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hill2016

(1,772 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:03 PM May 2016

CNN: Sanders aide instigated supporters to "take over" the Nevada convention

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/index.html


But new audio obtained by CNN shows a senior Sanders aide -- on the eve of the Nevada convention -- encouraging the senator's supporters try to "take over" the convention, change party rules and continue the "revolution" that Sanders has long campaigned on.
"You should not leave," Joan Kato, the national delegates director, told Sanders supporters in a meeting last week at the Rumor Boutique Hotel. "I'm going to repeat that, unless you are told by someone from the campaign ... that you can leave, you should not leave."
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CNN: Sanders aide instigated supporters to "take over" the Nevada convention (Original Post) hill2016 May 2016 OP
Nice. Maybe that's why Sanders hasn't addressed this. MineralMan May 2016 #1
More like the media sickens... catnhatnh May 2016 #63
The plot thickens... nt eastwestdem May 2016 #2
And then we have eye witness accounts counter nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #3
There is AUDIO obamanut2012 May 2016 #27
People are still looking for the chairs nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #31
apparently you didn't hear your side found the chairs the new narrative DLCWIdem May 2016 #64
Actually there is video of that nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #65
Clinton Supporters pretending to be Sander's supporters create chaos in NV notadmblnd May 2016 #4
Your world seems scary... nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #20
So profound notadmblnd May 2016 #30
I hate to add complex thoughts to those that are clearly doing mental gymnastics to make it seem anotherproletariat May 2016 #37
Yeah, cause it not like it is something her campaign said they would do or anything like that. notadmblnd May 2016 #39
It really does! eastwestdem May 2016 #45
lolz obamanut2012 May 2016 #28
They did such a great job of following the Sanders Campaign Official's instructions though. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #40
It wouldn't be the first time there was a Clinton plant in the Sander's campaign. notadmblnd May 2016 #43
OK. Sander's campaign officials are actually HRC spies. He must be one inept MFker then. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #46
It would be huge news except for the fact Bernie is already becoming old news. nt BootinUp May 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author TheSarcastinator May 2016 #8
that's not a window, it's a mirror TheSarcastinator May 2016 #12
I agree with you Andy823 May 2016 #47
So basically, Once again, it appears, from the top, it is actually Sanders and Co. trying to cheat seabeyond May 2016 #21
So, not leaving is cheating? dchill May 2016 #32
Yup. Tried to steal delegates from Hillary after she won, FAILED at that and than had Maru Kitteh May 2016 #62
Uh oh. Someone cue the music!!! MADem May 2016 #7
Damn! It was planned all along! workinclasszero May 2016 #9
And over a 2-3 delegate swing — like that would close the 290 delegate gap. brush May 2016 #49
IKR? workinclasszero May 2016 #50
They should plan on going to jail if they disturb the peace. dubyadiprecession May 2016 #54
Sure do. puffy socks May 2016 #59
So that's it KingFlorez May 2016 #10
Well, that's hard to counter. But Sanders' supporters will just blame it on Clinton. Hoyt May 2016 #11
Look up thread obamanut2012 May 2016 #29
Hillarians Get the Vapors Once Again! TheSarcastinator May 2016 #13
Trumpian tactics nt firebrand80 May 2016 #14
Which = Hillarian tactics TheSarcastinator May 2016 #15
Where's the audio? Luminous Animal May 2016 #16
^^^ grasswire May 2016 #17
Turn on CNN Demsrule86 May 2016 #23
Truth is coming out. Disgusting behavior from the Berniebros. nt LexVegas May 2016 #18
Bull SHIT!!! pangaia May 2016 #19
CNN should provide the full audio mythology May 2016 #22
It is pretty clear to me Demsrule86 May 2016 #24
Yeah, I don't quite see what's terrible about this...n/t TCJ70 May 2016 #35
Wow, so it wasn't an unruly mob, it was an organized mob. Unreal. Does Bernie know about this? YouDig May 2016 #25
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #26
Good. PoliticalPothead May 2016 #33
Before or after the cheating....CNN omits half the story! ClintonNewNetwork! ViseGrip May 2016 #34
Put the Lotion on its skin before it gets the hose again. MFM008 May 2016 #36
Uhh, the audio clip posted in the CNN piece Hell Hath No Fury May 2016 #38
So it appears pressbox69 May 2016 #41
Meh. Conventions were routinely untidy in past centuries. randome May 2016 #42
Hey we almost agree on something Armstead May 2016 #48
GDP has become a caricature of itself. randome May 2016 #55
Agitation is not Registration. Bernie resents that his relevance LuvLoogie May 2016 #44
Much ado about nothing. Live and Learn May 2016 #51
Anyone disturbing the peace at the nevada convention needed to be arrested.. dubyadiprecession May 2016 #52
"Don't Leave" Is Not Equal to "Take Over" davidlynch May 2016 #53
Worst. They need to go back to journalism 101 nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #56
What she said isn't an instigation of a takeover. herding cats May 2016 #57
Wow. auntpurl May 2016 #58
fascist tactics...same thing the Brownshirts did in Germany in the 1930's. It's sad, & disgusting Bill USA May 2016 #60
Telling people to stay is hardly evidence of instigating a take over Beowulf May 2016 #61

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
63. More like the media sickens...
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:12 PM
May 2016

Don't leave unless we tell you to (IE:Ignore Hillary supporters) becomes a coup attempt???? As Eddie Murphy would say "Get the fuck out!".

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
64. apparently you didn't hear your side found the chairs the new narrative
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:23 AM
May 2016
The chair was being lifted over his head but he was talked down.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
4. Clinton Supporters pretending to be Sander's supporters create chaos in NV
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

Objective- Destroy Senator Sanders campaign as was leaked a few weeks ago by her campaign.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
37. I hate to add complex thoughts to those that are clearly doing mental gymnastics to make it seem
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

that Sanders misfortune is all Hillary's fault.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
39. Yeah, cause it not like it is something her campaign said they would do or anything like that.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:21 PM
May 2016

You might want to try exercising your brain sometime. Much more invigorating than just grazing with the rest of the herd.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
40. They did such a great job of following the Sanders Campaign Official's instructions though.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

How the fuck do you 'splain that away?

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
46. OK. Sander's campaign officials are actually HRC spies. He must be one inept MFker then.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

Good thing he'll never get anywhere near the presidency. "Whew!"

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TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
12. that's not a window, it's a mirror
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:13 PM
May 2016

For someone who thinks chalk scrawls and language like "bitch" are arrest-able felonies, you sure have no problem calling people foul names yourself. Someone here is pathetic, and it isn't Team Bernie.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
47. I agree with you
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:30 PM
May 2016

Some here are pathetic, it's the trolls the come here to stir up shit and try and divide the boards, and it will be a pleasure to see them go once the nominee is chosen. In the mean time watch out for the trolls and please don't feed them.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. So basically, Once again, it appears, from the top, it is actually Sanders and Co. trying to cheat
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:30 PM
May 2016

and blaming Clinton especially since they were unsuccessful. No wonder Sanders is staying quiet. Wow. He made a huge mess this time, if this bares out.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
62. Yup. Tried to steal delegates from Hillary after she won, FAILED at that and than had
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

a massive cry-baby temper-tantrum about it. But more like a gaggle of grown-ass ASSHOLES in diapers having a temper-tantrum. A fairly organized one at the direction of SBS a campaign official, as it turns out.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
59. Sure do.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:56 PM
May 2016

Remember when kids tried to have another Woodstock moment in 1994?

I think many of his supporters want a replay of the late 1960s.Some of Bernie's older supporters , like Bernie, want to reminisce and in their nostalgic fervor and try and relive the past, while the Millennials wanna-be hippies can get themselves arrested in a modern day 1968 Democratic Convention and brag to their children about how brave they were.

Probably make a video much like this before they go:



TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
15. Which = Hillarian tactics
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:15 PM
May 2016

They are BFFs, after all. Look at the three of them, sharing a funny joke. I wonder who they are laughing at?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
19. Bull SHIT!!!
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

The woman said do not leave unless We in the Sanders campaign say to.-
DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Considering past history of the DNC and previous primaries and caucuses...


Double DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Have a banana..

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
22. CNN should provide the full audio
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

Telling delegates to stay in itself isn't nefarious. In fact it's the smart thing to do given how delegates shift based on how many show up. I'd need the specific tone, words and context to make any useful conclusion about if it's the Sanders campaign trying to do something out of bounds.

Demsrule86

(68,574 posts)
24. It is pretty clear to me
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:08 PM
May 2016

And Bernie is a disgrace who deserves to lose. I thought for some time now he was attempting to blow up the election and hand Trump the win...now we see the truth coming out...spite and malice...on Bernies part.

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PoliticalPothead

(220 posts)
33. Good.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

I hope the Sanders campaign urges its supporters to "take over" the Democratic National Convention as well.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
36. Put the Lotion on its skin before it gets the hose again.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

What is wrong with these people? They screw up their registration and then make a spectacle of themselves.
Any time you make TRUMP look like the sane one is a problem.
I realize the Sanders campaign is trying to crawl out of the well of despair so they dont have to put the lotion on its skin before it gets the hose again.


 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
38. Uhh, the audio clip posted in the CNN piece
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

does NOT have anything of the sort on it. Where is the FULL clip???

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
42. Meh. Conventions were routinely untidy in past centuries.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:26 PM
May 2016

I don't see the Sanders supporters as being all that 'threatening' despite what one or two yahoos have said. Much of it has been blown out of proportion, imo.

On the other hand, the Sanders supporters claiming they are being treated like children does a disservice to their chosen candidate. Neither side is more victimized than the others. Bad eggs from both. Big deal, move on.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
55. GDP has become a caricature of itself.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:46 PM
May 2016

These are loony times and it's affecting even those whom I look up to.

BUT WE CAN ALL BELIEVE IN SOMETHING!


[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

LuvLoogie

(7,003 posts)
44. Agitation is not Registration. Bernie resents that his relevance
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

relies upon the Democratic party. The pressures of a national campaign have stirred his darker self. He needs a rest, a sabbatical. I hope that he can take a leave of absence from his Senate duties. This should not be the apex of his career.

dubyadiprecession

(5,711 posts)
52. Anyone disturbing the peace at the nevada convention needed to be arrested..
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:39 PM
May 2016

That is the only way to deal we these trouble makers.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
57. What she said isn't an instigation of a takeover.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:52 PM
May 2016

At least not the clip linked in the article. It sounds SOP talk when explaining the process to your delegates.

People need to calm down, step back, take a breath and think for a moment. CNN is making hay trying to get us to fight for their cameras. That's what they do, it's how they make their money. A lot of people take cable commentary as literal news. The reality is some of the twits they let speak neither know, nor care about facts or reality.


Beowulf

(761 posts)
61. Telling people to stay is hardly evidence of instigating a take over
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

And nothing like a coordinated response from the Powers that Be with one of Hill's corporate BFF's supplying the megaphone. They're scared and they damn well should be. "Be civil while I shit on you, and then join us" isn't going to be tolerated. And it sure as hell isn't a winning strategy.

Back in January I said, as did many Bernie supporters at the time, that I was not going to vote based on fear any longer. Here we are in mid-May and all the Democratic establishment has for a message is "unify or else we will have Trump - it's all on you." No, it's not. Bernie supporters like me were very clear from the very beginning that we were looking for a candidate to vote FOR. What we saw in Nevada was frustration meeting its last straw.

Sure, tell me you don't need me to win in November. And express it with as much smugness as you can muster. Truth is, you do need me and voters like me. You can tell yourself we have no where else to go, but this time you are wrong. If you can't convince me to vote for your candidate, how are you going to convince independents? I'm lowing hanging fruit. Bernie is right, you could have invited his supporters in, it would have been uncomfortable for you, but it would have been the correct thing for the long term health of the party. Then I remember why the DLC/Third Way/Clinton wing of the party came into being in the 80's - to crush progressives, to repudiate New Deal policies, to curry favor from the economic elite. Well, curry on!

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