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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:00 PM May 2016

The Bernie or Bust Movement Shows No Signs of Slowing Down

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-or-bust-movement-shows-no-signs-slowing-down

The goal is to expose campaign corruption and make the case for a progressive future.

For months now, my Facebook feed has been clogged with inspirational posts about Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders getting arrested at a civil rights rally. Bernie Sanders’s modest tax returns. Bernie Sanders with a bird. Now that the delegate math is stacked against him, my Facebook feed is full of panicky moralistic posts about how Bernie or Bust is going to ruin everything, that it’s time for Sanders supporters to give up on ideological purity and unify behind the presumed nominee.

But the case for giving up on Sanders is turning out to be as difficult to make as the one for nominating him. Could it be that the Bernie or Bust movement, however righteous or quixotic, is not about Sanders at all, but another symptom of a high-rolling advertising-driven culture that has eroded all our trust in the social contract? I mean, if you’re looking for someone to blame, Edward Bernays is your man, not Sanders—and certainly not anyone who plans to write in Sanders’s name on a general election ballot.

Bernays, who was Sigmund Freud’s nephew, is the one who brought advertising into everyday life, not as billboard and print ads but as real events. In other words “public relations,” a term he also coined. Bernays kicked off his “torches of freedom” campaign for the American Tobacco Company in 1929 by hiring women to pose as suffragists in the Easter Sunday Parade and light up on cue. The point was to convince more women to smoke, but the whole campaign was dressed up as a grass-roots political movement. In 1954, “the father of spin” was hired by the United Fruit Company to set up local media in Guatemala that would coordinate with the CIA to topple the democratically elected government.
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The Bernie or Bust Movement Shows No Signs of Slowing Down (Original Post) Ferd Berfel May 2016 OP
Of course it isn't pinebox May 2016 #1
Yes, you should feel very proud of their threats of violence. Trust Buster May 2016 #2
Did they think it would? Right now they're trying to get him kicked out of campaign azurnoir May 2016 #3
There are lots of Trump enablers on this site redstateblues May 2016 #4
Its all very Jim Jones-esque. JaneyVee May 2016 #5
The fight against a corrupt government will continue with or without Bernie. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #6
Great you admit that you will tell Bernie to go fuck himself when he says you Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #7
No. I'll agree with him him and not vote for Trump. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #9
You will be in disagreement with Bernie. Unless you are going to vote for the Democrat. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #10
No, I won't. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #13
So you will be purposely facilitating Drumpfs deportations and the millions maybe billions Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #16
No. I'm not facilitating anything. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #18
Since the "movement" is headed nowhere, then speed doesn't matter. oasis May 2016 #8
After The Heavy Handed Debacle in Nevada pmorlan1 May 2016 #11
Why should it? Only the willfully ignorant or low info'ers nc4bo May 2016 #12
Those two demographics are Hillary's base. [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #19
The article was long, informative and effective. libdem4life May 2016 #14
Yep, I see it all the time on twitter, more and more One Black Sheep May 2016 #15
Every single act of corruption felix_numinous May 2016 #17
Word. AtomicKitten May 2016 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #20
Liberals and progressives are not wanted by, nor do we need, the Democratic Party, Maedhros May 2016 #21
K&R nt Live and Learn May 2016 #23
 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
1. Of course it isn't
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:01 PM
May 2016

People are sick and tired of half assed ideas in politics in order to appease corporations.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
7. Great you admit that you will tell Bernie to go fuck himself when he says you
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:05 PM
May 2016

must NOT facilitate a Drumpf White House.

Finally, honesty.

Liberals will fight you tooth and nail, hopefully we will win, if we lose , many will suffer and die.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
10. You will be in disagreement with Bernie. Unless you are going to vote for the Democrat.
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:07 PM
May 2016

but you know that and you dont care

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
13. No, I won't.
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

I won't be "facilitating" a Trump win by voting for someone other than Trump.

Which is what I will do when I vote for the candidate I prefer rather than Trump or Hillary.

0-0 does not = +1

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
16. So you will be purposely facilitating Drumpfs deportations and the millions maybe billions
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:32 PM
May 2016

who might die.

Amazing.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
18. No. I'm not facilitating anything.
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:55 PM
May 2016

As I said, I'm NOT voting for Trump. I will be voting for a candidate who doesn't have blood on her hands.

However, how many people died, became homeless, were maimed, tortured, imprisoned, because of Hillary's votes and support of the wars and killing by our government? Are you "responsible" for the deaths, etc, that she voted for?

Will you be facilitating more deportations, more futile wars, more neolib policies around the world causing more deaths, more poverty, more suffering, if Hillary continues her previous policies if elected?



nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
12. Why should it? Only the willfully ignorant or low info'ers
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:15 PM
May 2016

Can ignore the stench of corruption.

There is rage against the machine.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
14. The article was long, informative and effective.
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:24 PM
May 2016

It took awhile to read, so those finger-poised posters who slammed it starting one minute after, well, of course they didn't read it.

So I call Bull on their opinions. Take them to a place and knee jerk there.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
15. Yep, I see it all the time on twitter, more and more
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:27 PM
May 2016

All these shenanigans going on regarding the primaries by the Hillary campaign seem to be driving more and more Bernie supporters to #BernieOrBust

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
17. Every single act of corruption
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:39 PM
May 2016

just makes us stronger and sure of what direction to take, and what direction NOT to take.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
21. Liberals and progressives are not wanted by, nor do we need, the Democratic Party,
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:16 PM
May 2016

but they need us.

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