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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:36 PM May 2016

Why a Civil Case Over Emails Could Hurt Hillary Clinton More Than the FBI

http://time.com/4337518/hillary-clinton-emails-judicial-watch-civil-lawsuit/

Every year for more than two decades, the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch has filed scores of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for documents from the federal government, many in pursuit of a favorite target: Bill and Hillary Clinton. Now, with FOIA case No. F-2013-08812, they may finally have hit the political jackpot.

Two close Clinton aides, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, will testify under oath this month and next Judicial Watch announced today. The judge in the case said earlier this month he may force Clinton herself to testify after the first round of interviews is completed. That has set up the prospect of the Democratic front-runner for the White House facing off under oath against one of her most dogged pursuers as early as July, just months before the November election.

It is telling that Judicial Watch’s potentially big win has come not from any dark conspiracy it has uncovered, but from what it has not. The judge has limited the group to a narrow line of inquiry designed to answer a simple question: why did Clinton set up a private server and use it for all her work e-mails as Secretary of State? Clinton says it was matter of convenience, but over the course of the trial, the judge has given credence to the allegation that she was intentionally thwarting the federal laws ensuring government transparency.

And that’s why the messy, drawn out drama over case No. F-2013-08812 matters. Clinton is no stranger to allegations that amount to nothing. From Whitewater to Benghazi her political opponents have tried and failed to find evidence that she committed a crime. A law enforcement official familiar with the separate FBI investigation into how classified information got onto her private server says there is little evidence of a crime there either, though the probe is continuing.

But Clinton may have violated civil law if she intentionally thwarted FOIA or the Federal Records Act, which requires public officials to take a number of steps to preserve and make public their work related documents, according to experts and judges handling the matter in the courts. Which means that for many voters it will be Clinton’s trustworthiness that is on trial in the FOIA case.
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Why a Civil Case Over Emails Could Hurt Hillary Clinton More Than the FBI (Original Post) antigop May 2016 OP
"...for many voters it will be Clinton’s trustworthiness that is on trial in the FOIA case." Human101948 May 2016 #1
The aides are set to give interviews next week. NWCorona May 2016 #2
Why do they always say things like "little" or "scant"? inchhigh May 2016 #3
It's rare that there's NO evidence on either side in such a complex matter. Jim Lane May 2016 #5
K & R AzDar May 2016 #4
 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
1. "...for many voters it will be Clinton’s trustworthiness that is on trial in the FOIA case."
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:41 PM
May 2016

This going to increase her negatives. Fair or not, Hillary has a reputation for being untrustworthy. A few more points in negative ratings will put her neck and neck with Trump. That's where things really go downhill.

inchhigh

(384 posts)
3. Why do they always say things like "little" or "scant"?
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:57 PM
May 2016

"A law enforcement official familiar with the separate FBI investigation into how classified information got onto her private server says there is little evidence of a crime there either, though the probe is continuing. "

Why don't they say NO evidence? Doesn't "little" evidence mean the same as "some" evidence?

Doesn't that mean "there is some evidence of a crime there" or "there is a little evidence of a crime there".

Why not, "there is NO evidence of a crime there "?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
5. It's rare that there's NO evidence on either side in such a complex matter.
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

In the unlikely event of a criminal trial of Clinton or anyone else over this, the prosecution would certainly introduce evidence that she had a private server in her home. That's part of the case and it's evidence. So, yes, there's "some" evidence.

People on DU sometimes read "evidence" to mean "definitive proof". I'm guessing that the LEO who provided this leak is instead using it in the legal sense. A given fact is admissible in evidence if it makes the stated proposition more likely than it otherwise would be. Not established with certainty, not even more likely than not, just more likely than it otherwise would be.

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