Hardball confirms, there was violence, there were chairs thrown.

[YouDig]

Roberta Lange confirmed that chairs were thrown. Jon Ralston said that multiple eyewitnesses confirmed that there were chairs thrown.

Just the fact that instead of being aghast at the death threats and the sexist slurs, the Bernie people are trying to deny the widely reported fact that there was violence says quite a bit. But, yes, there were most definitely chairs thrown at the Nevada convention.

[cantbeserious]

1. Hardball Carrying The Water For HRC - No Longer A Trustworthy New Source

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[YouDig]

2. Too many facts reported there. The conspiracy theorists don't like it.

[tex-wyo-dem]

56. How about some proof that "chairs were thrown"...

Everybody's got cameras on there cell phones. I find it impossible to believe no one in a crowd of thousands caught the flying chairs on camera.

[cantbeserious]

60. ^^^ This ^^^

All we have to date is insinuation.

[Maru Kitteh]

96. Yup! Doesn't fit in their "program"

This is an obscure reference, but if you ever watched "Everybody Loves Raymond" there was an episode where they meet a nice couple who has this poorly-adjusted, super-annoying little asshole of a kid that of course the parents think is a GENIUS.

Whenever the kid was given a rule or was told anything he didn't like, he just did a stupid robot voice and said it didn't "compute." Kind of reminds me of some folks around here.

[JaneyVee]

33. Dont you guys ever get tired of paranoid fantasies?

[WhiteTara]

80. It's a very big bus. A yuge bus and it is a beautiful bus

so many people now live under it!

[cantbeserious]

86. So Sayeth The HRC Supporter Whose Candidate Receives Largess From Corporate Media

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[WhiteTara]

93. Sorry, Bernie lost again tonight

and I know you are upset.

[cantbeserious]

94. This Citizen Is Never Upset

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[Stryguy]

99. I suppose this

This is just someone handing a chair to someone else in a friendly fashion.

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[cantbeserious]

100. Chair Never Thrown - Time To Keep Up

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[Snarkoleptic]

106. Please stop posting this debunked junk ALL OVER DU.

I'm astonished that the "thrown chair" is such a focus, in light of the mischief of the party chair.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1

[AzDar]

3. Proof?

[panader0]

4. Hardball confirms nothing

Who was arrested? There must have been quite a few arrests with so much violence.
Matthews is/was a Bush lover and is currently a Shillary.

[TCJ70]

5. It's interesting how there's all kind of video of no violence, and no video of any chairs flying...

...you don't think that's odd at all? And the guy who initially reported that there was chair throwing is now saying he didn't see it either. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511984196)

[SwampG8r]

10. Let this sink in too

In a vegas casino ....no video.....hmmm
Kind of leans toward didnt happen when i factor in routine vegas security camera activity
Casino video has been used in court as evidence .....hummph...such a lack of video is questionable at best.

[TCJ70]

11. A Las Vegas casino should be the most video camera'd place in the country...

...and yet...

[SwampG8r]

16. I worked in a casino cruise ship.

Every square in h inside and out was under surveillance

[grasswire]

6. Not so.

Tweety says we will know chairs were thrown when we see the video.

Ralston said he was not there to see any chair thrown. He walked it back.

Were you there?

[YouDig]

12. As usual, a selective and dishonest account of what was said.

It's weird that you would repeatedly omit that Ralston confirmed that multiple witnesses saw chairs thrown. I know you saw it, and I know that you know that Ralston didn't walk anything back. It'll be on youtube soon.

What game are you playing?

[azurnoir]

27. Lets go this way why no arrests ? there were police present so why were there no arrests

disorderly conduct at the very least ......... assult if some of the more imaginative stories I've read were true

[SwampG8r]

7. Video?

A room in a vegas casino filled with camera phones and neither hotel security or independant video shows this happening.
Sure thing

[JaneyVee]

37. It will surface, but in the meantime...

Eyewitness accounts are allowed in a court of law.

[bvf]

69. Gettin' a little ahead of yourself, there, eh?

Too funny.

[frylock]

70. If it was going to surface, it would have.

We would've heard by now how the police are using the video evidence to ID the assailants. Just more lying bullshit, like Bernie boys chanting "english only".

[JimDandy]

98. That's right. That happened in Vegas too. That city must be a magnet

for liars desperate to smear Sanders.

[davidlynch]

8. No chair was thrown. A Bernie Supporter raised a chair in to the air...

But Bernie supporters stopped him and calmed him down. They gave him a group hug and hugged him down from his anger.

[YouDig]

15. That's not what has been reported multiple times.

[davidlynch]

55. Here is the video of the chair being lifted...

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/732618967181746178/pu/vid/190x180/8dyLZHoQhOqf1kkl.mp4

Some evidence, here you go.

[frylock]

71. Reported multiple times through a single source.

[YouDig]

72. Wrong, as usual.

[frylock]

77. Well you certainly cleared that up.

[arcane1]

82. You mean "correcting the record" requires proof? Dammit. There goes my side gig.

[pangaia]

52. Sounds like,, we landed under gunfire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, wait....

[NCTraveler]

9. Does hardball put their videos online.

I know there was some abhorrent behavior but it seems things are being called facts when they are not.

[YouDig]

13. Don't know when MSNBC puts the videos up.

But Roberta Lange said chairs were thrown, and Jon Ralston said he wasn't there at the end when the chairs were thrown, but multiple witnesses saw it.

[bvar22]

58. Roberta Lange has NO credibility.

Anybody who watched the video of the roll call votes KNOWS that she has no credibility.

[YouDig]

62. Of course not! She's part of the conspiracy. She's a counterrevolutionary!

[dchill]

14. Hardball confirms Capehart right about Bruce Rappaport photo!

It's my goto show for crap news! But I don't watch it. HRC folk bring me updates!

[AzDar]

20. Right? Tell THE BIG LIE... Halfway walk-it back...and pretend it never happened. Fucking LIARS!

Capehart and Ralston are scummy shills... NOT journalists.

[dchill]

28. Well put!

[Cheese Sandwich]

91. LOL!

that was very funny

[Skwmom]

108. Tweety is in the category of not just a liar but a damned liar.

[Kelvin Mace]

17. Show us the video of the violence!

Hundreds/thousands of people in the hall with the press and not a single person has video? In 2016?

Anyone who made any kind of actual death threat should be arrested.

[dchill]

35. And anybody throwing a chair WOULD have been arrested!

There were plenty of cops there.

[arcane1]

39. If they threw a chair at a person, yes.

If someone picked up a chair and threw it down in anger, maybe they wouldn't be arrested.

But so far there's no proof of either scenario.

[passiveporcupine]

73. But the complaint is not a chair was thrown, but "chairs" thrown,

like it was a riot and everyone was throwing chairs.

[arcane1]

74. Exactly. Some people even added "bottles" to the mix.

[nc4bo]

18. Schadenfreude that Matthews' wife lost! nt

[YouDig]

19. Where do you think I might get some schadenfreude?

[nc4bo]

22. It may require "surgery" at this point my dear Dig. nt

[YouDig]

23. I don't think so. I kinda think there might be a campaign coming to a glorious failure sometime

soon. In fact, I'm already getting kinda excited about it!

[nc4bo]

25. Wait until those investigations get wrapped up first. nt

[YouDig]

31. The email fairy! Coming to save you!

[nc4bo]

42. Sanders doesn't have shit to worry about, does Hill?

Are you certain?

I wouldn't bet a red cent on that.

[Jester Messiah]

21. Tweety's part of the Clinton machine.

No credibility at all.

[Mnpaul]

24. Hardball confirmed

that the ACA will never pass via the sidecar bill.

[Bluenorthwest]

26. Hardball reported breathlessly that photos of Bernie Sanders were not Bernie Sanders at all

They did that without even consulting the famous photographer who took them or or Bernie. I don't believe a word I hear on Hardball after that, Chris still has Capehart on so Chris is fine with unchecked, fully fictional gossip presented as journalism.

[ThePhilosopher04]

29. They havent confirmed shit

[oldandhappy]

32. ha ha You believe Hardball??

I am sorry for you.

[notadmblnd]

34. Right, because HRC supporters are too inept to record video of it.

In this day and age? Talk about your low info voters. Where are these "eye witnesses"? They certainly aren't being interviewed on MSM.

Where are the injured people from the riot?

That's right, they don't exist because it didn't happen.

[arcane1]

36. So where's the video, oh liberal poster with honest motives, of "chairs" thrown at people?

[mcar]

40. I don't understand why the actions of some out of control supporters

cannot be condemned. It they were HRC supporters, people here would be screaming about it from the rooftops.

Why is it so hard to say - they were wrong?

[beedle]

84. Bernie's office in MV was ransacked, and

someone shot at it while Bernie was in town.

No one was screaming from the rooftops blaming Hillary ... and to boot, there were no Hillary supporters condemning random Hillary supporter actions.

As soon as there is evidence that something 'wrong' was done, then feel free to ask for a condemnation .. PS. yelling at the chair of a convention that is spitting in the face of democratic practices is not 'wrong' ... it's free speech in the face of anti-democratic practices.

[Cheese Sandwich]

41. Hardball

[AgingAmerican]

43. The whole thing was orchestrated by the Clinton campaign

Thus no video, no audio, nothing. Just mindless drama from Hillary supporters.

[YouDig]

45. You forgot to mention David Brock. What's a conspiracy theory without Brock?

[frylock]

75. Does he know you're talking about him that way?

[Surya Gayatri]

44. What kind of leader is this? Who can't even keep his fanatic followers from trashing the place and

terrorizing real Democrats.

[jillan]

46. Jon said he did not see any chairs being thrown. He said that on Hardball. Selective listening?

[YouDig]

47. And then he said multiple eyewitnesses saw it. Selective listening indeed.

[jillan]

48. There is no proof.

[pangaia]

53. Do not reply to the guy. Just ignore him/her/it, whatever...

It will go away with lack of attention....

[MrMickeysMom]

49. How many times do I have to show this clip?

Tell Tweety to get his head out of his ass and witness this -

[Peregrine Took]

50. OMG! What to do? Shall I put on my pith helmut and get my scabbard?

A CHAIR was thrown??? Or possibly TWO chairs were 'thrown?"

Never before in the long, ugly history of American politics has this atrocity been heard of!!!

[MrMickeysMom]

51. THAT and $50 ...

... will get you a blow job in Washington, DC

[Thinkingabout]

54. With so much denial makes questions as to why deny. What is with the phone calls and threats,

is there video of the calls needed.

[arcane1]

57. Here's the video. We eagerly await your honest replies

www.democraticunderground.com/12511984971

[YouDig]

61. Well, that's a video. lol. You think because there exists a video of something

other than a chair being hurled, then it never happened? Does that video also prove that the moon landing was faked?

#bernielogic

[arcane1]

63. Ah, but NO video is proof that it happened?

#puppetlogic

[YouDig]

64. The proof is the multiple independent reports.

But I do concede, there are a lot of videos on youtube of something other than a chair being thrown. But with the logic I'm seeing from Bernie people, I'm starting to understand why he's getting demolished in the votes.

[arcane1]

66. And there it is: the fallback retort the memos recommended to use when stuck.

Puppet says what?

[.99center]

67. The only explanation for the lack of video is that there was a massive conspiracy

By everyone in the room, to quit recording just before the chairs were thrown and the riot erupted. After the violence everyone was instructed that it was safe to start recording.

[YouDig]

68. There doesn't need to be an "explanation" for lack of video.

This is very basic logic. If something is on video, unless it's doctored, then it happened. But if it's not on video, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not complicated.

And certainly, a video showing something other than a chair being thrown doesn't prove that no chairs were ever thrown.

#bernielogic is being taken to the extreme today!

[.99center]

76. It's your logic and explanation!

Youdig

There are a lot of videos shot by Sanders supporters. Apparently they put the phones down
before picking up the chairs. Multiple reports, and save your Brock conspiracy theories for people who believe them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1984696

You made this argument under an hour ago, did you forget, or just throwing shit out there?

[YouDig]

79. Meh, just a random guess. Who knows why it wasn't filmed? Who cares?

You'd have to ask the people there. We know for a fact that there were chairs thrown, which is all that matters.

[.99center]

85. Ok, you're not interested in the truth or a discussion

You're just throwing shit out there, got it.

[YouDig]

87. The truth, widely reported and confirmed on MSNBC, is that there was violence.

I'm not interested in conspiracy theories. Except as entertainment. And they are entertaining.

[.99center]

90. If you're not interested in conspiracy theories, why create them?

[YouDig]

92. I guess we kinda differ. To me, when the NYT, WP, AP, Nation, and many others

report something, and then two different people confirm it on MSNBC, the conspiracy theory is believing that all those people are orchestrated by David Brock.

[.99center]

97. Yeah, I guess we do differ. I tend to pay more attention to the source of the material

And the quality of the article. As far as MSNBC and the other networks, they just spout whatever is in print without bothering to investigate the claims they're making.

[passiveporcupine]

88. that made me LOL

So Bernie supporters have phones and Hillary supporters don't? Is that what he's saying?

[WolverineDG]

59. Roberta Lang?

The woman who made her own motion, seconded it, approved it, banged the gavel, & ran? Yeah, she's credible.

Still no photos or video of the chair throwing, yet there's video of everything else.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

65. The jails in LV must be full of the perpetrators.

The chairs thrown, the death threats, the sexist slurs.

How many are there awaiting trial?

[passiveporcupine]

78. do you think after that display of power

that anyone would believe anything Roberta Lange has to say?

Seriously?

[YouDig]

81. The conspiracy theorists won't, of course, but what else is new.

[arcane1]

83. That poster is not here to think. That's not their job.

And it's a good thing, too, because they'd be unqualified

[bunnies]

89. Lol. Tweety parrots Ralston.

It must be true!!!

[B Calm]

95. No video?

[haikugal]

101. Where's the proof? Where's the video? If you think that happened in a vacuum, without video....

you're either lying or gullible. It's a political smear from a foul campaign.

[Larkspur]

102. Soneone once said that when peaceful means are obstructed

that leaves violence as thee only option.

The NV debacle clearly indicates that the NV Democratic leadership failed to run this convention transparently and fairly thus creating an atmosphere of confusion and lack of faith in their ability to lead.

[YouDig]

103. At least you're honest. I prefer democracy over rule by violent mob, but then I don't support Bernie

[uponit7771]

104. No no... everyone else is lying and Berniebros are telling the truth... cause Podium Bird told em

[LexVegas]

105. Not surprised. I can't wait for Sanders to go away. nt

[Skwmom]

107. Roberta Lange's own conduct does not make her believable. The same for Ralston.