2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie or "Bust" Who does that hurt?
A lot of Sanders supporter seem to believe Hillary is a weak, compromised candidate with bad judgement. Fair enough. So the "bust" contingent either stay home or God forbid vote for Trump to show their displeasure with Hillary. The poor and middle class won't even get a seat at the table in Trump administration. All the issues Bernie supporter "seem" to care so much about won't even get heard. In the long run who does that hurt? Hillary? She'll still be rich walking around with Secret Service protection for the rest of her life.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Protesting is as American as apple pie. You don't have to be violent to march in protest.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Not true my friend many as running. Vote your heart and mind! Love wins not war!
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)We hear Hillary's been giving all kinds of secretive, cloak-and-dagger speeches to Wall Street bankers, who the vast majority of people I know believe are the devil after the recession, and we don't believe we'll have a seat at the table with her either. The fact of the matter is, we're looking at two candidates who have both been courting heavily moneyed interests and promising a stronger foreign policy, both of which don't bode well. The fact of the matter is, the issues we care about won't be listened to by either even if she did win the election, so what's the point at the end of the day? Take solace in a meaningless label, while the Earth continues to burn because we've barely been shunting subsistence level funding towards alternative fuels from how little headway it's made? Take solace in a meaningless label, while American soldiers and foreign innocents bleed out in the middle of a sand pit because we had to wave our metaphorical genitalia around in another country's face? Take solace in a meaningless label, while the ability to hide from our own agencies spying on us is ripped away because "terrorists might use encryption too so Americans shouldn't be able to use it"?
Fade me.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)The Bernie or Bust and the riots in Vegas just made it obvious for everyone to see.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Bernie is the only candidate in decades that has dared to even mention the real issues we poor and middle class folks have.
You're as out of touch as your corrupt candidate.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)class by electing Trump. The rioters in Vegas who got drunk on $20 casino cocktails and then chanted death threats weren't "poor and middle class". It's the new Brook Brothers riot, only with different brands of clothes.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)What a crock of horse shit.
This is as much a made-up MSM/Brock story as the Capehart picture crap.
I have been at caucuses and such where chairs, and punches, have actually been thrown. This time around the only punch thrown was by a Clinton supporter who hit a woman supporting Sanders.
Hundreds of cell phone and no video of thrown chairs.
Did I mention it was a crock of horse shit?
Telling a lie over and over again doesn't make it true.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)The fact is that both Trump and Clinton are equally horrifying to those of us in the middle class, but for different reasons.
Might as well be Bernie or Bust since the other two choice offer no hope to the Middle Class what-so-ever.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)forward.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)LOL.
Adults should know better than to support a person under a criminal investigation by the FBI.
Clinton's supporters are the epitome of a "cult of personality." Or, in this case, a "cult of gender."
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Because it leads to a Trump presidency and fascism.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Wow. I'm so thrilled about our choices in November: The Oligarchs v. The Fascists
baldguy
(36,649 posts)It's designed to sap support from progressive Democrats like Hilary Clinton, and the Democratic Party in general.
Republicans don't believe that bullshit propaganda. Why do you?