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IMO, the chances of a Sanders 3rd party run (Original Post) B2G May 2016 OP
Never happen leftynyc May 2016 #1
Heaven forbid someone should lose. Codeine May 2016 #2
Truth. nt LexVegas May 2016 #4
It's not the loss, it's how you get there. nt B2G May 2016 #5
For the win GulfCoast66 May 2016 #15
IMO, that's nonsense. MineralMan May 2016 #3
As are your search results posts. nt B2G May 2016 #8
Sanders takes sore loser to a new level. nt LexVegas May 2016 #6
Sorry, you are clueless regarding my Senator cali May 2016 #7
This poster ^^^^ is a fantastic example Codeine May 2016 #11
First time an indy would win, and break through the two party shit show. ViseGrip May 2016 #9
Without a doubt Sanders would win in that situation. Heck, he would win now, hands down, if GE were JimDandy May 2016 #12
I'd be willing to bet $10,000 that's not true. Zynx May 2016 #17
If I had it, I'd take that bet. JimDandy May 2016 #20
I'd be willing to borrow to get there. Not a chance he would win that. Zynx May 2016 #24
Quite Romneyesque timmymoff May 2016 #40
aFREAKINGmen. +1,000 nt Land of Enchantment May 2016 #28
aFREAKINGmen. +1,000 nt Land of Enchantment May 2016 #29
Many states have sore loser laws Cali_Democrat May 2016 #10
They don't apply to presidential candidates, though, in most states. n/t JimDandy May 2016 #13
But often times states use filing deadlines to limit sore losers. nt Cali_Democrat May 2016 #19
Texas' May 9th deadline is the only one that had passed. The majority of the deadlines come up JimDandy May 2016 #34
the DNC is not responsible for bernie's integrity. perhaps he is not, either nt msongs May 2016 #14
They will have to draft him via a write in campaign then, because JimDandy May 2016 #16
Nah. I don't see Bernie going third party. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #18
It's starting to make sense. Vinca May 2016 #21
Even if that happened, the result would likely be the result would get put into the House. Zynx May 2016 #26
He won't do it. JRLeft May 2016 #22
And I think the "October surprise" will be an indictment. pdsimdars May 2016 #32
If that happens Biden will be the nominee. JRLeft May 2016 #33
He will endorse Hillary enthusiastically and stump for her tirelessly auntpurl May 2016 #23
He's more "Democratic" than most democrats. So......LOL! nc4bo May 2016 #25
I rather doubt that. Your perspective seems a bit off. Don't count those chickens just yet. Land of Enchantment May 2016 #30
Guess we'll see. auntpurl May 2016 #31
His career is over regardless Txbluedog May 2016 #35
Have you come up with a catchy name yet? procon May 2016 #27
Nope. Chances are slim and none. Bernie has way more in common with Hill than either ancianita May 2016 #36
How? Will he get picked up by the Greens or such? Retrograde May 2016 #37
He won't Beowulf May 2016 #38
It is too late to get on the ballot in most states and sore loser laws will keep Sanders off ballots Gothmog May 2016 #39
The party establishment's misconduct will have an effect, but not that one. Jim Lane May 2016 #41
Unlike the DNC, he is a man of honor, he said he won't nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #42
He wouldn't do it Doctor Jack May 2016 #43
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
2. Heaven forbid someone should lose.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

I guess this is what happens when a generation never subjected to the word "no" becomes politically active.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. This poster ^^^^ is a fantastic example
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:01 PM
May 2016

of a Sanders supporter. Cali is dedicated, passionate, and devoted without being an asshole.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
12. Without a doubt Sanders would win in that situation. Heck, he would win now, hands down, if GE were
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:01 PM
May 2016

held today.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
24. I'd be willing to borrow to get there. Not a chance he would win that.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:41 PM
May 2016

Most of the Democratic vote would stay with Hillary and he'd pull very little from Trump. The consequence would be a Trump presidency and probably by a good margin.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
10. Many states have sore loser laws
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

You can't get your name on the GE ballot if you run for the nomination of a political party and lose.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
34. Texas' May 9th deadline is the only one that had passed. The majority of the deadlines come up
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:58 PM
May 2016

after the 2 main party's conventions. Losing presidential primary candidates have gotten on the ballot in all 50 states in the past. It is very difficult to do so though, as the process is labor intensive (getting the required petition signatures in each state.) and time sensitive due to the varied deadlines around the nation.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
16. They will have to draft him via a write in campaign then, because
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:24 PM
May 2016

barring a really egregious action, I doubt that Sanders would run as a 3rd party candidate.

And a draft campaign for president has not worked yet, but then there has never before been such an admired, trustworthy, genuine and knowledgeable people's candidate as Bernie Sanders. He actually has a decent possibility of winning as a draftee and I doubt he would turn down such a win.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
21. It's starting to make sense.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:32 PM
May 2016

Bernie could be the third party and maybe the GOP would run someone halfway sane as a fourth party. The two-party system is just not working this time around. The irony is the people who, out of disgust, have changed their party affiliation to Indie are now doubly screwed because they can't vote in most of the primaries and are stuck with a choice of either bad or worse.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
26. Even if that happened, the result would likely be the result would get put into the House.
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:42 PM
May 2016

And we'd lose that for sure. Our system is not institutionally designed for multiple parties. If we had proportional representation, that would be one thing.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
23. He will endorse Hillary enthusiastically and stump for her tirelessly
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:41 PM
May 2016

Anything less and his career in Democratic politics is over.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
25. He's more "Democratic" than most democrats. So......LOL!
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:42 PM
May 2016

Sanders will be fine - don't worry your purdy lil ole head about him.

Cream always rises.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
35. His career is over regardless
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:58 PM
May 2016

Remember the zclintons never forgive or forget---if she wins the GE there will be hell to pay and worse if she loses. Either way he's done for and he knows it

procon

(15,805 posts)
27. Have you come up with a catchy name yet?
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:44 PM
May 2016

Tip: Don't use words like extortion or blackmail, probably hard to fundraise off 'em, unless your name is something Guido, you know?

Spoiler would word, but it already has a bad rep, so that's out too.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
36. Nope. Chances are slim and none. Bernie has way more in common with Hill than either
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

have with Trump.

And that's how a unified party's going to see it, too.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
37. How? Will he get picked up by the Greens or such?
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

The minor parties have been holding their own primaries, and I don't think any of the winners are going to step aside for Sanders. Getting a new party started up and on the ballots in enough states to give him an electoral majority is long, hard, and tedious work - state ballot rules are designed to hinder these kind of start-ups.

A national write-in campaign? I don't know enough about the election laws in all the states to say whether this is feasible.

Beowulf

(761 posts)
38. He won't
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:18 PM
May 2016

because he said he wouldn't. Besides, even if he changed his mind, it's well past deadline in most states for him to get on the ballot. No, we will announce his support for Hillary and he will campaign, though not so much for her as against Donald Trump and the Clinton camp should be delighted with that as that would be where he would be most effective for her. After the election, that's when things could get interesting. He's called for a movement and that would be when organizing such a movement would begin, likely seeking out existing groups with whom to partner.

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
39. It is too late to get on the ballot in most states and sore loser laws will keep Sanders off ballots
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

in many other states

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
41. The party establishment's misconduct will have an effect, but not that one.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:51 PM
May 2016

If Bernie wanted to run third party, he could have announced that a year ago. He would have been welcomed as the Green Party nominee with open arms. Jill Stein, the presumptive nominee, would certainly have stepped aside for him. I don't think he even would have had to worry about winning primaries because as I understand it the Greens hold few if any primaries. He would have been on the ballot everywhere for the general election, as was Nader.

He didn't do that. His reason for not doing it -- that he doesn't want to split the vote and help elect the Republican nominee -- is still perfectly valid. He expressly referred to the lesson of 2000 in explaining that he didn't want to follow Nader's path.

The real effect of all that's gone down will be to reduce the effectiveness of Bernie's endorsement of anyone else in the general election. The "Bernie or Bust" viewpoint is based primarily on political principles, but the BoB ranks will be swelled by people who believe, with good reason, that Sanders was not treated fairly. Some of those people will be swayed, by Bernie's endorsement, to hold their noses and vote for the Democrat anyway -- but some won't.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
43. He wouldn't do it
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

The risk of splitting the dem vote and ending up with Trump as president would be too great. I'm pretty sure Sanders hates Trump. He isn't going to something that makes the odds of him winning extremely high.

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