2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary’s Strategy Revealed: Provoke Anger
DU member arendts amazing post You are witnessing the first Stochastic Smearjob is extremely important and we need to take his message seriously.
Thus far, the actions of Hillarys strategists have been unfathomable to Bernie supporters. They wonder how HRC is going to unify the party by insulting and alienating us.
Now we understand the strategy. For me, this realization has changed how I feel and respond to posts on DU. I urge you to join me seeing what is happening clearly, and to adopt an inner quiet and steely determination as we move forward.
The pro-Hillary posts that weve been reading are purposely designed to be dismissive and condescending. They are designed to make us snap. They need us to make big mistakes, because HRC is so weak that she has little chance of winning fair and square. Their dirty tricks are her only chance.
Theyre praying for some kind of media events to shore up their narrative. Lets maintain an extremely courageous, calm, determined and professional attitude. Lets disappoint them.
We dont have to worry about proving that HRC and her organization are deceitful liars. They are. We dont have to worry about proving that the media are siding with HRC. They are. We dont have to worry whether Roberta Lange is just an innocent bystander doing her job. Shes not.
If you are still shocked that the media are capable of such unfairness, it is time to stop internalizing the outrage, and look at what is happening with emotion-free neutrality, like a scientist studying a complex molecule. The system has certain inputs and outputs. What we are seeing is explained by Noam Chomskys book Manufacturing Consent.
A sense of inner calm is going to be crucial moving forward, because the dirty tricks are going to get worse. We need to clearly understand David Brocks goals and be ready for what comes. Do not be surprised by what comes next. Anticipate it.
I see us going into the democratic convention with professional steely intelligence backed up by a big heart. This isnt so much about Bernie as it is about us. Win or lose, they cannot take away who we are. And were not going anywhere. If HRC wins the nomination this time, we are absolutely coming back next time, with better strength and organization and awareness. We will eventually change this system for the better. Patience.
Today, I saw the DU OP You are witnessing HERSTORY which opens with the incendiary She is winning by each and every measure
Instead of getting pissed off, I saw clearly that this was just the latest in a long list of manipulative slights intended to provoke.
Now I understand the machine. And Im not biting.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)unless the alleged victim comes up with police reports.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Those are pretty serious, so there should be a police report filed on them.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)No chairs thrown, no punches thrown. Just election fraud and a clumsy desperate attempt to change the subject afterward.
KPN
(15,642 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)should be NO PROBLEM to hear them played back.
or do most people answer calls from numbers they dont recognize?
scscholar
(2,902 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)cool, calm, collected as we proceed with the Revolution.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)discovered that reality so many years ago now... It hurts. That reminds me: It is time to donate to Bernie again!
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)DebDoo
(319 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Wasn't that the strategy they publicly opined?
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)from there. That funny little socialist nobody from a tiny liberal state started being a contender and there is
no joy in Hillaryville. There's a lot of dirty tactics being cooked up though.
KPN
(15,642 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)the best way of solving numerous problems.
violence WILL be instigated.
those will be folks working for the billionaires and their private prison profit margins.
non-violent advocacy or protest is essential.
anyone provoking something else is trying to screw ya good.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)If you actually knew anything about his history, you'd know that he WAS a part of the VRWC against the Clintons.
Intellectual consistency is hard.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Not everything is a part of the VRWC. Many of the Clinton's issues are a result of the Vast Clinton Hubris Factor.
reddread
(6,896 posts)important.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)Don't forget that the hrc supporters are also targets of these tactics. Many of them are being programmed and triggered in a similar fashion, and they don't realize that what "makes them feel good /smug" about posting is what has been engineered to provoke a response. The "I'm with her" is a perfect example of they type of viral meme that has taken root in supporters and is triggering a lot of their click-bait posts.
Don't take the bait. Their arguments are emotional and not logic - with responses twisted to meet their particular believe system. Tune it out as noise.
trudyco
(1,258 posts)Haha! Your snarky come backs make me laugh!
Msongs, Seabeyond... Hahaha.
Something Gonzalez LOL. Oh, you guys make me smile!
Roberta Lange, if I have your name right, my air hugs and prayers to you.
Same to you Barbara Boxer.
Ah. Now I feel more like a real Democrat. You know, those progressive types who actually want to make the world a fairer, peaceful and better place. That felt good.
Here's to a Moral Economy!
J_J_
(1,213 posts)But other than that, I just can't see why pissing everyone off will help her win.
Is she really a Republican who wants to ruin the Democratic party and throw the election to Trump?
Otherwise, how does this benefit her?
She has created a situation where it is impossible for honest, caring people to vote for her, people with principles.
I don't care how much bullying and Trump blaming they come up with, there is no way in hell that people who are being treated like this are going to vote for her.
So what are the plans? Cheat again in the general?
Because Trump knows how to hire people to manipulate central tabulators too.
This is going to be a very interesting general election.
If there is election fraud on the GOP side, no one will be there to defend Hillary.
bigtree
(85,986 posts)...you don't get prime real estate to rail against our party in a presidential election.
I'm not really sure why you seem to feel you're entitled to do that with impunity, but all I can say is good luck. No one is going to tolerate any of that.
kiva
(4,373 posts)Yup, let have lots of pics of protesters with bloody heads and reporters hit with batons. Only this will be even better since everyone now has the means to take videos and post them online.
Or the DNC could accept that there will be protesters. Given what the state party did in Las Vegas I doubt they will be that smart.
J_J_
(1,213 posts)Denial will not fool people who have seen it with their own eyes.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)YOU CHEATED! The words used by frustrated, over-entitled toddlers everywhere when they lose.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Nice try though.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I read the earlier OP ... and remain clueless.
polly7
(20,582 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Not going to change any minds.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)I actually saw a discussion on Bloomberg last week about the new HRC strategy.
Make Bernie look as crazy dangerous as Trump, so that HRC can swoop in as the "safe" candidate.
And that is exactly what we are seeing, and it is going to involve a lot of ratfucking from them.
Vinca
(50,258 posts)Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)Trashing threads is a good option and don't reply to people who are doing NOTHING other than trying to rile everyone up, stir the pot, etc. They will have a rude awakening soon enough.
pansypoo53219
(20,969 posts)AmBlue
(3,108 posts)Sharing them far and wide.