where are Bernie's tax returns? And his disclosure forms? I know he's TOO busy campaigning, but it sure would be nice to know what he is hiding in his returns. Yes, Yes, he's a man of modest means, so what is the hold up?

Xyzse

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6. Even if I prefer Bernie, I don't really see the point in going after the transcripts.

Reply to ViseGrip (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:26 AM

May 2016

I have made no bones about that. There are many other easily verifiable reasons to not vote for Hillary.
-Votes
-Flip flopping
-Pandering
-Way her campaign (Not supporters) acted
-Current positions
-Her actions as Secretary of State

Now that I mentioned those... Unfair or not, the fact that she has done these speeches is definitely a negative on her part. Not that I think that there was anything illegal to them.

The problem with the transcripts to me, (and she will have this negative no matter what) are as follows:

-If she were to release them, no matter what, someone could find something negative about it by taking it out of context. Similar to Bernie's writing when he was younger. When I read them, the context was not about what the characters were thinking, when read in full the message actually means "People hide behind a veneer of respectability, while having not so respectable thoughts". Like the girl fantasizing about being taken by other individuals while being with her partner. In the end, all people could think of was that it was a rape fantasy, not the actual message. I find that ridiculous. Even if there were questionable issues placed in the transcript, it would be blown out of proportion.

-If she were not to release them, the opposition will be able to make up whatever they want in there. They could say anything and it can't be completely refuted. People will believe anything is possible with her, since she is not perceived to be trust worthy.

In balance, I don't really see the point in releasing them since both have a host of negatives that could possibly happen. In many ways, it is easier to deal with it, if what is said can not be verified.

It will still be a negative no matter what. I don't really see it being a positive for her to release the transcripts. Either way, this is one of the many things people can attack her on.

I generally don't go after her for this as I tend to prefer focusing on what can be verified.
It is verified that she gave speeches to Wall Street for Ungodly sums of money, but again, I can not verify the contents other than that I can't help but think that she is beholden to them, and it will affect her decision making(Which Obama in his book does mention how money influences them).