.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
10. Sanders also voted against the Brady Bill five times and voted for the 94 crime bill and voted to
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:42 PM
May 2016

... give gun corp immunity.

If that's what a socialist and a progressive does then shouldn't the left want to lean away from that?

tia

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
16. Do you think civilians should have the right to own personal fireams including hand guns and rifles?
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:32 PM
May 2016

Yes or No.



kcr

(15,315 posts)
26. The answer to your question is, yes.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:57 AM
May 2016

The truth is, Bernie is really not all that much better than Hillary. He's an American politician who has to work in the American political system just as much as she does. Both of them could do better but our system makes that really hard. Most Americans are like that old analogy of the frogs in the boiling pot. We just don't realize how bad it is.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Err... doesn't that release basically admit he voted against the bailout?
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:49 PM
May 2016

He voted for a bill that didn't pass, and voted against the bill that did pass and bailed out the automakers. Call me crazy, but that seems pretty clearly to be a vote, and it seems to have been against the auto bailout.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
17. He voted for a clean auto bill that could have passed the Senate if Democrats wanted it.
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

It appears that most Senators were mainly concerned about working with Republicans to pass a Wall Street bailout bill and getting it easily passed by including some auto bailout funds.

He did not vote for that Wall Street bailout bill in the Senate.

I'm glad he didn't.

And nine Democratic Senators along with fifteen Republicans joined Sanders in voting against that Wall Street bill.

TwilightZone

(25,456 posts)
14. Considering that he's been hammering her for the crime bill he voted for...
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

I'm not sure he has any room to talk about "truth".

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
20. Who put forth and pushed the crime bill? The Clintons who only got people like Bernie to vote for
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:54 PM
May 2016

it by adding things they'd really like to see enacted for the people. And he stood up and spoke out about how Democrats needed to address the underlying CAUSES of crime.
 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
27. Except that she is telling the truth, but according to Bernie.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:45 AM
May 2016

the congressional record lies and Bernie never does when he says things that don't match the record.

The auto bailout funds came from a bill that Bernie voted against. Simple fact. Desperate Bernie lies to squeeze money from people he knows are not bright or literate enough to read the record and understand the words.

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