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Tue May 17, 2016, 02:00 PM

The Bernie or Bust Movement Shows No Signs of Slowing Down

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-or-bust-movement-shows-no-signs-slowing-down

The goal is to expose campaign corruption and make the case for a progressive future.

For months now, my Facebook feed has been clogged with inspirational posts about Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders getting arrested at a civil rights rally. Bernie Sanders’s modest tax returns. Bernie Sanders with a bird. Now that the delegate math is stacked against him, my Facebook feed is full of panicky moralistic posts about how Bernie or Bust is going to ruin everything, that it’s time for Sanders supporters to give up on ideological purity and unify behind the presumed nominee.

But the case for giving up on Sanders is turning out to be as difficult to make as the one for nominating him. Could it be that the Bernie or Bust movement, however righteous or quixotic, is not about Sanders at all, but another symptom of a high-rolling advertising-driven culture that has eroded all our trust in the social contract? I mean, if you’re looking for someone to blame, Edward Bernays is your man, not Sanders—and certainly not anyone who plans to write in Sanders’s name on a general election ballot.

Bernays, who was Sigmund Freud’s nephew, is the one who brought advertising into everyday life, not as billboard and print ads but as real events. In other words “public relations,” a term he also coined. Bernays kicked off his “torches of freedom” campaign for the American Tobacco Company in 1929 by hiring women to pose as suffragists in the Easter Sunday Parade and light up on cue. The point was to convince more women to smoke, but the whole campaign was dressed up as a grass-roots political movement. In 1954, “the father of spin” was hired by the United Fruit Company to set up local media in Guatemala that would coordinate with the CIA to topple the democratically elected government.

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Reply The Bernie or Bust Movement Shows No Signs of Slowing Down (Original post)
Ferd Berfel May 2016 OP
pinebox May 2016 #1
Trust Buster May 2016 #2
azurnoir May 2016 #3
redstateblues May 2016 #4
JaneyVee May 2016 #5
Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #6
Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #7
Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #9
Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #10
Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #13
Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #16
Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #18
oasis May 2016 #8
pmorlan1 May 2016 #11
nc4bo May 2016 #12
Maedhros May 2016 #19
libdem4life May 2016 #14
One Black Sheep May 2016 #15
felix_numinous May 2016 #17
AtomicKitten May 2016 #22
Uncle Joe May 2016 #20
Maedhros May 2016 #21
Live and Learn May 2016 #23

Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:01 PM

1. Of course it isn't

 

People are sick and tired of half assed ideas in politics in order to appease corporations.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:01 PM

2. Yes, you should feel very proud of their threats of violence.

 

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:03 PM

3. Did they think it would? Right now they're trying to get him kicked out of campaign

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:03 PM

4. There are lots of Trump enablers on this site

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:04 PM

5. Its all very Jim Jones-esque.

 

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:04 PM

6. The fight against a corrupt government will continue with or without Bernie. K&R

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #6)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:05 PM

7. Great you admit that you will tell Bernie to go fuck himself when he says you

must NOT facilitate a Drumpf White House.

Finally, honesty.

Liberals will fight you tooth and nail, hopefully we will win, if we lose , many will suffer and die.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #7)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:07 PM

9. No. I'll agree with him him and not vote for Trump.

 

Isn't that what you're going to do?

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #9)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:07 PM

10. You will be in disagreement with Bernie. Unless you are going to vote for the Democrat.

but you know that and you dont care

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #10)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:22 PM

13. No, I won't.

 

I won't be "facilitating" a Trump win by voting for someone other than Trump.

Which is what I will do when I vote for the candidate I prefer rather than Trump or Hillary.

0-0 does not = +1

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #13)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:32 PM

16. So you will be purposely facilitating Drumpfs deportations and the millions maybe billions

who might die.

Amazing.

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Response to Jackie Wilson Said (Reply #16)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:55 PM

18. No. I'm not facilitating anything.

 

As I said, I'm NOT voting for Trump. I will be voting for a candidate who doesn't have blood on her hands.

However, how many people died, became homeless, were maimed, tortured, imprisoned, because of Hillary's votes and support of the wars and killing by our government? Are you "responsible" for the deaths, etc, that she voted for?

Will you be facilitating more deportations, more futile wars, more neolib policies around the world causing more deaths, more poverty, more suffering, if Hillary continues her previous policies if elected?



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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:05 PM

8. Since the "movement" is headed nowhere, then speed doesn't matter.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:08 PM

11. After The Heavy Handed Debacle in Nevada

it's actually picking up steam.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:15 PM

12. Why should it? Only the willfully ignorant or low info'ers

Can ignore the stench of corruption.

There is rage against the machine.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #12)

Tue May 17, 2016, 03:15 PM

19. Those two demographics are Hillary's base. [n/t]

 

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:24 PM

14. The article was long, informative and effective.

 

It took awhile to read, so those finger-poised posters who slammed it starting one minute after, well, of course they didn't read it.

So I call Bull on their opinions. Take them to a place and knee jerk there.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:27 PM

15. Yep, I see it all the time on twitter, more and more

All these shenanigans going on regarding the primaries by the Hillary campaign seem to be driving more and more Bernie supporters to #BernieOrBust

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 02:39 PM

17. Every single act of corruption

just makes us stronger and sure of what direction to take, and what direction NOT to take.

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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #17)

Tue May 17, 2016, 04:38 PM

22. Word.

 

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 03:16 PM

20. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Ferd Berfel.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 03:16 PM

21. Liberals and progressives are not wanted by, nor do we need, the Democratic Party,

 

but they need us.

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Response to Ferd Berfel (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 04:51 PM

23. K&R nt

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