Which past Democratic Primary nominees reached 2383 without Super Delegates?

[Sheepshank]

Which ones did not?

[peace13]

1. Which candidates promised super delegates campaign funds....

....and then stole them back right under their noses? Only one that I know of.

[Csainvestor]

2. None needed supers except for obama

Only Obama needed superdelegates. no one else.

[Dem2]

6. 1984

After the final primary in California, on June 5, which Hart won, Mondale was about 40 delegates short of the total he needed for the nomination. However, at the Democratic National Convention in San Francisco on July 16, Mondale received the overwhelming support of the unelected superdelegates from the party establishment to win the nomination.

[joshcryer]

7. That's a fair point but it's not exactly comparable.

They didn't have proportional delegations (in fact, that is one reason we have them now, Gary Hart and Jackson protested it). It was also a three way split.

[Dem2]

8. "Not exactly comparable" but it is true that Supers WERE needed in '84 to put Mondale over the top

I think the blanket statements in this thread should be questioned based on the 1st actual use of superdelegates.

[joshcryer]

9. Fine. I'll edit my post.

[Dem2]

10. :)

I wasn't busting your balls, it was the post I was responding to above.

(my post ended up later than yours due to the time it took me to research the Democratic primary history since Supers were implemented.)

[joshcryer]

11. I remembered that race because I looked up the history...

...of the proportional delegation process. Hart and Jackson had more votes than Mondale but far fewer delegates. Jackson in particular had half as many votes but got a lot less representation in the delegates. It's also why the southern states get to go first in many ways, long term planning by the party to represent the underrepresented.

If it was proportional back then we might have had a Hart/Jackson ticket because they could've combined their delegates in a brokered convention.

I don't know why I didn't consider it when I responded to the OP. It flew under my radar because of how unique it was.

[joshcryer]

3. Obama was the first in a two way race.

And he only had 62 pledged delegates more than Clinton.

[Recursion]

4. Obama in 2012 (nt)

[Sheepshank]

5. Oh I see...Obama needed the Supers. And that was ok.

Hillary needs Supers and it's a rigged system.

got it.

[Ohioblue22]

12. The majority number is 2025