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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:50 PM May 2016

Finally -- Video of the "Chair Being Thrown"

shows that someone lifted a chair and then released it for another person to put it back on the floor. It was NEVER thrown. No one was hit or injured. It was blown way out of proportion to avoid talking about the real crime:


The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.

The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.

The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.

The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.


Video:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1

A lie can get half way around the world before the Truth can get its cellphone video uploaded to social media. - W Churchill
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Finally -- Video of the "Chair Being Thrown" (Original Post) GreatGazoo May 2016 OP
Somehow that's supposed to be better?! REALLY?! "..they didn't toss rocks they just picked them up!" uponit7771 May 2016 #1
Does you have a sad now? would you have rather it had been thrown? azurnoir May 2016 #2
Give him or her a break kaleckim May 2016 #7
Here is a video by the women who filmed the chair video: No Chairs Thrown at the Nevada Convention w4rma May 2016 #59
excellent GreatGazoo May 2016 #121
No sad for violent thugs, just don't want them around me uponit7771 May 2016 #9
Thugs? weren't we told that was a racial dog whistle and not for white folks either ? azurnoir May 2016 #11
Don't know what you were told when I just saw a buncha straight up hoodlums (that better?) uponit7771 May 2016 #15
all depends on your sensibilities I guess azurnoir May 2016 #18
Don't waste your time on him/her.. pangaia May 2016 #102
Agreed. I put people on inner ignore, but read them all. If we all libdem4life May 2016 #127
any comment on the rules that were violated or the theft of the Nevada caucus? GreatGazoo May 2016 #3
Clinton Won NV with more votes, end of story? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #10
Nice try, but that's not what they were angry about. Fawke Em May 2016 #21
Unnnnn, we'll see... my understanding is the Sanders people wanted something placed into the rules uponit7771 May 2016 #24
I watched the video and it didn't look at all like a gesture to throw a chair. Alex4Martinez May 2016 #5
Right, they picked up the chair to look for gum on the bottom of it :rolleyes:. The yelling of vile uponit7771 May 2016 #14
he prefers actors attacking people timmymoff May 2016 #31
Well, the actor is black, so perhaps there's a racial component involved here. frylock May 2016 #141
I think you need to open the garage door TheSarcastinator May 2016 #34
I'm running reality, that's not a car and the sad thing is Sanders camp can't tell the difference uponit7771 May 2016 #40
What a ridiculous comment. How many people get hurt when you pull out a chair for your wife/date? floriduck May 2016 #39
they didn't pull out a chair he lifted it up in the air and it wasn't to see the bottom of it uponit7771 May 2016 #42
Big fucking deal. I'm sure you've never been so upset you had to stop yourself. What floriduck May 2016 #46
NO!! FUCK NO... I'm 6'5, 250lbs and black... I do some shit like that I get shot dead. so prilileged uponit7771 May 2016 #51
So that's your excuse for making a stupid statement? Sorry you have to deal with that. Really. floriduck May 2016 #56
Picking up and chair into the air during a contensious time is seen as violent enough but as long as uponit7771 May 2016 #61
That's it. You're learning. floriduck May 2016 #65
Yes, yes, yes, actually. Picking up a rock isn't violence in any sense of the word. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #66
lol... during a contentious situation somehow picking up something heavy is benign!? wow uponit7771 May 2016 #70
For "6'5 and 250 pounds" you must be exceedingly weak if you think that chair was heavy. Giggity May 2016 #83
Cause a partially metal chair weighs what? a couple of ounces? Do you even read what you type? uponit7771 May 2016 #137
"partially metal" A beer can is completely metal. Giggity May 2016 #144
Yes. It's always good to expose lies, don't you agree? DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #76
lol. n/t. okieinpain May 2016 #119
The state Chair just got the cry baby chair aspirant May 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #6
This is all being played out with the intent of effecting the vote in CA. frylock May 2016 #142
Wait...I heard that multiple chair*S* were thrown, QC May 2016 #8
Rachel said it on her show. pdsimdars May 2016 #60
And we know she would never try to pump up HRC. QC May 2016 #62
Slight correction...she USED to be a journalist. Now she's a Comcast employee. libdem4life May 2016 #130
wonder if she'll get Politifacted? nashville_brook May 2016 #138
It was a veritable volley of invisible objects. Srsly! n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #68
! QC May 2016 #72
The quote that ran in the AP story was, and remember per Clinton rules we must parse this, GreatGazoo May 2016 #122
I didn't realize what a big deal this was dana_b May 2016 #12
I've seen and read as much as I could find on this, and yes ... you are right! nt. polly7 May 2016 #27
This particular chair didn't get thrown, because someone stopped that guy in time. YouDig May 2016 #13
Chair throwing "other rioters" should surface soon aspirant May 2016 #30
More lies from you. Do you ever say anything honest? arcane1 May 2016 #77
It's the absolute truth, and widely reported. Only in the Bernie world does video of one man being YouDig May 2016 #81
And perhaps by your logic a Jewish wedding is a "chair throwing" riot GreatGazoo May 2016 #126
Did you even read the tweet lol! NWCorona May 2016 #16
Yes, a warm and friendly drunken rioter! He was about to throw a chair, but then someone stopped him YouDig May 2016 #19
Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth but NWCorona May 2016 #23
There's tons of evidence violence happened. Multiple eyewitnesses. And now video of YouDig May 2016 #25
I haven't seen anything remotely concrete. NWCorona May 2016 #33
if there is "tons" of evidence, you shouldn't have any problem producing some of it TheSarcastinator May 2016 #36
I have no problem, check NYT,WP,Ap, and so on. Widely reported. YouDig May 2016 #41
There you go again, pulling things outta your ass mindwalker_i May 2016 #47
Google is easy. For most people. YouDig May 2016 #48
Which, again, is "Go look for it" mindwalker_i May 2016 #52
Hey, nobody's getting paid around here to google stuff!!!! n/t QC May 2016 #63
No kidding mindwalker_i May 2016 #64
Perhaps a cookie, but no chance he'll get a pizza, QC May 2016 #69
No soda, though. That's too tempting a projectile. LOL. libdem4life May 2016 #131
It's part of the instructions for Brock's online trolls: provide no evidence. n/t arcane1 May 2016 #79
The point is not to engage in meaningful discussion QC May 2016 #135
There is no evidence to provide AgingAmerican May 2016 #145
Provide the evidence or go back to blowing sock puppets arcane1 May 2016 #84
"drunken rioter" was he given a sobriety test aspirant May 2016 #35
You seem obsessed with this guy. Brock-puppets are usually more various in their lies. arcane1 May 2016 #78
Not really, there's already ample evidence of the violence and rioting that occurred. YouDig May 2016 #82
Provide the evidence, liar. arcane1 May 2016 #85
NYT, WP, AP, Nation, everywhere. In the real world, this isn't even a point of contention. YouDig May 2016 #86
You have nothing but lies and ignorance. arcane1 May 2016 #89
I have reports from all the leading newspapers in the country. YouDig May 2016 #90
Post the "reports", genius. arcane1 May 2016 #91
You can't use google? I'll post the NYT link, you can look up the rest yourself. YouDig May 2016 #93
You can't post evidence? arcane1 May 2016 #94
I just did. NYT story. Also widely reported elsewhere. YouDig May 2016 #95
More lies. arcane1 May 2016 #96
NYT story. Accuse them of lying if you want, this is why nobody believes Bernie people. YouDig May 2016 #97
I'm accusing you of lying. A semi-intelligent person would pick up on that. arcane1 May 2016 #99
And I'm quoting the NYT verbatim, which means you're accusing them. YouDig May 2016 #100
You clearly don't know the definition of words like "quote" and "verbatim" arcane1 May 2016 #104
There's a different definition in Bernopia? How funny. YouDig May 2016 #106
Sorry, I don't have all day to play with toys. arcane1 May 2016 #114
Because you are very important. YouDig May 2016 #115
I am indeed. You are not. arcane1 May 2016 #117
Really? :..( Well I think I am. So there! YouDig May 2016 #118
No ambiguity? The first sentence HAS NO SUBJECT! I call ambiguity! immoderate May 2016 #120
Just trying to up his/her post total...quickly by putting out hysterical hypotheses. libdem4life May 2016 #132
As per their instructions n/t arcane1 May 2016 #136
Picking up a chair... Giggity May 2016 #87
Meanwhile, Clinton's crew literally commits violence and the trolls are silent arcane1 May 2016 #92
This is not smart. I would just keep my mouth shut at this point. kcr May 2016 #17
So if there was no violence and only frustration and anger, aspirant May 2016 #43
Hmmmm where have I heard about chairs before....oh I remember! pinebox May 2016 #20
In the meantime, a Hillarystan actually assaulted a Bernie supporter. Ain't THAT some chit?! nc4bo May 2016 #22
I had it pooh-poohed away because it wasn't 'domestic violence'. polly7 May 2016 #26
You don't see the difference between a state convention ContinentalOp May 2016 #37
Sure there's a difference. One supports Hill, the others not so much. nc4bo May 2016 #49
You conveniently forgot about the death threats workinclasszero May 2016 #28
Where are the arrests? aspirant May 2016 #44
I heard Brock's looking for the letter "B" girl, circa 2008, wants to know if she'll lamb herself nc4bo May 2016 #54
Where's the police report on that? mindwalker_i May 2016 #50
Here are the heroes of the revolution in action..terrorizing woman and children workinclasszero May 2016 #55
And the proof of where these came from is where? mindwalker_i May 2016 #67
Jezabel calls up Bernie supporters who threatened Nev. State Chair: workinclasszero May 2016 #73
Fair enough, there's one mindwalker_i May 2016 #80
I have no idea workinclasszero May 2016 #88
Nice dodge mindwalker_i May 2016 #98
Its all over the news media, its not just me. workinclasszero May 2016 #109
Because I can trust McPravda as far as I can throw it nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #113
Uh, yeah, they got a real good look mindwalker_i May 2016 #134
Saddam's WMDs were all over the news media as well. frylock May 2016 #143
Yes, you can request them nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #105
Oh and lets not forget about the vandalism of the democratic HQ in Nevada workinclasszero May 2016 #57
And there are actually legal cases, even one federal from Orlando nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #107
You cannot deface private property damn! workinclasszero May 2016 #111
Defacing means PERMANET that is the statue nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #112
How about the shots through Sanders campaign office front window? Did you forget that? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #71
Got proof? Pictures? Video? Sound recording? workinclasszero May 2016 #74
Yes, A police report. I got that. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #75
Karl Rove is laughing his ASS off watching this. He cant BELEIVE the gift being handed to him. Actor May 2016 #29
The truth means as much to the Clinton supporters as the lives of Iraqis mean to Mrs Clinton Doctor_J May 2016 #32
Ah, so unless there's video Sanders supporters won't accept reality. LOLZ KittyWampus May 2016 #38
Where are the arrests? aspirant May 2016 #45
Kindlhy direct me to the arrest logs nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #101
So now they are just blatantly deathrind May 2016 #53
And the media was way too eager to accept the big fat Clinton campaign LIE. pdsimdars May 2016 #58
CNN still tried to play it that way this morning nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #103
That was not the moment people were referring to...stay with us here, not relevant. nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #108
-sigh- So, kinda like the story about being shot at, at the tarmac then? Xyzse May 2016 #110
Kinda odd that Mr. Chair-Chucker relinquishes the chair without a struggle, nor winter is coming May 2016 #116
The women in this video give more detail about that person GreatGazoo May 2016 #123
Thanks so much for posting this! Definitely worth a watch, for everyone. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #125
w4rma posted it and I agree GreatGazoo May 2016 #128
OK, can we all move on past the chair now and address the other ugly behavior? apnu May 2016 #124
Ok ... Nobody should be called names Trajan May 2016 #133
I found a video of a Bernie Bro threatening to murder a Clinton supporter Capt. Obvious May 2016 #129
Maybe the Berner thought the chair was free? CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #139
But that does not fit the rule for propaganda exploitation. kentuck May 2016 #140

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
1. Somehow that's supposed to be better?! REALLY?! "..they didn't toss rocks they just picked them up!"
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:52 PM
May 2016

...wow

Well, please continue Mr Sanders

kaleckim

(651 posts)
7. Give him or her a break
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:57 PM
May 2016

They have spent the last few days blatantly lying and really need reality to bend a bit for them. The "English only" lies didn't force reality to change enough, so maybe Photoshop can come to the rescue?

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
59. Here is a video by the women who filmed the chair video: No Chairs Thrown at the Nevada Convention
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

If you heard in the mainstream press that Bernie supporters were violent at the Nevada state Democratic convention, you were lied to.

No chairs were thrown. There were no assaults or threats. This video shows what REALLY happened.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. Thugs? weren't we told that was a racial dog whistle and not for white folks either ?
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016

uponit7771
9. No sad for violent thugs, just don't want them around me

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1993988

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
127. Agreed. I put people on inner ignore, but read them all. If we all
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:29 PM
May 2016

did that, they'd go away as quickly as they've come. Like my Dad used to say, consider the source.

No attention for silly posters from me.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
21. Nice try, but that's not what they were angry about.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

When I have time, I'll try to transcribe what Erin Bilbray said on Thom Hartmann's show - or maybe it will be available later today or tomorrow.

Bernie supporters were angry at the way the DNC was trying to change the rules and find ways to keep Bernie supporters out of the process. This wasn't about the delegate vote.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
24. Unnnnn, we'll see... my understanding is the Sanders people wanted something placed into the rules
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

... and the chair didn't want to hear it despite the floor vote and it had to do with getting more Sanders delegates into the process.

we'll see

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
5. I watched the video and it didn't look at all like a gesture to throw a chair.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

A man lifted a chair up high, possibly to make a statement about the convention "chair", maybe as a gesture to suggest unseating the chair or seating a new chair or even encouraging people to sit and calm down.

There really is no suggestion whatsoever that this person was preparing to throw that chair.
What a silly idea and how ridiculous that it was promoted on the Internet as someone throwing chairs.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
14. Right, they picked up the chair to look for gum on the bottom of it :rolleyes:. The yelling of vile
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016

... names, posting a persons private contact info so she can get death threats, vandalism but dammit "we didn't throw no chairs !!"

bunch thugs

frylock

(34,825 posts)
141. Well, the actor is black, so perhaps there's a racial component involved here.
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

This poster doesn't appear to think very highly of white people, maybe even hates them.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
34. I think you need to open the garage door
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

Running the car in an enclosed space seems to be causing you some problems.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
39. What a ridiculous comment. How many people get hurt when you pull out a chair for your wife/date?
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
46. Big fucking deal. I'm sure you've never been so upset you had to stop yourself. What
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

a self righteous statement.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
51. NO!! FUCK NO... I'm 6'5, 250lbs and black... I do some shit like that I get shot dead. so prilileged
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
61. Picking up and chair into the air during a contensious time is seen as violent enough but as long as
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

... it wasn't thrown all the other bullshit that went on in NV is not ok

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
65. That's it. You're learning.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

But the other bullshit like what Roberta Lange did was disgusting and crooked. No crookedness, no picking up of chairs. See how that works?

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
66. Yes, yes, yes, actually. Picking up a rock isn't violence in any sense of the word.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

It is a convenient lie, that the media is happy to repeat, to obfuscate the true crimes.

 

Giggity

(86 posts)
144. "partially metal" A beer can is completely metal.
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

Do you refer to the time between sips as "resting before your next set"?

Response to GreatGazoo (Original post)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
142. This is all being played out with the intent of effecting the vote in CA.
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:16 PM
May 2016

She is going to lose here in Cali. They're doing what they can in hopes of mitigating that loss.

QC

(26,371 posts)
8. Wait...I heard that multiple chair*S* were thrown,
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:57 PM
May 2016

in addition to other objects.

All of this was was reported by a journalist who wasn't actually there, so it must be true.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
122. The quote that ran in the AP story was, and remember per Clinton rules we must parse this,
Reply to QC (Reply #8)
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

...tension with organizers led to some Bernie Sanders supporters throwing chairs and to security clearing the room, organizers said.


http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/89ae8247abe8493fae24405546e9a1aa/Article_2016-05-15-US--DEM%202016-Nevada/id-c3b7ab9ad09a47ecae4ac614538a4915

So the truth of the statement rests not on whether any chair(s) were actually thrown but rather on whether or not "organizers" made the statement that included that allegation which is not supported by video.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
12. I didn't realize what a big deal this was
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016

I've had the video in my twitter feed since Saturday night. ANyway, the one guy talks the guy with the chair down and then he puts the chair down. No big deal!

The "big deal", I just realized, was caused by the NV Dem leadership. Disgusting.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
13. This particular chair didn't get thrown, because someone stopped that guy in time.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016

I guess by #bernielogic, the fact that this individual chair was never airborne implies that none of the other rioters threw chairs either.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
81. It's the absolute truth, and widely reported. Only in the Bernie world does video of one man being
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:07 PM
May 2016

restrained from throwing the chair prove that no other chairs were thrown. The logic is perverse. But that's why his campaign is losing. You can fool some people some of the time.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
126. And perhaps by your logic a Jewish wedding is a "chair throwing" riot
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

Oh, the humanity !....



Seriously, I found video of the chair incident. It turned out to be extremely mild. It does not help our Party or our candidates to continue spreading the myth that "chairs were thrown."

Your clinging to that myth in the face of evidence to the contrary makes you seem less than reasonable.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
16. Did you even read the tweet lol!
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:02 PM
May 2016

I think that video shows a very frustrated guy who came to his senses and was consoled by a fellow support.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
19. Yes, a warm and friendly drunken rioter! He was about to throw a chair, but then someone stopped him
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:04 PM
May 2016

Nothing wrong with that, just regular human behavior!

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
23. Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth but
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:10 PM
May 2016

The fact is the chair wasn't thrown and there's zero evidence that anything violent happened that night. Yes it was unruly and bordered on crass at times. Meanwhile we have a man who was actually arrested for assault an a woman no less (extreme weaknesses) and if that would have been a Bernie supporter....

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
25. There's tons of evidence violence happened. Multiple eyewitnesses. And now video of
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:12 PM
May 2016

someone threatening to throw a chair, which in itself is an act of violence. The tortured #bernielogic it takes to look at this video and actually think it makes the angry drunken mob look good is really something to behold.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
41. I have no problem, check NYT,WP,Ap, and so on. Widely reported.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

Jon Ralston reported multiple eyewitnesses. Roberta Lange witnessed it. Only those in deep denial and conspiracy are denying at this point.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
47. There you go again, pulling things outta your ass
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

When someone asks for evidence, your reply is, "Go look for it."

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
78. You seem obsessed with this guy. Brock-puppets are usually more various in their lies.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:05 PM
May 2016

Not a word about the Clinton supporter arrested for assaulting a woman who supports Sanders?

Trolls gotta troll!

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
82. Not really, there's already ample evidence of the violence and rioting that occurred.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

But Bernie people are using this video as "proof" that none of the other rioters threw any chairs either despite all the witnesses who saw them.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
90. I have reports from all the leading newspapers in the country.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

You need to understand, it's only a tiny fraction of people who truly believe they are all in a conspiracy against Bernie. It's pretty out there. You get into the groupthink, and it seems normal to believe stuff like that, but it's not.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
104. You clearly don't know the definition of words like "quote" and "verbatim"
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

Didn't your starter kit come with a dictionary?

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
120. No ambiguity? The first sentence HAS NO SUBJECT! I call ambiguity!
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:50 PM
May 2016

"Thrown chairs." is not a sentence. And you may say I'm nit-picking, but surely you can't claim it's not ambiguous.

--imm

kcr

(15,315 posts)
17. This is not smart. I would just keep my mouth shut at this point.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:02 PM
May 2016

If it got so bad that that guy picked up a chair, there's no telling what else happened. Picking up a chair and threatening to throw it IS violent. Someone witnessing this in the chaos would interpret this as a threat. It would have been a confusing, frightening moment. No, it's not likely lots of chairs were flying around or that would indeed likely show up on video, but just because there isn't the exact moment of an actual chair flying through the air caught on someone's phone doesn't mean there was no violence.

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
43. So if there was no violence and only frustration and anger,
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:24 PM
May 2016

why weren't counselors called to the scene?

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
22. In the meantime, a Hillarystan actually assaulted a Bernie supporter. Ain't THAT some chit?!
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

Defend THAT oh corrupted ones!

polly7

(20,582 posts)
26. I had it pooh-poohed away because it wasn't 'domestic violence'.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:12 PM
May 2016

Or something ... still can't figure that one out, but there wasn't one word of concern for the much smaller woman brutalized by the much larger male Clinton supporter.

Hypocrisy ........ it's a thing.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
37. You don't see the difference between a state convention
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:20 PM
May 2016

And some drunks in a hotel hallway at 3 in the morning?

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
49. Sure there's a difference. One supports Hill, the others not so much.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:28 PM
May 2016

An assault vs. an untossed chair plus Clinton, Inc.'s ever growing pile of fresh bullshit.

Yall better get busy cleaning that up or the entire campaign will get lost in it.



nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
54. I heard Brock's looking for the letter "B" girl, circa 2008, wants to know if she'll lamb herself
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:31 PM
May 2016

For a cool million!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
73. Jezabel calls up Bernie supporters who threatened Nev. State Chair:
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

The first was a man from Atlanta, who called Lange a “corrupt bitch” and texted her, “Someone will hurt you.”

Atlanta Man declined to give his name when I reached him. He sounded weary and embarrassed. He said he’d been getting phone calls all day.

“Most of them are just hangups,” he said. “I’ve gotten threats on Twitter, too. But I don’t make a big deal out of that stuff. All I can say is that I’ve apologized to her and I’m sorry. I said one thing I guess that somebody took as a threat.”

“What was your actual intention?” I asked.

“I can’t really say for sure if there was an intention on that,” he replied. “I don’t really want to say too much.”

He was “of a younger age,” he explained—older than 18 but younger than 25. “This is our first primary,” he said. “And watching the convention on Saturday, watching the livestream, was very frustrating. I think there were a lot of people who were angry. But I don’t personally have anything against anybody. I never had any intentions of any negative actions or anything like that. I made that very clear. A lot of people are angry.”

I asked if he would’ve done the same thing if he knew people would be able to call him back.

“I wouldn’t have done it had I not been hyped up and angry,” he said. “ But I’m not saying I did anything. I’m not saying I made any threats. I had no intention of threatening anyone.”

http://theslot.jezebel.com/we-called-up-bernie-fans-who-threatened-nevada-dem-stat-1777177985

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107137373 Thanks sufrommich (21,487 posts)

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
98. Nice dodge
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

There is no evidence of death threats, just hearsay from campaign well known for lying.

As for the one guy, he shouldn't have said what he said. A bigger issue is that the chair of the convention shouldn't have done what she did, and I can understand people being quite upset over it. Death threats? No evidence. The graffiti? Not a big deal, plus we don't know who did that.

On edit: did anyone claiming to have received a death threat say they called the police and filed a report? Anything other than the claim that it happened?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
109. Its all over the news media, its not just me.
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016

Thousands of democrats got a real good look at Bernie for the first time when he made excuses for lawbreaking the other day.

"But..."

That should be the epitaph of his fail campaign.

Ignore it if you will.

I guess Sanders has to break a few eggs to make his revolution omelet eh?

Sickening.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
134. Uh, yeah, they got a real good look
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

This campaign by Hillary has been nasty. There will be a lot of people leaving the democratic party after all of it, and a whole lot will be so turned off that they won't support her. After the amount of corruption that has been made plain, this is a good thing.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
143. Saddam's WMDs were all over the news media as well.
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

Perhaps, like your stupid candidate, you believed that shit as well.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
57. Oh and lets not forget about the vandalism of the democratic HQ in Nevada
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:33 PM
May 2016


Graffiti reading "Roberta Lange murdered democracy," "You are scum," and "Cheating is not winning."
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
107. And there are actually legal cases, even one federal from Orlando
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:29 PM
May 2016

that call that FREE SPEECH. since there is no permanent damage. Statue, you can google it and read it.

I will grant you this, in the new America we are rushing towards, that will be criminalized, but for the moment it is not. My posting will be criminalized. Watch what you say. not just for Republcians anymore.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
111. You cannot deface private property damn!
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:35 PM
May 2016

You people are so damn.............................!

So if a mob comes over to your house and defaces it all over with vile sayings in chalk, you have no case in court?

Is this the BS you all are trying to peddle now?

What a **ckin joke!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
112. Defacing means PERMANET that is the statue
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:37 PM
May 2016

I cover courts.

You should though join my local City Attorney's office, he has been losing those cases, since Occupy, and thankfully he is termed out. And yes, one even went to the jury. The rest were thrown out in the preliminary hearing stage.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
32. The truth means as much to the Clinton supporters as the lives of Iraqis mean to Mrs Clinton
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:17 PM
May 2016

herself. They will continue to blare "a Bernie Bro threw a chair" until another lie can be cooked up for the next poutrage. It is horrifying that so many "democrats" are this immoral.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
38. Ah, so unless there's video Sanders supporters won't accept reality. LOLZ
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016
Meanwhile you excuse doxxing and death threats to children.
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
58. And the media was way too eager to accept the big fat Clinton campaign LIE.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

It's all they do. How do the Clinton supporters accept all the lies and smears. They ALL get proven to be wrong. And yet, they don't seem to even notice. What does that say about them?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
103. CNN still tried to play it that way this morning
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

and got pushback. They are pushing back also on what happened and chiefly why... .it is process people, and that is a crack you heard.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
110. -sigh- So, kinda like the story about being shot at, at the tarmac then?
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:34 PM
May 2016

Disappointing, and yet, they barely even mention the reasons there was such an outcry to begin with.

Getting wrapped up on the reaction not bothering to look at what provoked it.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
116. Kinda odd that Mr. Chair-Chucker relinquishes the chair without a struggle, nor
Wed May 18, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016

does he seem in any hurry to get close to the stage, his supposed target. I would have expected someone angry enough to throw a chair would try to rush the stage, or resist being stopped. Perhaps his goal wasn't actually throwing anything??

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
123. The women in this video give more detail about that person
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:17 PM
May 2016

and what they saw happen. Also some much needed perspective on the respect between supporters of different candidates.



apnu

(8,756 posts)
124. OK, can we all move on past the chair now and address the other ugly behavior?
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:23 PM
May 2016

I've been ignoring the fucking chair. The convention floor was a hot mess of angry childish behavior. Calling Barbra Boxer a bitch? This is what the left has become? Hurling sexist insults at a feminist icon?

Harassing the employer of Roberta Lange? Trying to ruin that business because she works there?

I posted a few times yesterday on DU about cyberbullying and harassment of women at the Nevada convention. A few Bernie people went out of their way to blame the victims of harassment. Saying the threats are justified because of what the NV Dems party did in response to the open hostility on the convention floor. I asked them directly to denounce cyberbullying and they flat out refused to do so.

I voted for Bernie in my state's primary, but Bernie supporters have lost me.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
133. Ok ... Nobody should be called names
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016

But, I take issue with this: sweeping generalization fallacy

This is what the left has become?

How many people used the term 'bitch' ? ...

If it was millions, then you have a point ..

Was it thousands of people? ... Hundreds? ... Tens?

Was I there? (No) ... I'm of the left ...

Did I call her a 'bitch' ?

What percentage of the 'left' called her a bitch?

100% ?

50?
20?
10?
5?
1?
0.000000000001%?

So, let's return to your statement:

This is what the left has become?

The left is just fine ... You don't condemn a whole entire population when 0.000000000001% of that population are bad people ..

Yet, according to you ...The 'left' has some sort of stain on it's collective soul ....

We are all damned, because 0.000000000001% of 'leftists' called some ANTI-Democratic Party Member a ... Bad word ....

Sweeping generalizations are commonly used by brigands and shysters of all types ... You just joined the club ...

And now to Iggyville with you ... It's another club you now belong to ...

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
140. But that does not fit the rule for propaganda exploitation.
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

When some people want to believe something else.

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