Very very strange strategy by establishment DNC

[kcjohn1]

Am amazed the route they have taken on this NV convention issue. First they blatantly steal it. And instead of trying to defuse the situation they use this as an opportunity to denigrate Bernie and his supporters.

For what aims? We have being told the primary is over and there is no way Bernie can win. If this is the case, what is the upside of antagonizing Bernie and his supporters? Wouldnt the most logical approach even if you think they are in the right and the assholes are Bernie/his supporters to play this down, and try to unite the party ahead of the general?

My theory. 1) DNC and the whole lot are incompetent. How can else can you explain losing so many seats in congress and statehouse? 2) Through their incompetence, they think they can strong arm Bernie and his supporters through submission. What they don't realize is the Bernie campaign is being fueled by the hate for the establishment, including the current iteration of the DNC, and actions like this only embolden further hate for the DNC.

[reddread]

1. because California cometh

and it has been all about intimidation every single inch of the way.

[dchill]

2. Today's a pretty big day, too...

Primary-wise.

[reddread]

4. lets look for any relationships or similarities

I think their intimidation wasnt aimed at voters in these primaries but party officials.

[dchill]

9. So that was Boxer's role?

Could be. She kinda muffed it, though.

[Skwmom]

12. Her role was to incite and play the victim card.

[dchill]

16. On the surface.

She succeeded at that. But sometimes, success is failure.

[notadmblnd]

3. They have to create chaos if they are to attain their stated goal

which is to destroy Bernie Sanders. Don't think for one minute that HRC, the DNC and their minions isn't behind what happened in NV.

How better to destroy him than to plant protesters who attempt to incite violence?

[reddread]

8. they will continue this campaign for years

one way or another. bots are cheap.

[notadmblnd]

11. They're spending a million to disrupt social media

You know they're desperate or they wouldn't still be here.

[reddread]

17. hard job acting completely assured while responding to every little spark

as if the sky were gonna fall.

obviously some different measure of success applies.
perhaps some broader goal?

[JackRiddler]

32. "Protesters" neither incided nor committed violence...

and no one has produced evidence otherwise. Assuming by "protesters" we mean the side with the reason to protest, the Sanders supporters.

The main violence committed was in the form of violence against process and democracy, by the chair.

The incitement was in the rules violations from the chair and then the crowning fuck-you performance from the California lady on the big screen. Which of course was protested, as it would be by anyone with self-respect.

And Camp Clinton and Corporate Media put a spin on it and turned protest into "violence."

[notadmblnd]

33. Exactly, this was all orchestrated by the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

[dchill]

5. They are shit-storming the whole thing...

So that it looks like the only bad thing about the Nevada Democratic Convention was Bernie Sanders. They would LOVE that to be the takeaway. So would the MSM.

[Tarc]

6. Steal? Um, no. Clinton won the state with 52.6%, which Sanders supporters tried to undermine

[Jackie Wilson Said]

10. what "actually " happened? Put aside any opinion or partisanship, please recap

the basics for those of us with jobs and dont have all day to read everything

please
thanks

[Tarc]

15. why don't you start here;

From Bernie Sanders Supporters, Death Threats Over Delegates

[Jackie Wilson Said]

25. Just heard radio show caller who was there who said for the most part the Bernie people

were not violent, but that a couple of their organizers had said the night before that they were not to leave when asked to or something like that

[Tarc]

28. Yea. Cause when I want my hard-hitting reliable news, I always set aside the New York Times

in favor of "a call-in to a radio show said..."

Run along, now.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

29. The run along comment is beneath you to say to a Democratic party liberal like myself who

aggressively supports all candidates both physically and financially.

Now, since I reported what I heard I have seen video that makes it seem a bit more violent than that caller said.

[djean111]

7. Been wondering that, myself.

It kind of feels like the GOP has indicated they would rather see Hillary than Trump as president, and, maybe, have guaranteed GOP votes? There honestly is not anything the HRC camp can say about ANYTHING that would get me to vote for a Third Way Corporate hawk. Maybe they are cutting their losses while letting their inherent ugliness out for all to see.

[disillusioned73]

13. The campaign continues according to the the most recent posts around here..

they are "all in" (pun intended) on this NV thingy.. it's the start of a broader plan, with Boxer involved they may have something brewing in California as well..

I hope Bernie does well tonight.. maybe that is also a source for distraction, maybe internals aren't looking so rosey - she did stump in Kentucky after all..

[felix_numinous]

14. Totally true

Anyone old enough to remember co intel pro can see the patterns. Document everything.

[AgerolanAmerican]

18. We're being Sister Souljah'd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Souljah_moment

[mindwalker_i]

19. This is a very interesting question

It seems to me that the establishment, including DWS, Hillary, and many others, really and truely don't understand that many people don't like the shit they're doing. It may be that they don't care, and they ignore it. Seeing all the Hill supporters around here, there's a definite sense that they believe they are right, in a religious sort of way. "Democrat" is more of a worship word, and policy ideas really don't matter except as a way to push their candidate. If those positions change, they'll follow right along.

Then they accuse us of wanting "free stuff" and of being Thugs, in the same sense that Trayvon Martin was called a thug. It's the same language used by the true-believer conservatives, who will follow and defend their people no matter what.

Worship, blind adulation, and blindly following the party/religion are exactly what we don't need.

[azurnoir]

20. what's to be amazed about? they pull these shenanigans on Saturdays when no one is looking

go into the huddle on Sunday and viola produce the distraction stories starting promptly on Monday

[closeupready]

21. I think your theory is 100% correct.

Can't really add anything. K&R

[Lodestar]

22. According to this article, the DNC logic/strategy seems very clear -

Both the Hillary Clinton campaign and the national Democratic Party have expressed little interest in accommodating the demands of Bernie Sanders supporters. The Hill recently reported, the Clinton campaign has already promised to resist the efforts of Bernie Sanders delegates to incorporate Sanders’ progressive policy platforms, like tuition-free public colleges and universal healthcare, into the Democratic Party platform.

In fact, Clinton is appealing to the Bush family’s donors and moderate Republicans, rather than pivoting to bring in the legions of Bernie Sanders supporters she needs to win the general election. Barring a miracle, it seems unlikely the Democratic Party is willing to move left and is instead banking on prevailing in November by bringing in establishment Republicans.

http://usuncut.com/politics/sanders-says-dnc-rigging-convention/

[closeupready]

24. Which is why I posted what I did in this thread yesterday:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027836064

[Lint Head]

23. It is not beneath the Trump crew to use subversive tactics.

If Trump is willing to pretend to be someone else, he's willing to ok Lee Atwater type tactics. Personally I think he is using October surprise tactics and obviscation right now. Sending up trial baloons, straw men and using scorched earth is the trait of an insecure narcissistic psychopath. And he is definitely one.

http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/02/psychologist-explains-trump-is-literally-a-narcissistic-psychopath/

[Merryland]

26. I think you're right.

They are not all that smart.

[Kip Humphrey]

27. AT ALL COSTS, including exposing their complete disregard for democracy.

reaffirms my support for Bernie and reminds me how very important Bernie is for our country.

Oh, and every time Fortress Hillary violates our democratic tenets, I send Bernie $27.

WIN! Bernie WIN!

[seabeyond]

30. Facts matter. To some anyway.

https://medium.com/@nvdems/the-facts-about-the-nevada-democratic-state-convention-on-saturday-106cc5db3d83#.wjjg87ewh

* Based on the county convention results, Bernie Sanders had 2,124 delegate slots to the State Convention and Hillary Clinton had 1,722 delegate slots to the State Convention.

* On Saturday at the State Convention, after all of the alternates were seated, Hillary Clinton filled 1,695 of her delegate slots and Bernie Sanders only filled 1,662 at the State Convention — giving Clinton a 33-delegate margin of victory.

* Clinton only had 27 delegate positions vacant on Saturday. Sanders left 462 vacant. Clinton filled 98 percent of her available delegate slots at the State Convention, and Sanders only filled 78 percent of his available delegate slots.

* In plain terms, the Clinton campaign organized and got nearly all of their delegates to the State Convention. The Sanders campaign did not.

* Six of the 64 potential delegates were seated as delegates after investigation.

* The remaining potential delegates were ineligible for two main reasons: 1) They were not registered Democratic voters in Nevada by May 1, 2016, and 2) Their information — such as address, date of birth and name — could not be found or identified, and they did not respond to requests from the party and campaigns to correct it.

* Only eight of the ineligible delegates even attempted to register at the State Convention.

* The so-called “minority report” about these ineligible delegates was not written by the Credentials Committee — it was written by national Sanders campaign staff on site. A member of Sanders’ National Delegate Operations Team drafted and arranged for a member of that committee to attempt to deliver an incendiary report that caused chaos and violence at the convention. It was inaccurate, misleading and subsequently discredited by the Credentials Committee.

* The Credentials Committee, the panel that made decisions on these issues, was co-chaired by supporters of both campaigns and the membership of the committee was also equally divided between supporters of both campaigns. This was done to ensure that the entire process was fair, transparent and accountable for both campaigns and their supporters. The committee worked diligently and cooperatively all day, under incredibly trying circumstances, to be fair and impartial in its work.

[Mnpaul]

31. and by the looks of it

they aren't done losing yet.