"Bernie cheated in Oregon! Fraud fraud fraud!! Establishment corruption! Arrrggggg!!!!"

[RBInMaine]

See how SILLY such claims are?

Bernie didn't cheat in Oregon anymore than Hillary "cheated" ANYWHERE else.

Bernie got more votes in Oregon and in the other states he has won, and Hillary has gotten more votes in the states she has won, such as Kentucky last night.

Hillary wins the MATH in this primary. 3 million more popular votes. Nearly 300 more pledged delegates.
Bernie simply can not catch up. Sorry, but those are the cold hard facts, as inconvenient as they may be for some.

No fraud. No cheating. No wild-eyed conspiracies. None of that delusional foolishness. Just voters and math.

The choice will be Hillary or the insane creepy racist Trump. If you are actually "progressive" then the choice couldn't be clearer. It's the ultimate no brainer.

Forget super delegates. Hillary wins on POPULAR VOTES and PLEDGED DELEGATES.

[merrily]

1. BS OP. There is no news out of Oregon claiming fraud. There was news out of Iowa, Illinois,

Arizona, NY and Nevada indicating chicanery and/or incompetence.


Take your massive false equivalency and false narrative and store them somewhere.

[RBInMaine]

2. Your wild-eyed conspiracy theories are utter nonsense. ENOUGH of it!

No sooner had Hillary won Kentucky last night, Bernie folks started more crazy conspiracy theories about the Sec. of State stealing the election for her. My goodness, does it ever end?

Hillary has won what she has won fairly, and so has Bernie. So enough of the delusional nonsense.

[merrily]

5. "Conspiracy theory" is a CIA invented and "weaponized" term to stop questioning. Using it s

speaks volumes, none of it good. You should consider not using it anymore. And, btw, labeling something a conspiracy theory neither rebuts nor disproves a thing.

When people start tweeting about crap going down in their caucus or primary, they have no idea who will win or lose it.

Your statement that Hillary has won fairly will convince no one. Your fellow Hillary supporters already believe it or pretend to and Sanders' supporters know better.

But back to your massively false equivalency......

[Stryguy]

16. Seriously

Your sarcasm didn't just go over their heads it bounced right off their tin foil hats.

[Arneoker]

3. Yes, the false narrative

That Bernie is losing due fraud as opposed to Hillary winning more votes in primary elections is ridiculous!

[merrily]

6. Nowhere near as ridiculous that everything in the primaries and caucuses has been on the up and up.

[silvershadow]

4. There's so much wrong with this OP it is hard to know where to begin.

Popular votes have NOTHING to do with it. It is the delegate count that matters.
There was Bonnie and Clyde's Great Coast to Coast Disenfranchisement Tour.
There was Debbie-gate.
There was the early and sustained collusion between the DLC and the HRC campaign. (I say DLC because it appears we no longer have a functioning DNC).
Finally, until she reaches the magic number, the race continues. If she doesn't reach that magic number before convention, the delegates will have a very serious decision to make.

All of this has been explained, over and over.

[merrily]

7. Don't forget Massachusetts glad hand gate

[silvershadow]

8. Didn't Bill occupy polling places on two different states? I forget now the other one...

maybe Pennsylvania?

[merrily]

11. Dunno. He went to three or four POLLING places in Massachusetts. Lawsuit is pending.

In Boston, the Mayor accompanied him and the two of them walked the line INSIDE a polling place and chatted up people standing on line to vote.

Secretary of state is being sued too. So, that means Massachusetts taxpayers, such as I, will be footing the fucking bill for the Clinton'S thinking they should be able to do anything they want wherever they want.

[RBInMaine]

10. No rules broken according to the official ruling. More crazy conspiracy theories.

[merrily]

13. What "official ruling" are you on about? Something a Democrat who endorsed Hillary said to media

the same day, with no investigation?

A lawsuit was filed against Bill and the Secretary of State and is still pending.

BTW, my seeing Bill at the polls is not a conspiracy theory. It's neither a conspiracy nor a theory. Nor is it crazy. '

If you're going to insist on using that dumbass RW term, at least use it correctly. Not that there is a correct use of dumbass term, but at least try to use it the same way the CIA intended.

[RBInMaine]

9. What's wrong with your argument is a lack of MATH and continued conspiracy theory nonsense.

Your side keeps talking about a "rigged" situation in this primary cycle. BULLSHIT! Hillary and the DNC didn't "rig" the three million more votes she has received. (And please, tell me that you wouldn't be talking about popular votes if Bernie was ahead by three million votes. On principle, they most definitely matter.)

Next, she is ahead by nearly three hundred pledged delegates. When all is said and done on June 7th, she will either have all the pledged delegates she needs or will be VERY close. If she has significantly more pledged delegates, and nearly all needed by the rules, along with millions more popular votes, then of course she should and WILL be the nominee, just as you would be saying if the situation was exactly reversed in favor of Bernie.

The wild-eyed and endless conspiracy theories need to end, plain and simple. They are delusional foolishness.

[silvershadow]

12. I didn't say "rigged". You did. The three million more votes don't mean squat. It is the

delegate count that is the ONLY thing that matters. I wouldn't be talking about popular votes, because they DON"T MATTER. I learned this in 2000, and I've dismissed them ever since as pure nonsense. There is no principle there to hang your hat on. We don't vote on principles, we vote on laws and party rules. There is NO WAY to know yet who might arrive in Philly with more pledged delegates at this point. That is a long way off yet. Finally, no amount of fanciful wishful thinking and embellished prose will make anything true your side writes about "conspiracy theories", or such. I lived through this horrid primary, the Great Coast to Coast Disenfranchisement Tour, and I'll be damned if you're gonna erase it from my memory or from history. It is all documented, much of it on video. The news media may have a memory hole, but real life doesn't.

[Bonobo]

14. Do you have any idea how deeply flawed the logic underpinning this OP is?

My guess is no, you do not.

[hobbit709]

15. What a load of crap. your feeble attempt at humor is a big FAIL!

[Tavarious Jackson]

17. Rigged By Jeff Merkely! nt