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YouDig

(2,280 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:04 PM May 2016

Reid urges Sanders to condemn violence in Nevada

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) had a 10-minute conversation with presidential contender Bernie Sanders Tuesday to discuss the violent outbursts by his supporters at the state party convention in Nevada over the weekend.

Reid made sure that Sanders was aware of just how ugly things got — including incidents of chair throwing — and expects his colleague will condemn the violence soon.

“He and I had a very long conversation,” Reid told reporters. “I laid out to him what happened in Las Vegas. I wanted to make sure he understands what went on there, the violence and all the other bad things that have happened there.

“He said that he condemns that. I’m confident he does. I’m confident he’ll be saying something about it soon,” added the Senate leader, who endorsed Hillary Clinton for president after she won the Nevada caucuses in February. “I’m hopeful and very confident that Sen. Sanders will do the right thing.”


http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/280206-reid-urges-sanders-to-condemn-violence-in-nevada

Harry Reid seems to think he was able to talk some sense into Bernie. Hopefully he's right, and Sanders will condemn the actions of his delegates, and apologize for that delusional press release he put out.
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Reid urges Sanders to condemn violence in Nevada (Original Post) YouDig May 2016 OP
I hope so. auntpurl May 2016 #1
This was a rumor started by a reporter who is a Hillary supporter. JimDandy May 2016 #23
+ 1,000,000,000 Land of Enchantment May 2016 #55
me too hill2016 May 2016 #2
Maybe at his victory speech tonight? yeoman6987 May 2016 #28
only responsible reaction.... too much to ask?? Bill USA May 2016 #3
What a surprise from the corrupt corporate tool who wants to hide records from the IGS. Skwmom May 2016 #4
OH! There was violence!? Where? You'd think some Hillary supporter would jump on recording that. Joob May 2016 #5
Reid is the angel on Sanders shoulder. Weaver is Satan. joshcryer May 2016 #6
It really does feel like Reid is trying to save Bernie from himself auntpurl May 2016 #8
He absolutely is. joshcryer May 2016 #9
Reid called in favors in Nevada to cheat on behalf of Clinton. AtomicKitten May 2016 #7
No apology needed. No chairs were thrown and no violence occured at all. JimDandy May 2016 #10
Denial of facts works as an internet poster. Not a presidential candidate. YouDig May 2016 #11
There is no evidence of violence. NONE. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #17
Well, if you ignore the multiple independent reports from credible journalists. YouDig May 2016 #18
They've produced nothing other than heresay from Clinton campaign ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #19
Of course, it was David Brock. He controls everything. YouDig May 2016 #21
Hi David how are you? ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #22
And this is why nobody believed what Bernie supporter say. YouDig May 2016 #24
Whhhaaaaahh!!!whaaaahh!! Whaaaahhhh!! Bunch of fucking ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #25
That was, umm, different. YouDig May 2016 #26
LOL, I Think He Told You To Get Off His Lawn.... Grassy Knoll May 2016 #54
Here is your 'Chairs thrown' video AgingAmerican May 2016 #60
They are simply repeating the claims of the one reporter who started the rumor: Jon Ralston. JimDandy May 2016 #39
And I believe you, since you were there in the newsrooms of all the different journals. YouDig May 2016 #44
You are being obtuse. No conspiracy required. Simply the will to repeat unconfirmed info from one JimDandy May 2016 #51
Okay, then show the video, instead of insulting Bernie! sadoldgirl May 2016 #40
You think the NY Times, Rolling Stone, and AP are all lying? auntpurl May 2016 #12
They are simply repeating the claims of the one reporter who started the rumor. JimDandy May 2016 #14
Were the NY times, Rolling Stone, or AP present? AgingAmerican May 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #58
Good luck with that, Harry! Number23 May 2016 #13
I'd love to ask Reid did any of those casino workers ever register? nc4bo May 2016 #15
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #16
The chair? scscholar May 2016 #20
Hard to believe this got hidden when I've seen HRC supporters call Sanders similar. nc4bo May 2016 #29
I urge Reid to condemn the Nevada Democratic party. dchill May 2016 #27
Hey Reid, how about you condemn the travesty that occurred at the Karma13612 May 2016 #30
There was no violence in Nevada AgingAmerican May 2016 #31
Of course, all those independent reports were all part of the conspiracy. YouDig May 2016 #32
"Independent reports" Um, Hillary supporters are not 'independent reports' AgingAmerican May 2016 #36
NYT, AP, WP, even the Nation reported it. YouDig May 2016 #37
They were bamboozled by their sole source: Jon Ralston a Hillary Shill. JimDandy May 2016 #46
Yes, they are the ones bamboozled. Obviously. YouDig May 2016 #49
Be the HillBill Camp HERO and produce the evidence of violence at the convention. JimDandy May 2016 #52
If he does or not... coco77 May 2016 #34
The chair-throwing contingent will keep throwing chairs, but it will be good when Bernie YouDig May 2016 #35
Dirty Harry ... so DIRTY, the corrupt State Senator in Nic Pileggi's "CASINO" is based on Reid. AzDar May 2016 #38
You can put an eye out with sidewalk chalk, you know. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #41
There was. no. violence. Video evidence proves it. senz May 2016 #42
You should call the NYT and AP and the Nation and WP and explain that to them. YouDig May 2016 #45
Links? senz May 2016 #47
Here's the NYT story. "Thrown chairs" is the first sentence. YouDig May 2016 #50
NYT is in the bag for the corrupt establishment candidate. senz May 2016 #53
When will Reid and Clinton apologize for the violence they've perpetrated on democracy? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #43
Was Reid there? Was he a witness? sadoldgirl May 2016 #48
Sanders has already made it clear that he opposes violence of any sort by his followers. Vattel May 2016 #56
Why don't you go another round with your treadmill, Reid? n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #57
I thought Bernie has condemned the violence? ? I'm a Hillary person, but prayin4rain May 2016 #59

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
1. I hope so.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:05 PM
May 2016

I think it's very damaging if Bernie does not say something about this. Violence has no place in politics.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
23. This was a rumor started by a reporter who is a Hillary supporter.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:44 PM
May 2016

He, nor anyone else, has produced any evidence that violence occured at the convention. Many, many videos of the convention are on the net, including a series of them that captured tbe proceedings from start to finish. None show any violence. PERIOD.

The real story is the undermining of democracy by the Clinton camp at that convention. The corruption is voiced in detail by Roberta Lange in video after video of the Nevada State Convention. They are all available on Youtube now.

The most egregiously corrupt part of that whole convention was when the Chair created a "temporary" rule to make the results of all the delegate voting at the County Convention level in NV null and void because it didn't favor the chair's candidate.

That "temporary" rule is very reminiscent of the Bush v Gore SCOTUS decision in 4 ways:

1. The court, like the Chair above made the ruling to "elect" their candidate;
2. The two rulings were deemed "temporary" and not to be used in any other decision;
3. The corrupt decisions were openly displayed to the whole world in all their naked guile and
4. Both are unprecedented in the history of the US.

Unprecedented.

No other State Dem Party has ever declared the legitimately arrived at delegate counts of their 2nd tier convention to be null and void and to instead use the delegate count from the caucuses because it favored their candidate.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
5. OH! There was violence!? Where? You'd think some Hillary supporter would jump on recording that.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:08 PM
May 2016

No, no violence. You have an actual Hillary supporter that was arrested for punching a woman who was Bernie supporter. THAT'S VIOLENCE.

Only thing there was disfranchised voters that were angry, FOR good reason.
Look at all the videos, no violence. Maybe harsh words. THAT'S IT.

But let me make it clear. Violence is WHEN someone actually HURTS someone, like that Hillary supporter

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
6. Reid is the angel on Sanders shoulder. Weaver is Satan.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:09 PM
May 2016

I really feel for Sanders. Weaver has convinced him to go to really low places. For no reason but to line his and Tad Devine's pockets.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
8. It really does feel like Reid is trying to save Bernie from himself
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:17 PM
May 2016

and his more extreme, thuggish supporters.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
7. Reid called in favors in Nevada to cheat on behalf of Clinton.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

Jon Ralston / USA Today (February 20, 2016):

I’d like to congratulate the winner of the Nevada Democratic caucus: Harry Reid. The story of the Nevada caucus is that a lame-duck senator and a self-neutered union conspired to revive the Clinton campaign in a remarkable bit of backroom maneuvering that helped Madame Secretary crush Sanders in Clark County, the key to winning almost any statewide election. [Because the city of Las Vegas with all the big casinos are in Clark County.] The senator decided he would single-handedly save the state for Clinton. A gamble? Yes. But like going all-in with a straight flush. And it paid off.


Clinton voters bused in to caucus w/o registering:



“They’re letting them into the caucus right now without registering them,” a woman can be heard yelling as a steady line of people stream by.

“They’re going to do the count. They’re all going to be part of the count,” anther woman can be heard saying in reply.

“But they’re not registered,” a man says.

“They will register after this,” the woman can be heard saying.

“Clinton supports caught BREAKING the rules,” Porter writes in the video description. “This just happened at caucus location in Nevada. Hillary supporters were not registering to caucus, which is NOT allowed by the Democratic Party.”


JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
10. No apology needed. No chairs were thrown and no violence occured at all.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

Not a single incidence of violence can be found on any of the dozens of videos of the convention. And the convention was filmed all the way through.

This rumor was started by a reporter who supports Clinton and he hadn't produced any evidence for what he said.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
18. Well, if you ignore the multiple independent reports from credible journalists.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:39 PM
May 2016

The adults in the room know what happened. The internet conspiracy theorists will never accept that, but what else is new.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
19. They've produced nothing other than heresay from Clinton campaign
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

Zero evidence to support the bullshit narrative by David Brock and Hillary Clinton.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
39. They are simply repeating the claims of the one reporter who started the rumor: Jon Ralston.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:05 PM
May 2016

That reporter has produced zero evidence of his claim and there are dozens of videos of the convention out there. Not a single one shows any violence.

At this point, lacking any evidence, this claim of violence can only be found to be false.

This poorly researched claim from a single reporter (who is a Hillary Shill), and and its repeating, sans evidence, throughout the main stream media, is very reminiscent of what Capehart did. Capehart's claim that it wasn't Bernie Sanders in the photo of the university student's protest over housing discrimination on campus in Chicago was printed in all the big media too.... and proven to be absolutely false. The media all had egg on their face. That's what happens when we no longer have a robust '4th estate' in the US.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
44. And I believe you, since you were there in the newsrooms of all the different journals.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:09 PM
May 2016

And because none of them ever gather facts for themselves. Not the NYT or AP or any of the others.

And obviously Jon Ralston is part of the conspiracy. It goes without saying.

You see, it's a very very big conspiracy. Really, other than the people throwing chairs or calling in death threats, everyone else is part of the conspiracy.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
51. You are being obtuse. No conspiracy required. Simply the will to repeat unconfirmed info from one
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

source without any corroborating evidence.

If they had evidence, such as photos, videos, eyewitness reports those media outlets would have produced it.

How embarrassing for Rachel Maddow that she sunk to showing stock footage of chairs thrown around at some other event, because she had nothing else.

If you have proof of violence at the convention, please produce it. You would be the HERO of the HillBill Camp if you could.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
40. Okay, then show the video, instead of insulting Bernie!
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

YOU don't have it?? Nobody has it either.
Therefore it should be called a lousy smear!

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
12. You think the NY Times, Rolling Stone, and AP are all lying?
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:25 PM
May 2016

When everyone in the world seems to be against you, it might be paranoia, you know?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
14. They are simply repeating the claims of the one reporter who started the rumor.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:34 PM
May 2016

That reporter has produced zero evidence of his claim and there are dozens of videos of the convention out there. Not a single one shows any violence.

At this point, lacking any evidence, this claim of violence can only be found to be false.

This poorly researched claim by a reporter, and its repeating throughout the main stream media, is very reminiscent of what Capehart did. Capehart's claim that it wasn't Bernie Sanders in the photo of the university student's protest over housing discrimination on campus in Chicago was printed in all the big media too.... and proven to be absolutely false. The media all had egg on their face. That's what happens when we no longer have a robust '4th estate' in the US.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
33. Were the NY times, Rolling Stone, or AP present?
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

There were dozens of video cameras rolling, but no chairs or punches thrown. The whole thing is made up.

Response to auntpurl (Reply #12)

Response to YouDig (Original post)

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
29. Hard to believe this got hidden when I've seen HRC supporters call Sanders similar.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:54 PM
May 2016

Yea some DUers, showing out and not in a good way.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
30. Hey Reid, how about you condemn the travesty that occurred at the
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

Nevada State Convention.

Get your priorities straight.

Oh wait, that's right, your priority is Hillary.

Nuff said.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
31. There was no violence in Nevada
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016

Hillary supporters made it all up to avoid discussing the cheating done in their candidates name

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
32. Of course, all those independent reports were all part of the conspiracy.
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

It's so convenient to have a conspiracy theory to blame all those pesky facts that you don't like on, I can see why the Bernie crowd relies on it so much.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
36. "Independent reports" Um, Hillary supporters are not 'independent reports'
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:59 PM
May 2016

AND zero evidence exists. This is because Hillary supporters made the whole thing up to cover up the cheating done in their candidates name by the Nevada Democratic party.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
37. NYT, AP, WP, even the Nation reported it.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

But I get it, David Brock just made a couple phone calls and got all those journals to publish false stories. There's nothing that the conspiracy theory can't take care of.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
46. They were bamboozled by their sole source: Jon Ralston a Hillary Shill.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

The same way they were with the Capehart debacle. Our main stream media has long ago given up the pretense of impartiality, quality research or the journalistic standards of decades past.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
49. Yes, they are the ones bamboozled. Obviously.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:15 PM
May 2016

Bernie supporters on Reddit are never wrong about anything, it's always those journalists with their "sources" and "witnesses" who get bamboozled.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
52. Be the HillBill Camp HERO and produce the evidence of violence at the convention.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016

No one else has, but hey, you may get lucky!!

That's my last kick to this sorry OP.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
34. If he does or not...
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:58 PM
May 2016

It will not shut us up. No going along to get along. What happened in New York and who knows where else..

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
35. The chair-throwing contingent will keep throwing chairs, but it will be good when Bernie
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:59 PM
May 2016

leaves them behind.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
38. Dirty Harry ... so DIRTY, the corrupt State Senator in Nic Pileggi's "CASINO" is based on Reid.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

GTFO, Harry...

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
45. You should call the NYT and AP and the Nation and WP and explain that to them.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:11 PM
May 2016

I'm sure they'd love to learn about journalism from anonymous Bernie supporters on the internet.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
53. NYT is in the bag for the corrupt establishment candidate.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

And it has been from the get-go. The Nation would never push Hill camp lies.

The "violence" meme is a coordinated attempt to cover up election theft and try to finish off Bernie Sanders by demonizing his supporters.

The Hillary campaign is getting very nervous.

prayin4rain

(2,065 posts)
59. I thought Bernie has condemned the violence? ? I'm a Hillary person, but
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:04 PM
May 2016

I don't understand what Bernie, himself, is supposed to do about what happened? Bernie didn't do it. He released a letter saying that he doesn't condone violence. What else is he expected to do? Gravel? Beg forgiveness for something that he didn't do?

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