Bernie Sanders : Working People Subsidize Wal Mart, while Wal Mart Subsidizes Clinton

[Bernie93]

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[underthematrix]

1. LOL! all those people behind probably shop at Walmart.

[Ken Burch]

9. Poorbashing are we?

People who shop at WalMart do so because the system we live under makes it too expensive for them to shop anywhere else.

WalMart is the problem...not WalMart customers.

[ucrdem]

10. Bernie says "we're tired of subsidizing" workers by paying for their foodstamps with our taxes.

He actually says that, and the audience cheers. How is that not a poor-bashing RW argument straight from the Reagan playbook?

[senz]

11. His point is that we're subsidizing the Walton family with our taxes.

Rather obvious.

[ucrdem]

18. Bashing Hillary is no excuse for trotting out Gingrich-era talking points

and complaining about taxes used for foodstamps is exactly that.

[senz]

21. Your comments are thick with falsehoods tonight.

He does not "bash" Hillary. He's talking about taxpayers subsidizing the profits of the wealthiest family in America.

Your many falsehoods betray your desperation.

[Armstead]

32. Who is the President and First lady that stood behind Welfare Deform?

[ViseGrip]

48. You mean like Gingrich and Clinton privatizing Soc Sec? That Gingrich?

Did you forget the relationship between Big Dawg and Newt?

[Armstead]

29. Use basic logic

Which is completely lacking in your response

[senz]

17. Thanks, Ken.

The way some are trashing Bernie and lauding Walmart, one would think they were Republicans.

[Armstead]

31. It's a fabulous leap of logic

[B Calm]

40. They are respectively called DINO's,

but you are correct.

[merrily]

28. And, even if true, that undermines the point how, exactly? Gratuitous poor bashing is shameful.

[StayFrosty]

2. This is the guy that

Wants to flip the super delegates while he spews bullshit like this

[.99center]

6. What was bullshit?

[senz]

12. Do you know anything about the issue? Doesn't sound like it.

[merrily]

30. Um, which bullshit exactly? BTW, google how much Hillary did for workers while on the WM board.

[ucrdem]

3. Letting his freep flag fly.

Sad.

[.99center]

7. Criticism of Walmart's subsidies is now a right wing attack?

What is right wing about this attack? Oh, were supposed to defend corporate welfare now because Hillary's relationship with the company? What other positions and how many other values are we going to sacrifice because of Hillary?

[Eko]

8. Where does corporate welfare

stop and start? Is it a dollar amount? Is it food stamps vs tax evasion? Cause I don't see that much difference between wal mart and apple, google and microsoft that are all in the top 7 Sanders contributors.

[Matt_in_STL]

25. Google and Walmart are not in his top 7 contributors, so there's a lie.

Additionally, Apple and Microsoft are in the top 7 for his entire career, not for this cycle, and those donations came from individuals working for the companies, not the companies themselves, and totaled less than $200,000.

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&type=I&cid=n00000528&newMem=N&recs=20

As far as corporate welfare, Bernie has argued against all of it. This just happened to be a speech involving Walmart. I'm sorry he offended your sensibilities by not naming off an entire list in his speech.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-corporate-regulation/

The fact is, Walmart refuses to pay a working wage which directly impacts individuals and their bottom line. Those workers then have to seek out government aid which is the equivalent of you and I paying their salaries instead of Walmart raising their wages and sacrificing a small modicum of their billions in annual profits.

Educate yourself and leave the lies to the Republicans.

[Eko]

47. Sorry, I did not make that clear.

What is the difference between wal mart,,, and then Google, Apple and Microsoft which are in the top seven of his contributors. Yes, Google is, Alphabet Inc is the parent company for Google and that is his top contributor. I know what wal mart does, I never shop there. If you are a Sanders supporter and don't know who his top contributor is maybe you should take your own advice.

[senz]

13. Bernie is the most liberal/progressive candidate running.

And if you have to say things like that, somebody's campaign must be getting desperate.

[ucrdem]

16. Except he isn't. There's nothing "liberal/progressive" about running a campaign based on thuggery:

From the complaint lodged against the Sanders campaign by the NV Democratic Party:

Scuffles, screams from bullhorns, and profane insults marked nearly the entirety of the event.

Numerous medical emergencies among delegates pressed up against the dais had to be attended to throughout the day.

To the great embarrassment and revulsion of the vast majority of attendees, Sanders delegates crowded the dais and shouted down universally-respected U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer of California, who had arrived as a guest of the party to deliver a keynote address in support of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

The Sanders Campaign spent its time either ignoring or profiting from the chaos it did much to create and nothing to diminish or mitigate.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/312844982/160516-Letter-DNC-RBC-NVDemsConvention#

By no stretch of the imagination can this kind of intimidation be described as liberal or progressive.

[senz]

19. That's false. I saw the videos and heard the first-hand reports.

This is the best coverage I've seen (and I've seen many good videos of it.)

[ucrdem]

22. Thanks, I'll trust the counsel to the Nevada State Democratic Party. nt

[nenagh]

41. Thanks senz...

supporters need to see this video compilation to see what occurred that enraged Sanders delegates.

[TCJ70]

46. This is the best summary I've seen of it...

...so far. I can see where the caucus goers anger comes from.

[merrily]

34. Speaking of bs, I link to anything connect the CAMPAIGN to the behavior of delegates who, btw, were

getting screwed by the state party chair. If you want thuggery, look up what she did. The guy who used to run Tammany Hall rolled over in his grave from envy. Do did Don Corleone.

[Armstead]

33. You must not pay much attention to workers issues

[LuvLoogie]

4. It has been a while since I saw a clip of him.

Poor guy is worn out. He's going to need a good month off after the June primaries. Probably more.

He'd have done better going after the GOP instead of Hillary and the Democratic party. He'd have gotten further had he touted it's positions over the GOP's, rather than constantly equate Hillary and the Democratic establishment with the GOP.

He used the Democratic party to run a third party campaign. I don't think he ever once said "my fellow Democrats."

[senz]

14. He's been going after Trump at every rally. Gets the crowd booing at Trump.

Bernie has always always gotten along well with Democrats. This year, he's had to deal with a corrupted party.

[ucrdem]

20. He's going after Clinton in this clip and doesn't mention Trump once. Not once.

[senz]

23. LOL -- in a two-minute clip?

[merrily]

35. Key words being IN THIS CLIP. Do you never tire of that kind of post?

[Eko]

5. Wal Mart is a product of Americans.

Scoring cheap political points without actually calling out the problem, namely us and probably at least half of the people behind you that shop at wal-mart is pretty freaking low. The problem with America isn't Clinton or Wal mart, at least the economic problem. That is our propensity for cheap shit at a cheap price. Saying that would be a revolution and one we really need, not someone scoring cheap political points to win.

[senz]

15. Walmart has been hideously destructive of America.

[Eko]

24. Sure,

Wal Mart cast a spell on Americans to get them to shop there. They offered what America wanted, cheap shit. You pay cheap shit prices and it supports cheap shit labor and you get cheap shit and a shit economy. But Clinton is the problem,,,,,, Sanders would be better, but even he is part of the establishment. Wal Mart, Clinton, are not the problem, we are. You want a freaking revolution, look in the mirror. Out of the last 30 days what is the percentage of American made goods you purchased?

[Armstead]

39. You are about 1/4 correct

I agree with you that our own behavior has fueled the problem.

But you also have to look at the whys and wherefores behind that. The totally immoral behavior of corporations like Wal mart. The fact that Wal mart pushes manufacturers to outsource and engage in bad practices to stay in business.

The fact that Wal mart uses its power and money to wipe out competitors in many communities, so it becomes the only choice.

The fact that many people would prefer not to shop at Wal Mart, but wage levels have slid to the point where they have no choice, etc.

[Eko]

49. Yes,

but they got that power because we gave it to them with our money.

[merrily]

37. Unsurprisingly, that's totally irrelevant. See also, Reply 36.

[merrily]

36. Legislation has nothing to do with either people who NEED cheap prices or with WalMart's wealth?

Blame the victims goes only so far before it starts looking really, really ugly.

[Eko]

50. Blame the victim?

It all started here
"In 1945, a businessman and former J. C. Penney employee, Sam Walton, purchased a branch of the Ben Franklin stores from the Butler Brothers.[16] His primary focus was on selling products at low prices to get higher-volume sales at a lower profit margin, portraying it as a crusade for the consumer"

He made it because Americans had a penchant for cheaper stuff, we gave him his money.

[merrily]

52. Besides being a non sequitur, your clueless reply doubles down on blaming the victims.

[Eko]

53. Which type of non sequitur are you saying it is?

You call it blaming the victims I call it people buying cheap stuff without realizing the consequences of that action, or not caring enough of the consequences.

[apcalc]

38. More hillary bashing....

[Scuba]

42. It's a target-rich environment.

[Demsrule86]

43. So Bernie is still attacking Hillary.

You should concede Bernie...you have revealed your true character.

[Demsrule86]

44. Oh and around here

Walmart pays better than say Kohls or Penney's or other retailers...In fact, Target just upped their wages as a result. Bernie I simply can't stand you and your canned rhetoric...maybe I should call you Nader.

[Demsrule86]

45. Bernie is now on ignore

I will read nor reply to any posts detailing any words from his traitorous lips.

[imagine2015]

51. K & R