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timlot

(456 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:39 AM May 2016

Bernie or "Bust" Who does that hurt?

A lot of Sanders supporter seem to believe Hillary is a weak, compromised candidate with bad judgement. Fair enough. So the "bust" contingent either stay home or God forbid vote for Trump to show their displeasure with Hillary. The poor and middle class won't even get a seat at the table in Trump administration. All the issues Bernie supporter "seem" to care so much about won't even get heard. In the long run who does that hurt? Hillary? She'll still be rich walking around with Secret Service protection for the rest of her life.

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Bernie or "Bust" Who does that hurt? (Original Post) timlot May 2016 OP
timlot—Get a general-election HRC to win w/ Bush/Cheney voters. CobaltBlue May 2016 #1
Their threats of violence crossed a line. Their true colors are showing. Trust Buster May 2016 #2
There's been no threats of violence. Fawke Em May 2016 #8
So you suggest there are only 2candidates? Silver_Witch May 2016 #3
There are more alternatives than Trump. Fuddnik May 2016 #4
Thing is, a lot of us poor and middle class-- the ones I know, at least VulgarPoet May 2016 #5
The Bernie movement has never been about the poor and middle class. YouDig May 2016 #6
That's a lie. Fawke Em May 2016 #10
How do explain Bernie or Bust then? The target of that movement is to hurt the poor and middle YouDig May 2016 #12
The "riots" in Vegas? mikehiggins May 2016 #13
Of course, it was a David Brock conspiracy. Obviously. YouDig May 2016 #15
The poor and middle class won't have a seat at the table under her, either. Fawke Em May 2016 #7
Clinton has spent her life advocating for poor. Sanders for the white middle and upper middle. seabeyond May 2016 #11
PUMA of 2016... They just come off looking foolish, are dismissed. The adults continue progressing seabeyond May 2016 #9
Adults? Fawke Em May 2016 #16
No they aren't. seabeyond May 2016 #19
Democrats and progressives. baldguy May 2016 #14
But a Clinton presidency leads to an oligarchy. Fawke Em May 2016 #17
That's just another version of "Democrats = Republicans", which is a RW lie. baldguy May 2016 #18

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
8. There's been no threats of violence.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:53 AM
May 2016

Protesting is as American as apple pie. You don't have to be violent to march in protest.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
3. So you suggest there are only 2candidates?
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:44 AM
May 2016

Not true my friend many as running. Vote your heart and mind! Love wins not war!

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
5. Thing is, a lot of us poor and middle class-- the ones I know, at least
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:46 AM
May 2016

We hear Hillary's been giving all kinds of secretive, cloak-and-dagger speeches to Wall Street bankers, who the vast majority of people I know believe are the devil after the recession, and we don't believe we'll have a seat at the table with her either. The fact of the matter is, we're looking at two candidates who have both been courting heavily moneyed interests and promising a stronger foreign policy, both of which don't bode well. The fact of the matter is, the issues we care about won't be listened to by either even if she did win the election, so what's the point at the end of the day? Take solace in a meaningless label, while the Earth continues to burn because we've barely been shunting subsistence level funding towards alternative fuels from how little headway it's made? Take solace in a meaningless label, while American soldiers and foreign innocents bleed out in the middle of a sand pit because we had to wave our metaphorical genitalia around in another country's face? Take solace in a meaningless label, while the ability to hide from our own agencies spying on us is ripped away because "terrorists might use encryption too so Americans shouldn't be able to use it"?

Fade me.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
6. The Bernie movement has never been about the poor and middle class.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:50 AM
May 2016

The Bernie or Bust and the riots in Vegas just made it obvious for everyone to see.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
10. That's a lie.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

Bernie is the only candidate in decades that has dared to even mention the real issues we poor and middle class folks have.

You're as out of touch as your corrupt candidate.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
12. How do explain Bernie or Bust then? The target of that movement is to hurt the poor and middle
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

class by electing Trump. The rioters in Vegas who got drunk on $20 casino cocktails and then chanted death threats weren't "poor and middle class". It's the new Brook Brothers riot, only with different brands of clothes.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
13. The "riots" in Vegas?
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:58 AM
May 2016

What a crock of horse shit.

This is as much a made-up MSM/Brock story as the Capehart picture crap.

I have been at caucuses and such where chairs, and punches, have actually been thrown. This time around the only punch thrown was by a Clinton supporter who hit a woman supporting Sanders.

Hundreds of cell phone and no video of thrown chairs.

Did I mention it was a crock of horse shit?

Telling a lie over and over again doesn't make it true.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
7. The poor and middle class won't have a seat at the table under her, either.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:52 AM
May 2016

The fact is that both Trump and Clinton are equally horrifying to those of us in the middle class, but for different reasons.

Might as well be Bernie or Bust since the other two choice offer no hope to the Middle Class what-so-ever.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. Clinton has spent her life advocating for poor. Sanders for the white middle and upper middle.
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. PUMA of 2016... They just come off looking foolish, are dismissed. The adults continue progressing
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

forward.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
16. Adults?
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:03 AM
May 2016

LOL.

Adults should know better than to support a person under a criminal investigation by the FBI.

Clinton's supporters are the epitome of a "cult of personality." Or, in this case, a "cult of gender."

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
17. But a Clinton presidency leads to an oligarchy.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

Wow. I'm so thrilled about our choices in November: The Oligarchs v. The Fascists

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
18. That's just another version of "Democrats = Republicans", which is a RW lie.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016

It's designed to sap support from progressive Democrats like Hilary Clinton, and the Democratic Party in general.

Republicans don't believe that bullshit propaganda. Why do you?

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