Roberta Lange Appreciation Thread

[DemocratSinceBirth]

[floriduck]

1. Thank you Roberta for your epic failure as a leader.

[riversedge]

19. Sanders campaign's tacit approval of Trumpian violence & intimidation shows why they should NEVER be

Tweet:

Hillary Is Coming! ?@HillaryIsComing 4m4 minutes ago

Sanders campaign's tacit approval of Trumpian violence & intimidation shows why they should NEVER be in a position of power #NVDemConvention

[azurnoir]

21. again with the tweets is all ya'll got? seems like it

[Adrahil]

43. There was just a piece on MSNBC....

Roberta Lange was on. She played recording (bleeped due to foul language) of some really disgusting messages on her voice mail, including one guy who said she should be publicly hung. She also said some messages are threatening her family, and her day-job employer has been harassed. I heard the recordings, so that's certainly more than tweets.

[azurnoir]

45. second time today I've gotten "gee it was just on the teevee you must have missed it"

and recordings you say any proof of who was on the other end?

[Adrahil]

47. It was on Andrea Mitchell's show.

You are free to believe the recordings or not.

I have no doubt that some Sandernistas will do ANYTHING to avoid acknowledging any wrongdoing was done in the name of St. Bernard.

And before you ask, I condemn that actor who hit a Sanders supporter. That level of animosity is ridiculous.

[azurnoir]

49. well now Andrea Mitchell the only thing better would have Rachel Maddow

and it seems you cleverly call Bernie a dog how classy

[Adrahil]

50. This took me all of 10 seconds googling.... here ya go.

https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sample-voicemails-left-state-democratic-chairwoman-roberta-lange


Also, I was not calling Sanders a dog. I was referring to the idea that Sanders is somehow beyond reproach.

Not that calling him a St. Bernard dog would be bad. I love 'em. Not sure how that would be an insult in this context.

[azurnoir]

52. That Ralston Report that has been posted as thread at least twice in the past 10 hours

well color me impressed but that not Andrea Mitchell, but do tell is that she based her report on?

[Adrahil]

55. Are you suggesting these are falsified? If so, based on what?

Seriously. Step back. Are you THAT far gone?

[azurnoir]

60. I am suggesting that virtually all of the negative info on Sanders campaign in NV seems based on

info from the same person-Ralston-his personal blog his personal twitter feed are being parroted by the M$M as though they are the word of G-d rather than the musings of a Hillary supporter who's looking for cover for Hillary for numerous reasons, including 2 investigations- the FBI investigation of her and the latest one of the activities of her Foundation, the nasty stuff pulled by DNC reps on Saturday in NV , and her untimely announcement that Bill would be first dude and running her economic revitalization


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/bill-hillary-clinton-administration-economy.html?_r=0

[reformist2]

40. She is a perfect example of today's bureaucratic fascism.

They pretend to follow parliamentary rules, but in the end turn them into a sick parody. I actually find this clip somewhat amusing, without ever forgetting the fact that people like this are destroying democracy.

[Iliyah]

2. K & R

[LexVegas]

3. She's bearing the brunt of Berniebro rage. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. She's doing it for us.

[JudyM]

13. Yeah, cheating. She sure is. Pathetic that some here are happy with winning regardless of fraud.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. She followed the rules to the letter

She followed the rules to he letter and now her life, the lives of her grandchildren, and the lives of her employees are being threatened.



I can't believe any person of good conscience would deign to countenance such aberrant behavior.

[JudyM]

16. The aberrant behavior is falsifying results. That may be Hillaryland rules, but not long-established

Rules of order.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. AP, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and the Las Vegas Sun got it wrong.

OK.

That may be Hillaryland rules,

And it least in Hillaryland we don't threaten the lives of people and their grandchildren:


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/plk8x3hugdasxl4/AABtyUqg1UXol-hVRRBVTwFFa?dl=0



and harass their employees:


"The Porchlight website and Facebook page were similarly attacked with threats, including by someone who set up a fake 'Roberta Lange' ID on Facebook and then posted on the Porchlight Facebook page incredibly slanderous attacks against both Roberta and her husband Ken, including a post by the so-called 'Roberta Lange' that accused her husband Ken of crimes against children!"

Gallagher then said people began posting negative reviews of the business on Yelp "claiming all kind of bad experiences. On the Google site for the tavern someone posted that it was “permanently closed”! We have so far been unable to get Google to correct this. Needless to say our business has been affected negatively. In 50 years in politics I have never seen stuff like this."



read: https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/business-state-democratic-chairwoman-oversees-targeted-berners


Oh, it's on CNN as we speak.

[HumanityExperiment]

34. No she didn't...

She didn't follow the rules

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1978864

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. I will defer to the reporting of the...

I will defer to the reporting of the reporting of the New York Times, AP, the Washington Post, KTNV, and the Las Vegas Sun and not some video from a poster with an ideological axe to grind.

Your mileage may vary.

[HumanityExperiment]

37. mileage...

Appears the meter on miles is growing, looking over the amount of posts and effort by HRC supporters and DEM establishment types attempting to counter the narrative

Looking forward to the national convention and the intense media spotlight that will be focused on the process..

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. Really , who cares how many people suffer as the emotionally unstable have their fetish for

Really , who cares how many people suffer as the emotionally unstable have their fetish for violence sated?

Astro-Glide, if they can still get it up.

[HumanityExperiment]

41. point that question...

At the establishment folks... they need to figure their way out the SD pushing one of the candidates over the line and the reasons SDs are in existence... mass media will nom...nom..nom... all day and night over that debacle during convention

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Isn't this our second rodeo?

The person with the most votes should be the nominee. It has been thus since the ancient Athenians ...

[HumanityExperiment]

44. Past is prologue when it comes to activism and public outrage...

These are the lessons forgotten by the establishment, as recently as '68... now here in '16, we've come full circle as it concerns the SDs, their creation and reasoning of their very existence and function...

point out the 'ancient Athenians' super delegates again, I'll wait...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. Hillary Clinton has 3,000,000 more votes.

Hillary Clinton has 3,000,000 more votes. All the obscurantism in the world can not camouflage that fact.

Why do you think you are better than the people who voted for Hillary Clinton that you arrogate to yourself the right to disregard their votes?


Thank you in advance.

[HumanityExperiment]

56. SDs...

again with the pivot away from SDs... interesting as always and expected as SOP from HRC supporters....

'Why do you think you are better'

Where did that bit spawn from? always with the pivots from HRC supporters, away from the issue or point and to denigrating folks

issues and policy, if your point pertains to 'better than' then let's deal with the facts concerning both candidates shall we?

HRC is republican light as it pertains to her issues and policies she's held throughout her lifetime.. she's had to be pulled to the left constantly.... or as she like to qualify it... 'evolved'... being forced to positions one doesn't hold to begin and forced by public pressure isn't evolution, it's political expediency

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. Asked and answered. It is not up to me to usurp the rights of others to vote.

Asked and answered. It is not up to me to usurp the rights of others to vote. I would never arrogate to myself that power.

Hillary Clinton has won 3,000,000 more votes. What makes you better than those 3,000, 000 voters that you get to disregard their votes?

Do you agree that we needed the 15th Amendment, the 19th Amendment, and the Voting Rights Act because there were some citizens who felt some of their fellow citizens weren't good enough to vote?

Thank you in advance.

[HumanityExperiment]

64. ...

DEM party, as well as GOP, are private entities... your inclusion of those amendments pertains to GE which we aren't discussing at this point... if you want to talk about that within the primary process then you would need to discuss OPEN primaries in all states and I highly doubt you'd want to have that discussion

SDs are a DEM party construct, an artificial counter to grassroots within the DEM party.. exhibit A: Jimmy Carter, which was the outcome of the party shift away from party bosses to more democracy as to what occurred at '68 convention when party bosses/establishment made the 'decision' of nominee

After Carter DEM party created SDs....

I get your continued pivot away from SDs, you'll have to all the way through convention... there's no valid answer HRC nor her supporters can give as to WHY SDs pledged before a SINGLE primary ballot was cast.. that's complete disregarding of voters imo...

Establishment within DEM party were giving a clear signal to rest of DEM party as to WHOM they intended to support and back, how much weight that carried through to the lesser informed DEM voters is up for debate and yet a debate HRC and her supporters will avoid if my guess is correct....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

65. Which candidate has received approximately 3,000, 000 more votes?

Which candidate has received approximately 3,000, 000 more votes?

And your suggestion that folks are too stupid to vote and are easily manipulated is patronizing, condescending, and elitist.

Please regale us plebeians with your accomplishments so we can decide if we want you to be making decisions for us...

Thank you in advance.

[HumanityExperiment]

66. ...

'And your suggestion that folks are too stupid to vote and are easily manipulated is patronizing, condescending, and elitist.'

Again, why did SDs 'pledge' before a SINGLE VOTE was cast public in a primary?

'Please regale the rest of us with all your accomplishments so us plebeians can decide if we want you to be making decisions for us...'

Again, why did the DEM party establishment allow SDs to pledge before a single vote was cast by 'us plebeians'....

spare me your continued deflection and 'victimization', although it's quite comical to read it disrespects the intelligence of folks that pay attention to the details, facts and process/rules within the DEM party primary and nomination of candidate

[DemocratSinceBirth]

67. If I wanted to disregard the votes of 3,000, 000 people I would be ashamed of myself.

If I wanted to disregard the votes of 3,000, 000 people, many of whom are women and people of color, I would be ashamed of myself.

You should be too...

[HumanityExperiment]

72. shame...

...is disregarding voters before a single vote is cast...

all of whom is everyone else not party establishment and/or super delegate, I would be ashamed but I'd rather use my first amendment rights to correct the injustice and impact of why you feel ashamed...

Let's see how this plays out at convention shall we?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

77. Some folks have a penchant for violence.

[HumanityExperiment]

78. ...

some folks have a penchant for authoritarianism.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

79. Yeah, the people who want to disregard 3,000,000 votes

Even the dullest lads can get that.

[HumanityExperiment]

80. meep...

Let me clear and clarify one last time using your deflective and circular replies...

Q: 'hey about those super delegates, why do they exist, and why do they get to pledge before a single vote is cast in a primary?'

A: 'Yeah, the people who want to disregard votes'

Have a day!

[HumanityExperiment]

75. BTW...

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/17/voters-be-damned/

[DemocratSinceBirth]

76. The intercept. LOL. The left wing analog to Front Page.

[riversedge]

20. This VILE incident -and others-will not end well for the Sanders camp!

[BootinUp]

4. K & R - For doing a Thankless Job that is Necessary.

SOmeone call off the dogs from this women before someone gets seriously hurt.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. I hope the Las Vegas Police Department is providing her with appropriate security.

[Gavile]

6. She could have handled it so much better

[riversedge]

22. It is the Sanders fans vile behavior that is the issue!!

[Gavile]

27. Hillary is the vilest candidate in living memory

And her supporters are just as bad. This has been the most disgusting and divisive election I have ever seen. I hope the Hillbullies are proud of themselves.

[JudyM]

33. National disgrace: she and her establishment of history-twisting, vote-suppressing-and flipping,

crony-cheating...

[GulfCoast66]

68. Hillary supporters are proud

That she is winning by 3 million votes.

[JudyM]

35. Simply deaf. Votes were one way, counted as the other way. Vile doesn't get more clear than that.

[azurnoir]

39. well Hillary's camp is working to make it that Is that why this stuff gets pulled on Saturdays?

then you have Sunday to come up with stories court the proper news people make sure only your story gets to the M$M - however on line it's another story entirely and the truth is there

[Peacetrain]

8. I am so glad I came back online so I could reply and rec this

What she does is so thankless and hard.. I never told what happened at our caucus.. It was a nightmare at one point..and I will tell the tale when the election is over.. but I have never experienced anything like that .. and it was nothing and I mean nothing to what this poor woman in having to endure.. agree or disagree with her.. but threats.and making them against her family.. no excuse .. none what so ever

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Could you PM me your experience.

Thank you in advance.

[Peacetrain]

12. It was nothing like what happened in NV... it was a teachable moment

Sometimes I get tired of being Mom, and I had to be Mom to settle some people down.. but I will share it with everyone later.. It in no way impacted O'Malley.. I was his precinct captain.. We were just not viable.. I had all my people rounded up as we began..

[riversedge]

23. Make sure you write it all down now so nothing is forgotten. Writing does help IMHO. thanks

[Peacetrain]

25. Yep.. not a bad idea

.

[leftynyc]

9. Rec and kick

for Ms. Lange doing her job in the face of ugliness and violence.

[Starry Messenger]

10. K&R

[JRLeft]

14. She cheated, but should not be threatened.

[Kittycat]

28. ^^ this ^^

[Lucinda]

63. How did she "cheat"? n/t

[JRLeft]

69. She changed the rules unilaterally.

[riversedge]

17. Very good thread and love that Bette song...

Just found this tweet. seems to fit here:

Hillary Is Coming! ?@HillaryIsComing 4m4 minutes ago

Sanders campaign's tacit approval of Trumpian violence & intimidation shows why they should NEVER be in a position of power #NVDemConvention

[Jester Messiah]

18. I guess if you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's support. n/t

[whatchamacallit]

26. I see a lot of her in you

She's Hillyfolk for sure.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. You mean someone who doesn't cower in the face of bullies.

Thank you in advance.

[whatchamacallit]

30. No, I mean a bully who incites

You're welcome.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. I don't bully people but I will never cower from one. The latter irks some people, good...

[GreatGazoo]

54. according to Yelp when not stealing caucuses, she runs a 24/7 homophobic racist biker bar

not sure why anyone on DU would want to support her.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/porchlight-grille-las-vegas?hrid=6ovDwPNOdtWnnM5kbX19Tg&utm_campaign=www_review_share_popup&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=%28direct%29

[kstewart33]

31. DSB, you got that right.

She's dealing with death threats to herself and her family, and her employees are being harassed.

There is absolutely no excuse for this behavior, and Sanders should publicly call for civility in his campaign going forward.

[oasis]

46. Roberta Lange was just interviewed by Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC.

She told a very moving story of the the threats to her place of work (she volunteers for Nevada state party) and her home. Mitchell played several phone messages Lange recieved since the Nevada convention.

A clip was played for Bernie at his location and he was asked by reporters for a comment. He gave them the brush off.

[LadyHawkAZ]

51. I'd appreciate a resignation letter

and an admission of wrongdoing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

53. I'd appreciate it if the people who threatened the lives of her & her grandchildren to do some time.

[Lizzie Poppet]

73. As would I. That's wrong (and criminal). But that in no way excuses HER.

And not to put too fine a point on it, I hope the inevitable lawsuit(s) financially destroy her. Camp Weathervane wants to play hardball, fine. We can play, too.

[LadyHawkAZ]

81. Which would in no way excuse or erase her actions

But yes, it would be nice.

I'd like to see a few Clinton supporters condemning Wendell Pierce myself, so far the DU branch has only offered "she asked for it".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

82. Easy peasy. Wendell Pierce is an idiot.

[LadyHawkAZ]

83. Thank you. Sincerely.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

84. That wasn't hard to do. You don't beat people up because they like another candidate.

[LadyHawkAZ]

85. It had some supporters here at DU

where such things are supposedly frowned upon.

[lumberjack_jeff]

57. Yay! Can we get an attaboy for Katherine Harris while we're at it? How about Ken Blackwell!

If we're celebrating contempt for democracy, how can we exclude luminaries like them?

[Time for change]

88. She's following in their footsteps

[workinclasszero]

58. Standing strong against the howling mob!

[lunamagica]

61. Ms. Lange, I'm sorry you are being attacked for doing your job

[mcar]

62. K&R

[LuvLoogie]

70. Roberta!

[Lizzie Poppet]

71. Sure! I "appreciate" that she's going to get her ass sued off.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

74. Bookmark this post.

Sure! I "appreciate" that she's going to get her ass sued off.

If she has her ass sued off I will eat mine and put it on youtube.

I would be more worried about the legal exposure of those miscreants who threatened her life and the lives of her grandchildren.


It's in the attachment:


https://www.scribd.com/doc/312844982/160516-Letter-DNC-RBC-NVDemsConvention

[Gothmog]

86. This lady did a great job in the face of some real nut cases

[Time for change]

87. This is the most disgusting DU thread I've ever seen

An appreciation thread for someone who committed election fraud in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses and caught on video.

She is a disgrace to the Democratic Party and to anyone who believes in democracy.

And 27 people here think that's ok -- the poster and 26 who recommended it.

I hope you're all proud of yourselves.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

89. I am very proud of myself and her. She stood up to bullies.

If I could I would literally take the threats against her and her grandchildren:


https://www.scribd.com/doc/312844982/160516-Letter-DNC-RBC-NVDemsConvention


in lieu of her.

[Time for change]

90. She should be sent to prison for what she did, and I hope she stays there a good long time

[DemocratSinceBirth]

91. I would literally do the time for her...I have been in jail...It's not so bad....She is a heroine...

[Chezboo]

92. They're for-->her by hook or by crook.

I'd like to say it's unbelievable. But it's not anymore.

[Time for change]

93. Mostly by crook

I wonder if these people even know that the DU came into existence on the basis of election fraud that won the election for George W Bush. And now we have people on DU who are actually celebrating a clear example of election fraud because it benefits their candidate. Oh. My. God.