2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumYou are witnessing HERSTORY
She is winning by each and every measure. She has been attacked repeatedly by the right *and* some on the "left" with the same old tired arguments they don't even BOTHER to play with others (Benghazi? <<<---- YAWN) (email? same *exact* thing time and time again with other officials and there *is* no inquest, just a lot of unnamed this unofficial that) and she gets back up every time. She is a leader.
She's going to break the biggest glass ceiling.
And I'm going to help her.
What we are witnessing, whether Bernie's people want to admit it or not, isn't history. It's HERSTORY.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a simple but tremendous advance. One way past time, but it is finally happening and we are doing it.
riversedge
(70,197 posts)glowing
(12,233 posts)Would have been so much easier, but for those darned kids, ideals, people wanting Doctors and education and jobs, pesky business, you know. It's HER turn, HER time. And if you don't like it, there's always a hackable electronic vote that may be turned for HER, too.
Ok, I know, I'm not being very nice. For some people, they are ecstatic about a woman winning the White House. I would normally be to, as a woman, however, I'm getting up there in age... By now, my parent s were miles ahead of where I am even at financially, etc, and it worries me to continue down the same old path... And the amount of favors this woman owes to the people who are funding her campaign is astronaumical. And I'm not sure she will make it past her FBI investigations? The Republicans are going to hit her where Bernie never went.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)glowing
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mcar
(42,302 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)Should she get the nomination, she won't be POTUS. If THAT unlikely scenario were to occur, it would mean the first woman president would be so bad there wouldn't be another for a long time...long past my lifetime.
I'll hold out for a great woman to be POTUS.
But thanks for your "concern".
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)She was that bad.
Sad for women, really.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)It's more than sad.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Stop thinking we should try to do better than a candidate past her sell-by date, who represents a Corporate/Wall St. stranglehold that we should have left behind in the 90s.
This is HERSTORY.
Don't you understand? It doesn't matter who the HER is.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Clinton also thinks she can bomb her way through every conflict. Equally deadly, equally hated.
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)Because what that says, on its face, is that there are so few women in positions of power, that it takes only one to prevent others from being considered. The unequal standard in this metric is astonishing. The murderous regimes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin and Mussolini, just to name a few in very recent history, have caused no one to stop electing men into positions of power.
The crime here is not Margaret Thatcher but the prejudice by which all women are judged by the actions of a few. That is the very definition of blatant bigotry and it is far uglier and more damaging than the actions of one. The "Margaret Thatcher" response reveals just how far the world needs to go in considering women equally deserving of power. That people do not automatically see that, shows how unconscious and entrenched the prejudice is.
And, that is sad for women and all of humanity. Really.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I do think more women in politics would be a good thing, but I disagree that Thatcher didn't bring it on herself.
Haveadream
(1,630 posts)She was that bad.
If that is true, it has nothing to do with Thatcher and everything to do with discrimination against women. You cannot wholesale exclude political consideration of men, blacks, asians, muslims, women, etc, etc, etc on the basis of the actions of one without engaging in rank prejudice. If you are correct in your assessment, we have a huge problem. And one which people like Trump, and according to your analysis, the people of England, are guilty of promoting. I truly hope that is not the case.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)if she gets the nod, she won't be POTUS. <<<-------misdiagnosis right there.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)The FBI submitted a classified declaration to a federal court judge late Friday explaining details about the bureau's "pending investigation" into the use of a private email server by Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton. The declaration addresses why the FBI can't publicly release any records about its probe in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed by VICE News.
In a separate public declaration, David Hardy, the chief of the FBI's FOIA office, said there are a number of documents exchanged between the FBI and the State Department relating to the FBI's ongoing investigation of Clinton's use of a private email server, which stored all of the official government emails Clinton sent and received during her tenure as Secretary of State. But the FBI, which consulted with attorneys within its Office of General Counsel "who are providing legal support to the pending investigation," cannot divulge any of them without "adversely affecting" the integrity of its investigation.
(snip)
Earlier this month, the Washington Post cited a senior law enforcement official when it reported that the Department of Justice granted immunity to Bryan Pagliano, a former State Department staffer who worked on Clinton's private email server, "as part of a criminal investigation into the possible mishandling of classified information."
"As the FBI looks to wrap up its investigation in the coming months, agents are likely to want to interview Clinton and her senior aides about the decision to use a private server, how it was set up, and whether any of the participants knew they were sending classified information in emails, current and former officials said," according to the Washington Post report.
(more at link)
To be fair, this is from March 26, 2016. Since then her staff has been interviewed, the hacker has been extradited, and her criminal defense attorney has already been hired in preparation for her FBI interview.
She's already made a name for herself as the first presidential candidate to be under criminal investigation by the FBI while still running for office. I look forward to the excuses her supporters will offer when her indictment is revealed.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)but your concern is noted.
TimPlo
(443 posts)But making a prediction on future event is not something you can prove. I know it is hard for someone like you to understand that but what the person you quoted was giving is his best interpretation of the article he posted. Now if he is right or wrong only time will tell. But to ask him to prove something that is going to happen at a future time is not something a rational person would ask for.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)and your concern is noted.
frylock
(34,825 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Who knows. All joking aside, I have no idea what the FBI will recommend I just hope they make a decision before we have a nominee.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I'm a woman and always thought "herstory" was so stupid.
And, I won't be helping her. I hope she gets indicted and leaves the stage.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)She's corrupt. Period. End of story.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)judge her. End of story, and all. HERSTORY has not ended. And Bernie couldn't beat her.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)She is running for office.
By those very definitions, yes, I can judge her. That's what an election is: it's judging candidates and casting ballots for those who pass your judgement.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Many of us go out of our way to not comment on many, many threads as to not hurt anyone's feelings. It's sad that we can't even enjoy this moment.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)BTW, she's not the nominee, yet.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)and she's the nominee. You guys just need to grasp at some more straws before the math sinks in
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)19 days if we wait for the MSM to call it.
frylock
(34,825 posts)But here we are, with the most qualified candidate in herstory limping to the finish line against an unknown socialist from a small NE state. Did I mention the pending indictment hanging over her head?
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)We don't know the ending to that, either. I have a hard time not being interested in how that part of her story will turn out.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Sorry to burst your bubble: I just took the first link for good measure
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/05/email-scandal-crushed-fbi-finds-evidence-clinton-broke-law-private-email.html
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)The FBI is still investigating, according to James Comey, a named US official who actually knows what's going on with the investigation, unlike the conspicuously unidentified "officials" quoted in your linked article.
frylock
(34,825 posts)because the FBI is carefully crafting an apology letter to Mrs Clinton for inconveniencing her.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Do you deny that?
Or are you so deep into the cult you cannot even admit that?
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)You didn't write post #38. How does that mean anything?
Your OP reads like a cult script. I hope it is satire.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Your link in #31 is bullshit. The FBI investigation is ongoing. They haven't announced what they have or have not found. They are still questioning Hillary's staff members. Ultimately, they'll question her as well. They'll want to get "herstory" on the possible crimes committed.
I know the cult of Hillary has fogged people's minds, but for Pete's sake, the information on the investigation is there for anyone with an functioning brain to find.
frylock
(34,825 posts)that when the recommendation comes down, the meltdown here is going to be epic.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Director Comey dispelled that nonsense a couple weeks ago.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)The Nov. Chapter of Herstory
Hill yes!
Jude the Obscure
(50 posts)Vite? Can't wait for HERSTORY.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)An oligarch that NEEDS your help?
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)and the choices are Democrat or Republican and I am a lifelong Democrat.
Good luck to you though. Mean it
Jude the Obscure
(50 posts)It aint Clinton.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)for people who have no sense for etymology. The word "history"from the Ancient Greek ἱ????ί?, or historia, meaning "knowledge obtained by inquiry"is etymologically unrelated to the possessive pronoun "his".
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Heaven knows we could always need some more laughter.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)It's well on its way to being comedy gold.
potone
(1,701 posts)I'm a classicist and a feminist and this false etymology annoys me greatly. I have had to point out its falseness to my students before.
kcr
(15,315 posts)You're not quite correct about the reasons it doesn't work as a neologism. Herstory isn't a play on a word that's spelled hisstory. It's a phonetic play on the word history. The actual etymology of the word is irrelevant.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)it's a word, it's new, then it's a neologism.
and it's the worst. It's the kind of word used by practitioners of consumerist feminism, who feel empowered by buying sweatshop produced T-shirts that say "diva" in rhinestones. They probably have "live, laugh, love" plaques somewhere in their house. That's the picture it conjures up in my mind. Un-fucking-tenable people.
kcr
(15,315 posts)Things can be incorrect. The word isn't hisstory. You get that, right? That word doesn't even exist for it to have an etymology. It's history. Herstory is a play on the fact that history sounds like his-story. Hisstory. But that word does not actually exist. His story is now her story. It's just a phonetic play on words. Not claiming that it has anything to do with the etymology of the word history.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)Herstory is the neologism.
It doesn't matter if it's a response to "History" or "HIS story", it's still a neologism.
kcr
(15,315 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)closeupready
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LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Good luck getting over it. HERSTORY continues....
jack_krass
(1,009 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Response to LaydeeBug (Original post)
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Just a taste of what she's going to get in California.
We'll see, when it's all over, what this 'story' is. My bets are on an indictment and a contested convention.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Think you could make this a little more servile and cultish?
TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)Your OP is exactly right, just not in the way that you think it is.
By the way, villains ALWAYS think it's "their" story. Always.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)And Hillary exactly fits their mold of the hubris nemesis complex.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Makes absolutely no sense.
I've never understood the usage. History, from the Greek for obtaining knowledge through inquiry. Herstory is a ridiculous word.
When she campaigns in Nevada and New Mexico, what's next, Herspanics?
If they put a pet snake in the White House, will it have Herssed?
Stupid.
And agree with above. As a woman, this isn't our story.
frylock
(34,825 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)The country wants change, and she is anything but.
840high
(17,196 posts)interest for me. How about Ourstory?
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)When you figure out why you didn't take that opportunity, maybe you'll have an inkling why the rest of us #ArentWithHer