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ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:09 AM May 2016

Some more perspective on Sanders' big rallies

Last edited Wed May 18, 2016, 03:42 AM - Edit history (1)

I just noticed that Sanders happened to win Oregon by about 30,000 votes which is coincidentally about the same size as the rally he had in Portland. Which is interesting because it means you can look at pictures of the rally and get a good feel for how big his lead was.

And we can see that a crowd of that size netted him only four delegates! Which kind of puts those rallies into perspective doesn't it?

Edit: doh I'm dumb. The numbers have changed already. I hadn't noticed that they weren't all in yet.

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Some more perspective on Sanders' big rallies (Original Post) ContinentalOp May 2016 OP
Rallies don't mean anything griffi94 May 2016 #1
I agree ContinentalOp May 2016 #2
He has been good at getting them to send money griffi94 May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #3
Would that be the Clinton math griffi94 May 2016 #5
There was no math in that post ContinentalOp May 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #7
You're right, I apologize ContinentalOp May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author jillan May 2016 #10
Huh? I wasn't saying the enthusiasm is bad. ContinentalOp May 2016 #11
Sorry for misunderstanding. You do have a good point. jillan May 2016 #12

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
1. Rallies don't mean anything
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:15 AM
May 2016

The same way yard signs and bumper stickers and all the people
someone personally knows who support Bernie doesn't matter.

He trails by hundreds of delegates and millions of votes.

Delegates and votes are what matter.

He failed in those.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
2. I agree
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:22 AM
May 2016

Just pointing out the scale of those numbers. People are so impressed by those HUGE crowds but at the end of the day they only add up to a few delegates here and there. 30,000 people don't mean shit in a country of over 300 million! Unless your goal is just to take $27 from each of them in which case, well played!

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
4. He has been good at getting them to send money
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:27 AM
May 2016

Now that has fallen off since New York.

I think money is why his advsors encourage him to press on.

He's done.
There's no longer even an outside chance that he wins
the nomination.

But if all the faithful will send another $27 he'll take it
all the way to the convention.

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ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
6. There was no math in that post
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:31 AM
May 2016

Just a couple of simple numbers. But I'm sorry, I'll try to go more slowly next time.

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ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
8. You're right, I apologize
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:01 AM
May 2016

I tend to think of math as being slightly more complex than the basic number sense we learn as children but I forgot my audience.

See Bernie's crowd. Bernie's crowd is big. Bernie's crowd cheers. Cheer crowd. Cheer! See Bernie's delegates. Bernie's crowd gets very few delegates. The crowd is sad. Cry crowd. Cry.

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ContinentalOp

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11. Huh? I wasn't saying the enthusiasm is bad.
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:13 AM
May 2016

Many Sanders supporters here have insinuated that the gap between crowd sizes and the vote totals is due to cheating. I was just pointing out that today's Oregon primary gives a simple illustration of what 30,000 people (the size of many of his biggest rallies) means for the end result. A 30,000 vote lead in OR netted him 4 delegates.

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