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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:44 PM May 2016

Sure looks like a lot of VERY SCARED Hillaryans here today.

Here is the news.

Bernie is not going to drop out no matter what kind of cray cray poo you throw.

It is just not going to happen.

You are wasting your energy.

It's MAY! The flowers are blooming, the birds are singing, and spring has sprung.

Take a deep breath. Think about how delicious it will be when one of our candidates beats Donald.

Use your energy for something positive today.

Beating up Bernie is not positive. If Hillary is going to win, what's the point of beating Bernie up and further alienating his supporters?

The more you hammer Bernie, the more Rove likes it!!!

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Sure looks like a lot of VERY SCARED Hillaryans here today. (Original Post) grasswire May 2016 OP
I've always wondered why they keep attacking Sanders d_legendary1 May 2016 #1
Ask Bernie fans the same. JaneyVee May 2016 #3
So if you believe Hillary will be the nominee pmorlan1 May 2016 #18
Have Hillary Clinton or many of her supporters ever considered leading with comfort and class? PufPuf23 May 2016 #38
I tried that months ago here on DU leftynyc May 2016 #42
The tone of the campaign was not set on DU though it may seem that way to us habitual here. PufPuf23 May 2016 #55
+1 auntpurl May 2016 #68
Aw... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #96
I do leftynyc May 2016 #106
yup lapfog_1 May 2016 #80
Why? d_legendary1 May 2016 #45
plenty of proof of violence Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #97
People booing and getting rowdy d_legendary1 May 2016 #109
The death threats and voice mails of horrific hate.. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #110
Call the police instead of the media d_legendary1 May 2016 #112
Plenty of Violence. Just ask any Iraqi of Afghan Mother how they Ferd Berfel May 2016 #121
they are making noise to command today's news narrative grasswire May 2016 #12
The AP is adding to the noise d_legendary1 May 2016 #60
that's called swiftboating grasswire May 2016 #70
Winning isn't enough. Progressive policies must also be discredited. arcane1 May 2016 #24
Absolutely Correct! d_legendary1 May 2016 #63
Jealousy pdsimdars May 2016 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #2
What's the best track so far? NWCorona May 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #54
I'll check out those right now. NWCorona May 2016 #57
Glass Eyes must be the hot single as it's almost impossible to find it on YouTube NWCorona May 2016 #69
The latest Bernie meltdown makes me so proud to be a Hillz supporter. JaneyVee May 2016 #4
I haven't seen Bernie meltdown yet. NWCorona May 2016 #9
the meltdown is only in your mind virtualobserver May 2016 #13
LOLOLOL grasswire May 2016 #16
Last I saw he hadn't risen to this latest crop of bullshit Jester Messiah May 2016 #19
Where?Where? coco77 May 2016 #84
What's that old Shakespeare line? Shadowflash May 2016 #5
Grasswire, here you go! kstewart33 May 2016 #7
Conservatives are always so original. frylock May 2016 #81
alienation only makes us stronger virtualobserver May 2016 #8
There's a word for people who delight in using threats and intimidation to scare people. NuclearDem May 2016 #10
yes, and Bill and Hill ought to stop it. grasswire May 2016 #17
I'm really glad the national press is finally seeing the Sanders campaign for what it is. NuclearDem May 2016 #29
LOLOLOL grasswire May 2016 #31
Just pulling the good guy/bad guy narratives right out of their ear, aren't they. ancianita May 2016 #73
or some other orifice. nt grasswire May 2016 #75
Bernie not winning is a forgone conclusion. His supports trying to burn Rome on the way out is. timlot May 2016 #11
this is what democracy looks like grasswire May 2016 #20
Us? Codeine May 2016 #26
You are so agitated you are becoming incoherent... Human101948 May 2016 #77
seemed perfectly coherent to me PaulaFarrell May 2016 #88
Lots of negative Sanders news out today...so it just looks like your sides is being attacked, when anotherproletariat May 2016 #14
do you have links to support the assertion of violence? grasswire May 2016 #27
Ummm...every cable news network is covering it... anotherproletariat May 2016 #35
It should be pretty easy for ya then .99center May 2016 #67
Yeah, the guy in Suits Jude the Obscure May 2016 #66
Prove your last sentence, please. sadoldgirl May 2016 #79
This from one of the prime shitslingers of right wing Codeine May 2016 #21
evidence is not propaganda grasswire May 2016 #28
Judicial Watch and BENGHAZI!! Codeine May 2016 #30
yes grasswire May 2016 #32
She made her choices...and the best they can do is call her uninformed, libdem4life May 2016 #113
Its primary day ,I think that's time and a half bahrbearian May 2016 #22
K & R AzDar May 2016 #23
K&R One Black Sheep May 2016 #25
This is being orchastrated by DNC in order to lock Sanders and his supporters out of the convention. notadmblnd May 2016 #33
likely so grasswire May 2016 #34
I know. I'm going to keep repeating it notadmblnd May 2016 #36
Thankfully leftynyc May 2016 #49
And that is your goal, right? notadmblnd May 2016 #59
Yawn leftynyc May 2016 #65
Spoken like a true right winger notadmblnd May 2016 #100
Spare me the drama queen bullshit leftynyc May 2016 #107
You must have been waiting all night to write that to someone notadmblnd May 2016 #111
No - I'm usually a terrific winner leftynyc May 2016 #115
You're the only one producing drama queen bullshit that I see. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #114
Shrug leftynyc May 2016 #116
Ok, I'm pointing out your every post in this thread. And... ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #117
I have no idea what leftynyc May 2016 #118
Ooohhhhh! But you DO care! ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #119
And the first step was "Disqualify" which is what we're seeing all over DU today arcane1 May 2016 #40
The DNC and Clinton's strongest tool now is fear. eom PufPuf23 May 2016 #41
orchestrated fear. notadmblnd May 2016 #44
I am certain talking points are distributed each day eom. PufPuf23 May 2016 #58
lolz obamanut2012 May 2016 #46
something smells fishy One Black Sheep May 2016 #48
Maybe so, but... potone May 2016 #78
I hope he does win them both. notadmblnd May 2016 #99
Indeed. They always are (with a few exceptions). N/T potone May 2016 #102
Nope. Not scared. Not screaming paranoid. Aghast, yes. nolabear May 2016 #37
Bernie and his supporters are in this to the contested convention! amborin May 2016 #39
Damn right... Yurovsky May 2016 #47
Dear Penthouse, I never thought this would happen to me. JoePhilly May 2016 #101
Hey, didja see that a Bernie superdelegate flipped to Clinton today?... SidDithers May 2016 #43
Where does this "scared" shit come from? hack89 May 2016 #50
Thank you fellow mariner MFM008 May 2016 #53
Oh bullshit. Cannot be fear when we won. Why do you do that, and where are you seeing fear? seabeyond May 2016 #51
LOLOL grasswire May 2016 #52
For 8 months Clinton has been well ahead. For 8 months Sanders supporters accuse of us being afraid seabeyond May 2016 #61
The reason to still keep the heat on Sanders is that he and his supporters are being harmful to the Zynx May 2016 #56
The turd way is harming the party, not Bernie. B Calm May 2016 #62
Just watched some CNN saying there was Violence. WHERE? Tons of Videos out there of NV Convention Joob May 2016 #64
catapulting the propaganda nt grasswire May 2016 #71
The Clinton machine did it on purpose. They could care less about 2 lousy delegates, they were B Calm May 2016 #74
Team Sanders told them to be disruptive. It starts at the top. It is on Sanders. seabeyond May 2016 #83
It was the Nevada DNC that started the disrupting. B Calm May 2016 #85
No, it was Sanders people wanting a rule change because they were losing, throwing a tantrum seabeyond May 2016 #89
Sure, that's what happened. B Calm May 2016 #91
Facts. seabeyond May 2016 #93
Do you really think we will.. coco77 May 2016 #87
I expect little to nothing from you but chaos and disruption. seabeyond May 2016 #90
that is slander grasswire May 2016 #98
Once again, do you have evidence of this? TCJ70 May 2016 #103
Last time I saw a group of people win on fear..... NCTraveler May 2016 #72
You think Hillary supporters are scared? auntpurl May 2016 #76
They're living in bizarro land, as Bernie's "revolution" devolves into a violent joke. Metric System May 2016 #86
The Clinton playbook hasn't worked very well in this cycle. Beowulf May 2016 #82
Probably because it's over 20 years old. They simply have no strategy for alternative media. reformist2 May 2016 #95
Bernie and his supporters are the ones attacking Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #92
And, let's not forget how much they've endeared Bernie supporters during this... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #94
You nailed it! Total K & R iwannaknow May 2016 #104
Yup agree jpmonk91 May 2016 #105
Fine, stay in. But he will not be the nominee because of MATH. End of story. RBInMaine May 2016 #108

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
1. I've always wondered why they keep attacking Sanders
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

if her royal highness has already claimed the crown. Not sure why they aren't attacking Trump as much as they're attacking Sanders.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
18. So if you believe Hillary will be the nominee
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:53 PM
May 2016

Why don't you believe Carville?

"I think you've got to let this play out a little bit, you know," Carville said. "Bernie Sanders does not need Hillary Clinton, because he's not going to be the nominee. Hillary Clinton needs Bernie Sanders because she's going to be the nominee. You have to understand walking into that negotiation you're not in an equal position."


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/democratic-strategist-hillary-needs-bernie

PufPuf23

(8,756 posts)
38. Have Hillary Clinton or many of her supporters ever considered leading with comfort and class?
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

Hillary Clinton et al could have been the adults but re-used the tactics that contributed to the Clinton loss in 2008.

There is no argument that Hillary Clinton started out the front runner in 2016 as Clinton was in campaign mode far before other potential candidates; IMO Clinton and the DNC discouraged other candidates and treated Clinton like an incumbent and presumptive nominee.

Sanders has had results far more than anyone expected plus he is refreshing and wants to transform the USA away from neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism, Many of us agree and have had this commitment for decades.

My conclusion is that Hillary Clinton and her supporters want the antiwar liberal Democrats to leave the party as they drive the final stake into the New Deal.

Why? They expect that the moderately sane GOP of Reagan and the Bushes will join in a coalition away from the crazy that is the GOP.

Hillary Clinton carries the torch for Reagan, both Bushes, Bill Clinton, and to a lesser extent POTUS Obama.

Hillary Clinton has the current approval of personas like Kissinger, Kagan, and Koch.

Is this person suitable to be POTUS or CIC?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
42. I tried that months ago here on DU
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:16 PM
May 2016

and got nothing but insults and venom in return. Same as I'm getting now but now I don't look like a pathetic coward.

PufPuf23

(8,756 posts)
55. The tone of the campaign was not set on DU though it may seem that way to us habitual here.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

Hillary Clinton had a similar tone to her campaign in 2008.

Recall that birtherism started with a hint from Clinton.

Recall that the PUMA movement came from the Hillary Clinton campaign.

My manners have slipped.

A far higher proportion of Clinton supporters at DU are consistently rude and invalidate other with different opinions.

Sanders may well not prevail but the campaign still goes on despite the near constant refrain that Sanders should quit.

Many of us are good, informed Democrats of long standing that do not like the neo-liberal takeover of the Democratic party.

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
80. yup
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

Democrats have become Eisenhower Republicans (with more tolerance to minorities) and the Republicans have become the John Birch Society.

Not sure what that leaves for FDR / Kennedy Democrats.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
45. Why?
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

There is a difference between discussing Clinton's choices (Iraq war vote) that are a matter of record vs. rumors that Bernie Supporters were a violent bunch at the convention (which so far there is no video evidence of supporters getting violent)

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
110. The death threats and voice mails of horrific hate..
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:28 AM
May 2016

Not just booing but yelling obscene language at women

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
112. Call the police instead of the media
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

Put some people in jail instead of playing the victim card on national TV

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
12. they are making noise to command today's news narrative
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:51 PM
May 2016

Otherwise the media might report on the progress of the criminal and civil cases against HRC.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
60. The AP is adding to the noise
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

by presenting the event organizer's POV that violence occurred at the convention and that Sanders supporters were the culprits. Its a news organization legitimizing a non-story.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
24. Winning isn't enough. Progressive policies must also be discredited.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

Otherwise, Hillary would have to own up to some of her rhetoric.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
63. Absolutely Correct!
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:28 PM
May 2016

If you recall she said that the Frank-Dodd law is "progressive" since it reigns in Wall Street (which it doesn't). We need to build on that by writing more weak legislation that allows corporations to get away with more shit. That's progress!

Response to grasswire (Original post)

Response to NWCorona (Reply #6)

Response to NWCorona (Reply #6)

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
69. Glass Eyes must be the hot single as it's almost impossible to find it on YouTube
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

I liked full stop the most but both are really good! I'm gonna check them out with my headphones when I get home as it sounds like there's some good panning in those songs.

I really haven't listened to Radioed in a while but always liked their early stuff. After Prince died I listened to this song quite a few times and got me curious about the new stuff from them. Thanks for the tip!

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
19. Last I saw he hadn't risen to this latest crop of bullshit
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:53 PM
May 2016

The only meltdown today is coming from wild-eyed spittle-flinging Hillarites, infuriated that he's not legitimizing their Queen's latest provocation.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
5. What's that old Shakespeare line?
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:49 PM
May 2016

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"


They seem to be awfully insecure for having a inevitable candidate that no one can beat.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
7. Grasswire, here you go!
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

Here is the news.

Hillary is not going to drop out no matter what kind of cray cray poo you throw.

It is just not going to happen.

You are wasting your energy.

It's MAY! The flowers are blooming, the birds are singing, and spring has sprung.

Take a deep breath. Think about how delicious it will be when one of our candidates beats Donald.

Use your energy for something positive today.

Beating up Hillary is not positive.

The more you hammer Hillary, the more Rove likes it!!!
___

Grasswire, swap Bernie's name with Hillary's and that's our news as Hillary supporters!

Way to go!

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
29. I'm really glad the national press is finally seeing the Sanders campaign for what it is.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

And I thank you for your diligence in bringing it to light so early on; a bunch of hateful, angry children constitutionally-incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions.

It makes me glad that Bernie Sanders will never be President.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
31. LOLOLOL
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:01 PM
May 2016

hateful angry children....wow

Some of us here are older than dirt, and peaceniks to boot.

I am sorry that Hillary can't calm her troops today. It's May. Spring. Get a little love in your heart!

 

timlot

(456 posts)
11. Bernie not winning is a forgone conclusion. His supports trying to burn Rome on the way out is.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:51 PM
May 2016

I'm so over this fight though. The general election is going to be a grind and I'm not going to repeat the mistake I made in 2012 by following the daily campaign news. I'm going to vote for whoever the Democratic candidate is and let the chips fall. We are all just one vote anyway. Don't drive yourself crazy folks.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
77. You are so agitated you are becoming incoherent...
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

Take a breath and try rereading before you post.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
14. Lots of negative Sanders news out today...so it just looks like your sides is being attacked, when
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:51 PM
May 2016

really we are just discussing the current events.

Also, when Sanders supporters become violent and threaten Democratic officials, it is worth speaking out against.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
27. do you have links to support the assertion of violence?
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:55 PM
May 2016

I'd like to see them.

Oh, and did you see the news of the celebrity Hillary supporter who physically attacked a woman simply because she supports Bernie?

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
35. Ummm...every cable news network is covering it...
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:11 PM
May 2016

Large group violence makes more of an impact than small ones, so unfortunately, I've never heard of the one you mentioned.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
67. It should be pretty easy for ya then
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:41 PM
May 2016

"Large group violence"
Can you provide a link to these riots you speak of? I'm sure the women who were followed and attacked by her supporter felt the impact.

 

Jude the Obscure

(50 posts)
66. Yeah, the guy in Suits
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:33 PM
May 2016

He plays Robert Zane, Mike's love interest's father. Now that they are renewing for Season 6, I hear the Zanes are on the outs.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
21. This from one of the prime shitslingers of right wing
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

propaganda? Beating up Clinton is not positive. The more you hammer Hillary the more Rove likes it!!!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
28. evidence is not propaganda
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

Thank you for the opportunity to post this:

U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth ruled on March 29 that “where there is evidence of government wrong-doing and bad faith, as here, limited discovery is appropriate, even though it is exceedingly rare in FOIA cases.”

And so the process of discovery continues.

5/16/2016

Judicial Watch announced today that it has filed a proposed order for discovery with a federal court that seeks the testimony of Hillary Clinton about her use of non-state.gov email account(s) for official State Department business. Judicial Watch’s discovery plan also seeks the testimony of Cheryl Mills, Clinton’s former chief of staff; and Jacob “Jake” Sullivan, former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff, as well as other current and former State Department officials. Judicial Watch proposes the testimony take place over 12 weeks.

Today’s filing comes in a July 2014 Freedom of Information (FOIA) lawsuit seeking records and communications in the Secretary’s Office related to the since discredited talking points used by then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice to describe the nature of the September 11, 2012 Benghazi attack ( Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:14-cv-01242)).

Clinton’s proposed testimony would cover the search in response to Judicial Watch’s FOIA request and, according to the filing:

searches of the Office of the Secretary for emails relating to the September 12, 2012 Benghazi attack and its aftermath, including searches for the Accountability Review Board, congressional inquiries, other FOIA requests, and the preparation of Secretary Clinton’s testimony before Congress on January 23, 2013;

the State Department’s policies, practices, procedures and/or actions (or lack thereof) to secure, inventory, and/or account for all records, including emails, of Secretary Clinton, prior to termination of employment with the State Department; and

the use of non-state.gov email account(s) to conduct official State Department business by Secretary Clinton and other officials and staff in the Office of the Secretary;

Judicial Watch’s other proposed witnesses include:

Cheryl Mills
Jacob Sullivan
Lauren Jiloty, former special assistant to Clinton
Monica Hanley, former Clinton aide
Clarence Finney, State Department records management official
30(b)(6) witness(es) (designated State Department witness(es) who testify on behalf of the agency)

Judicial Watch also seeks documents about the State Department’s Benghazi document responses and the handling of non-State.gov emails of Clinton and other top State officials, in particular:

All documents that concern or relate to the processing of any and all searches of the Office of the Secretary for emails relating to the September 11, 2012 Benghazi attack and its aftermath, including but not limited to:
searches for records for the Accountability Review Board;
searches in response to congressional inquiries (including requests from the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform dated September 20, 2012, October 2, 2012, October 29, 2012, and November 1, 2012);
searches in preparation of Secretary Clinton’s testimony before Congress on January 23, 2013; and
searches in response to FOIA requests, including but not limited to the FOIA request submitted by Plaintiff in this case.

Such documents would include the tasking, tracking and reporting records for such searches. Forms DS-1748 and any “search slips,” “search tasker,” “search details,” shall also be considered responsive.

All communications that concern or relate to the processing of all searches referenced in Document Request No. 1 above, including directions or guidance about how and where to conduct the searches, whether and how to search Secretary Clinton’s email, and issues, problems, or questions concerning the searches and/or search results.

All records that concern or relate to the State Department’s policies, practices, procedures and/or actions (or lack thereof) to secure, inventory, and/or account for all records, including emails, of Secretary Clinton, Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin and Jacob Sullivan prior to their termination of employment with the State Department.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
32. yes
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

Too bad that Hillary didn't handle her responsibility better as SoS.

This was all so unnecessary.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
113. She made her choices...and the best they can do is call her uninformed,
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

forgetful, made a mistake, etc. Not the qualities one looks for in a president. At worst, she is a crook. See last sentence.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
59. And that is your goal, right?
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:24 PM
May 2016

You just want to see Sanders supporters banned. That would be so cool. Then maybe the HRC campaign can offer $$ to the admins for the site and rename it Camp Clinton where everyone thinks and says the exact same thing? Good times, huh?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
65. Yawn
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

Take your outrageous outrage someplace else. I'm not interested. I want anyone who doesn't support the Democratic nominee to be banned....I don't care who they support in the primary.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
100. Spoken like a true right winger
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

Nothing like a good old voter suppression campaign in an attempt to ensure your weak candidate will win the primary, right?

I don't know how you all will manage to do it in the GE though as Republicans are masters of election fraud. Can you tell us how they do it?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
111. You must have been waiting all night to write that to someone
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:53 AM
May 2016

I didn't see any drama in my post, nor did I complain about any damn rules.

Good to know, that I apparently hit a nerve.

Talk about drama.

Are you always such a poor winner?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
115. No - I'm usually a terrific winner
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

AND loser. But after 6 months of being called names and being attacked for my beliefs, I simply stopped caring. I'm also rarely on the internet at night so I have no idea what you're referring to there.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
117. Ok, I'm pointing out your every post in this thread. And...
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

...I'm NOT moving on and I would hardly ever do so at your behest, not especially considering that if I did, I'd miss all the drama queen bullshit you are producing every time your fingers alight upon your keyboard.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
119. Ooohhhhh! But you DO care!
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:24 PM
May 2016

And that you claim you don't is yet another example of your drama queen bullshit every time your fingers hit the keys!

Thank you for continuing to entertain with your drama queen bullshit commentary!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
40. And the first step was "Disqualify" which is what we're seeing all over DU today
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

Hillary Clinton's campaign is taking new steps to try and disqualify Bernie Sanders in the eyes of Democratic voters, hoping to extinguish the argument that he is an electable alternative for the party's presidential nomination.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-democrats-unity/

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
48. something smells fishy
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

And if they try to lock Sanders and his supporters out, the DNC would only ensure a Trump victory. That would be like committing suicide for the Democratic party.

potone

(1,701 posts)
78. Maybe so, but...
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:14 PM
May 2016

I think the reason they are all out today is to draw attention away from the primaries in Kentucky and Oregon, which they fear that Sanders will win.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
99. I hope he does win them both.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

Either way it goes, Hillary people will either be sore losers or sore winners.

nolabear

(41,937 posts)
37. Nope. Not scared. Not screaming paranoid. Aghast, yes.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

Heck, there's so much to be aghast at I can't decide what order to put them in.

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
47. Damn right...
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:18 PM
May 2016

The corporate ownership of Team Clinton needs to be put on notice that they can't just buy the Democratic Party without a fight.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
101. Dear Penthouse, I never thought this would happen to me.
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:07 PM
May 2016

Stories that start like that are more believable.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
50. Where does this "scared" shit come from?
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:19 PM
May 2016

challenging BernieBro bullshit does not mean we are scared. It means we are challenging your bullshit. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
51. Oh bullshit. Cannot be fear when we won. Why do you do that, and where are you seeing fear?
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

Because people are tired of this crap Sanders and his people are doing to be destructive of Democratic Party.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
61. For 8 months Clinton has been well ahead. For 8 months Sanders supporters accuse of us being afraid
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:26 PM
May 2016

Since Super Tuesday, Clinton has been the winner, Sanders supporters just does not believe it.

Yet,..... This little game of yours and others telling us how afraid we are is so beyond stupid.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
56. The reason to still keep the heat on Sanders is that he and his supporters are being harmful to the
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

party. Yes, I am concerned about the party. Politics needs parties to function. This is a disgraceful and twisted end to this process, which has been a foregone conclusion since March 15th.

I pray that Hillary wins Kentucky tonight to firmly shut the door on this whole thing. At that point, Bernie's necessary delegate pick-ups in the remaining states is laughably high, given that so much of California will have already cast their ballots via early voting.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
64. Just watched some CNN saying there was Violence. WHERE? Tons of Videos out there of NV Convention
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:31 PM
May 2016

NO VIOLENCE. I'm so glad Bernie WOKE ME UP this election. If Bernie doesn't win DONE with the Democratic Party.

That convention was Undemocratic as fuck and it's ignored. TONS of VIDEOS out there of it. MSM doesn't show those videos. MSM doesnt show the videos where the VOTES happened. Hmmm. GEE I wonder why

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
74. The Clinton machine did it on purpose. They could care less about 2 lousy delegates, they were
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:06 PM
May 2016

painting Bernie delegates as being disruptors all in preparation for the National Convention.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
89. No, it was Sanders people wanting a rule change because they were losing, throwing a tantrum
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

because they did not get their way.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
87. Do you really think we will..
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

shut up and just go along to get along just because Bernie tells us to,we are not robots.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
72. Last time I saw a group of people win on fear.....
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:03 PM
May 2016

BTW, I'm not scared. I think it's funny that is even a thought.


auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
76. You think Hillary supporters are scared?
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:09 PM
May 2016

Honey, you are having what you'd call a "losing the news cycle" day. This is a TERRIBLE day for the Bernie campaign. FFS, Harry Reid is basically begging Bernie to say SOMETHING to condemn the violence in NV. That is BAD optics.

Beowulf

(761 posts)
82. The Clinton playbook hasn't worked very well in this cycle.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:38 PM
May 2016

The playbook calls for candidate Clinton to ignore the left as much as possible because they have no where else to go and then tack right, which is where the constituencies with which they are most comfortable lie. But this cycle the left did not lie down and she had to spend way too much time and resources addressing the left. So, yes, Camp Hillary is acting sacred. The left isn't going away. Their instinct is to crush the left, except they need it to win elections. Yet, they also lack the constitution to affect a genuine coalition. They made this bed, they will need to lie in it.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
92. Bernie and his supporters are the ones attacking
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:16 PM
May 2016

Hillary people should push back. Sander supporters have made it clear there will be no unity. What is the incentive to sit back and get beat up by Sanders without pushing back? Party unity? NO. They made it clear that is gone.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
94. And, let's not forget how much they've endeared Bernie supporters during this...
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

I pretty much think you could have put a fork into that demeanor L O N G ago, as it was... DONE!

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