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Joob

(1,065 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:56 PM May 2016

Really? A Hillary supporter ACTUALLY PUNCHES a woman, and Bernie Sanders supporters are violent

Where's the violence? Did a Bernie supporter Punch a Woman? No.

There was rude angry voters? Uh yeah.Tends to happen when things aren't democratic in our free country. Violence? No.

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Really? A Hillary supporter ACTUALLY PUNCHES a woman, and Bernie Sanders supporters are violent (Original Post) Joob May 2016 OP
"when things arent democratic"? you really believe a 3 million vote lead is nothing but fraud? nt msongs May 2016 #1
What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything when millions haven't voted yet? Joob May 2016 #2
There was no 3 million vote lead in Nevada. Ken Burch May 2016 #3
As a statistician, your argument makes no sense. anotherproletariat May 2016 #4
ONE thrown chair, that no one saw up front, or HAS evidence of. Beats ONE punched woman. Great stats Joob May 2016 #5
Also, the Bernie violence happened at a political meeting. auntpurl May 2016 #7
What violence? A possible yet not verified thrown chair? Joob May 2016 #8
So, the NY Times, Rolling Stone, and AP are all lying. auntpurl May 2016 #9
It's sad when people focus on a possible thrown chair, when democracy was thrown out the window Joob May 2016 #17
Did the media cover this.. coco77 May 2016 #36
They are all repeating what Ralston said. winter is coming May 2016 #22
No, they're just lazy Bradical79 May 2016 #25
Here's the infamous "chair throw" hellofromreddit May 2016 #15
Show me proof that any chairs were thrown. kiva May 2016 #11
Are you saying that all the people in the room, including media are lying? anotherproletariat May 2016 #14
... kiva May 2016 #21
What people? Bradical79 May 2016 #26
Your argument makes no sense. NWCorona May 2016 #18
Thats different. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #6
Have you checked every Bernie supporter in America? JaneyVee May 2016 #10
Yeah but The Wire though ContinentalOp May 2016 #12
And Treme. I loved Treme. DookDook May 2016 #19
Bernie supporter here, but has this been confirmed? Arrested for is not the same thing. JCanete May 2016 #13
You talking about this guy? B Calm May 2016 #16
At least nobody here is defending him. NWCorona May 2016 #20
+10000 auntpurl May 2016 #23
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #24
Now you are just flat out lying -nt Bradical79 May 2016 #27
Hardly. NuclearDem May 2016 #29
I really don't know how to respond to someone as agressively dishonest as you Bradical79 May 2016 #31
Well, that's fitting, because I don't know how to respond to someone NuclearDem May 2016 #32
Just keep lying aparently Bradical79 May 2016 #33
Coming from the campaign that wouldn't know honesty or integrity if it bit them NuclearDem May 2016 #34
Yeah, sure, except they don't exist... k8conant May 2016 #28
Really? kiva May 2016 #30
Umm, well only a few are.... NWCorona May 2016 #37
Mayor Nutter says.. coco77 May 2016 #35

msongs

(67,394 posts)
1. "when things arent democratic"? you really believe a 3 million vote lead is nothing but fraud? nt
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

Joob

(1,065 posts)
2. What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything when millions haven't voted yet?
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

And duh-doyy, this is about the NV Convention. Obviously.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
3. There was no 3 million vote lead in Nevada.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:05 PM
May 2016

Why DO you hate the progressive candidate and his supporters, btw? If he hadn't run, your candidate would still be 100% DLC/Third Way/Blue Dog on the issues...and we don't ever need to nominate someone who'd be that far to the right again.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
4. As a statistician, your argument makes no sense.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:08 PM
May 2016

Even if we were to just look at these two incidences, and use total numbers of votes for Clinton and Sanders...then find the percentage of aggressive/violent people (one person on the Clinton side, and several hundred on the Sanders), you would see why more attention is being paid to the Nevada story. Just because a thrown chair didn't hurt anyone does not make it less of a violent act.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
5. ONE thrown chair, that no one saw up front, or HAS evidence of. Beats ONE punched woman. Great stats
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

You must be good.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
7. Also, the Bernie violence happened at a political meeting.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

The actor punching the woman (which is a horrible act and he should have been arrested, which he was) was between two private citizens.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
8. What violence? A possible yet not verified thrown chair?
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016

vi·o·lence
ˈvī ə ləns/Submit
noun
behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.
synonyms: brutality, brute force, ferocity, savagery, cruelty, sadism, barbarity, brutishness More
strength of emotion or an unpleasant or destructive natural force.
"the violence of her own feelings"
synonyms: intensity, severity, strength, force, vehemence, power, potency, fervency, ferocity, fury, fire
"the violence of his passion"
LAW
the unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force.

I only see a violent attack on our Democracy. A voice vote denied. And a Democratic process Dictated

Joob

(1,065 posts)
17. It's sad when people focus on a possible thrown chair, when democracy was thrown out the window
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

in that convention. No, I'd say people DENY it. Yet, there's video evidence. I don't care if it was Hillary supporters that got denied I would still be outraged! I wouldn't stand for it! A voice vote shut down, Democracy used as a Dictatorship. If you guys had the voice vote but it was ignored, and you couldn't contest it. I don't care who the supporters were because that's an assault on what I and many others have fought for. An assault on our freedom and Democracy.

This feels Republican vs Democrat.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
36. Did the media cover this..
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:54 PM
May 2016

we are hearing Bernie supporters are violent I have heard nothing on this..

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
25. No, they're just lazy
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

Everyone just ran with what one guy wrote without verifying sources. Not the first time it has happened, and won't be the last. The whole thing was recorded and multiple eyewitnesses said no chair was thrown that they could tell.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
11. Show me proof that any chairs were thrown.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

Can't? Then what are you left with? A bunch of people shouting bad words?

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
14. Are you saying that all the people in the room, including media are lying?
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

Does everyone hate poor little old Bernie that much?

In your world, if it doesn't appear on video, then it couldn't have happened?

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
26. What people?
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

Everything seems to goes back to one man, and looks like someone posted a video of the incident showing it didn't happen.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
18. Your argument makes no sense.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

A better variable would be to use the rally attendance totals as that's when the likelihood of acts of violence would happen.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
13. Bernie supporter here, but has this been confirmed? Arrested for is not the same thing.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:45 PM
May 2016

Yes, it's stooping pretty low of Hillary supporters to get behind any expected efforts by the Hillary campaign and the rest of the establishment to paint Bernie supporters as violent, and I think people should start taking a hard look at themselves and the lengths they are willing to go to vilify the other candidate with hearsay and anecdotal evidence to prop up theirs. But I'm going to reserve judgement on this one until Wendel Pierce is found guilty.

For that matter, once he has(assuming it goes that way), it may be fair to bring up in counter to broad brush claims about Bernie supporters, but unless to point out hypocrisy(as this op does) I for one won't be dredging it up to characterize Hillary supporters at large. It doesn't represent them any more than any single or curated sample group represents Bernie supporters.

Response to NWCorona (Reply #20)

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
29. Hardly.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:32 PM
May 2016

DU's Sanders supporters have made an absolutely shameful display the last few days. Justifying, defending, and excusing death threats against the NV party chair (hell, an OP with quite a few recs published her private fucking phone number), justifying and excusing the abuse thrown at Senator Boxer, and once again blaming the party for their own damned misbehavior.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
31. I really don't know how to respond to someone as agressively dishonest as you
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:42 PM
May 2016

There were no riots or a bunch of people excusing death threats. You're just being intentionally dishonest to stir up shit.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
32. Well, that's fitting, because I don't know how to respond to someone
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:44 PM
May 2016

as divorced from reality as you.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
33. Just keep lying aparently
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

Seems to be your mo. It's pretty obvious you lack any kind of honesty or integrity. Have fun helping Trump get elected, I guess.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
34. Coming from the campaign that wouldn't know honesty or integrity if it bit them
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016

I'll take that as a compliment.

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