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Baobab

(4,667 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:30 PM May 2016

Keep the possibility in mind that those people leaving threats, yelling may be fakes-

Anybody who has ever demonstrated about anything must realize that quite frequently people working for the other side pretend to be demonstrators and deliberately break things or get violent as a way of trggering a response against peaceful demonstrators. When one considers that the stakes in this election are three deals that basically take over the future world, which cannot be reversed by politicians legislators or presidents, we have to realize that possibly hundreds of trillions of dollars is at stake-

I think we should expect trickery.

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Baobab

(4,667 posts)
6. You know some of these websites have huge numbers of fake people tryin to get people to hate
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

one another or break laws- they must be paid by somebody- Kochs, maybe?

Divide and conquer, i suppose.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
10. I think the paid operative theory is way overblown
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016

And yes there are people who are hardcore conservatives that profess to be Bernie and Hillary supporters.

But the majority are just zealots.
They're not paid and they're not doing Operation Chaos stuff.

I think and this is just my opinion that Bernies rhetoric appeals to
a certain small group of hardcore zealots.

Those are the loudest.
That they got over the line isn't really surprising because their behavior
has nothing to do with Bernie or his message.

If Bernie hadn't come along they'd be whooping it up for somebody else.
They'd still be loud and they'd still be zealots.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
11. why are you ignoring the economic aspect. Hillary's agenda will cost big groups of people huge amoun
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:24 PM
May 2016

ts of money.

For example, services globalization is widely acknowledged to be devastating for the US middle class because we're not unionized like the EU. You have two sets of policies fighting one public one private and they are going to cancel one another out. But the hidden one is going to trump the public one in every area. thats how they work.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
2. They had a audio of a supposedly 'Sanders' supporter trashing/cussing somebody on CNN...
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:35 PM
May 2016

I was thinking that, hey wait, that could be Clinton/Brook operative...

With all the lies & cheating from Clinton - it is more likely this was a Clinton/Brook operative.

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
5. If it makes you feel better to trust fantasy over evidence, enjoy your self-soothing, fact-free
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:11 PM
May 2016

imaginings. It changes nothing about SBS' pathetic running away from the camera and microphone today until his handlers could tell him what to think and say about the violence, or the weak and meaningless statement his team crafted for him.

The media, for reasons unknown have finally decided to start doing move beyond just fluffing his pillow and getting him hot chocolate. They will not be letting go of this, and the voices calling him out on this bullshit is growing to include (among others) Harry Reid, Dianne Feinstein, THE PRESIDENT . . . .

Peregrine Took

(7,412 posts)
3. Absolutely. What a gold mine for those old tricksters!
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

Its a natural. Wouldn't be a bit surprised if some of the louder boo birds in Nevada weren't ringers, too.

When you run an unethical campaign- its a natural for targeted disrupters.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. It was proudly announced that Brock is spending a million dollars to disrupt.
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

I don't know why anyone believes Bernie's supporters were responsible for this crap.

In any event - nothing can get me to support a warmongering TPP-shilling Third Wayer.

So I'm good. And - will be out of what used to be the Democratic Party, in August.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. That could very well be - it is not like those people are known for telling the truth about anything
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:11 PM
May 2016

at all.

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. I hope that's true
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:13 PM
May 2016

The tapes they played on MSNBC a few minutes ago sounded like Trump supporters. I'm not saying they were (or that they weren't), only that they sounded as rage-fueled and unhinged as Trump voters.

I wish the primaries were ending on as civil a note as they started out.

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