2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRemember when the polling gap between Hillary and Bernie was closing?
Not any more. Looks like the chair-throwing and death threats and calling respected Democrats sexist slurs are taking a toll on Bernie's numbers. Might be time for Bernie to quit while he's "ahead". The uglier it gets, the more he damages his legacy and whatever changes he was hoping to bring to the party become less likely.
Gavile
(107 posts)When were the last polls taken anyway? The alleged chair-throwing incident only happened a few days ago.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)And coups based on the fight for democracy.
Stop suppressing the 99%!
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Hillary got more votes. The chair-throwing people are trying to get the will of the minority elevated over the majority.
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)In what world?
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)We KNOW what we're up against.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Cheating isn't winning and you can make up all the crap you want.
Chair throwing, death threats, my ass. We know the campaign is behind playing her as the victim. Her own damn people pretending to be Sanders supporters. All one has to do is look at how you all are here- to know what you are in real life.
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stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)kaleckim
(651 posts)With all the things that have happened with voting, the clear bias the DNC has had towards Clinton this entire election cycle, what has happened with independents and newly signed up Democrats being denied the vote within your party, you think this has been democratic? The amazing thing is the the horribleness that happened in Vegas was unneeded as she is the likely nominee. Why do such a blatant and poorly thought out thing with her ahead as she is? People are already mad because of the state of the country and the systematic corruption (Clinton's corruption being included in that), how the process has been handled this entire election cycle, then they do that and then antagonize people openly. The establishment in general should get used to people being angry, because they are. Nominating a corrupt person such as Clinton (try arguing otherwise), with her hawkish, center-right record, despite her horrible polling numbers, is not going to lead to people becoming less angry either. If you chalk that up to people being immature or undemocratic then you're not making sense of what is underway. Again though, the Vegas things was heavy handed and stupid. It would make more from a strategic point of view if it were closer and something that undemocratic was a means to eek out a victory. Heavy handed and bone-headed, given the current situation.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)actuality they are still LIES.
peace13
(11,076 posts)What a great way to start the day. Divide and conquer might be a better approach. Just sayin'.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and the recent events only serve to damage his campaign and make him even MORE unpalatable. The end of his campaign can't come soon enough for me.
(Alerter: These are my personal opinions and personal observations)
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)In a venue filled with cameras where is the video ?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Got any video evidence of those reporters fabricating the story?
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)Now back it up with actual evidence , not heresay .
YouDig
(2,280 posts)TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)Any video in a venue filled with cameras ?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)I don't care if you are impressed , does not that very fact bother you that in a venue filled with cameras there is apparently no recorded evidence ?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)My guess is that the Bernie people who shot those other videos shut down the cameras when the chair throwing started. But who knows. What we do know is that death threats were issued and chairs were thrown.
TheFarS1de
(1,017 posts)I would get a job as a reporter for Washington Post ... or Brock . Good to see how low you standards of proof are .
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Why do you think so many independent news outlets reported it if it didn't happen? Do you think the death threats were made up too? Do you think the video of calling Barbara Boxer a bitch was doctored?
How deep does this conspiracy go?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)It's all rotten, I tell you!
frylock
(34,825 posts)Where's the video?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Sure, there were "eyewitnesses", just like there were "eyewitnesses" to Bernie bros chanting "English only". Of course, when video of that incident was released, it was proven to never have happened. In any case, where's the video of the chair throwing?
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Cmon, you can admit it, you think it's Bernie, right?
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)I'm afraid there will come a time Democrats will be sorry for what they've done to Bernie.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)He had to earn them, and he didn't.
brooklynite
(94,501 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)Gavile
(107 posts)Hillary could never defeat Bernie on the issues, so Hillary's campaign had to lie about Bernie.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)He's gone completely unscathed this primary, despite there being a lot of material out there she could use. She's hardly talked about him at all.
Gavile
(107 posts)From a racist to a sexist to a rapist. Brock had all his talking points pre-prepared it seems.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)registered voter polls. Also, the live phone polling is the state-of-the-art polling method. Don't take my word for it; get off your ass and look into the issue for yourself. It is not "poll truthing" - it's simply a matter of best practices.
You may have noticed that the polls have varied widely and many have been wildly inaccurate. This is largely because there has been a flood of cheap-to-produce buy wildly inaccurate polling by unproven methodologies.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Bernie won't be leaving between now and then. Save your pearl clutching and fairing couch.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Hillary's camp is folding right under her.....
YouDig
(2,280 posts)them recently? Is it 285 more for Hillary? Gotta love it!
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I can only believe he agrees with them. And that is despicable.
frylock
(34,825 posts)If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)His supporters have just gotten too ugly.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Look at that! Common ground. Ebony and ivory.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)1 year of investigating Hillary + <12 Federal Agents = 0 White House.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)I can hardly contain myself!