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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:10 PM May 2016

In Shock Poll, Sanders Leads Trump In Georgia

A Democratic friend called to make sure I saw the great news that likely Democratic Hillary Clinton had pulled to within 4 percentage points of presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump in Georgia, according to a poll from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. My friend was right. That poll did show Trump with 45 percent and Clinton with 41 percent. It is good news that Clinton could be poised to make a bid to win Georgia's electoral votes.

And then, looking deeper at The Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll, I saw something even more interesting — indeed fascinating and shocking. The poll found Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) defeating Trump outright, with Sanders getting 47 percent and Trump lagging behind with only 42 percent! According to this new and highly reputable poll, Sanders could well be the favorite to win Georgia's electoral votes in a Trump vs. Sanders race, until another poll provides different results, which may or may not happen.

There are two key points behind this shocking Georgia poll. The first is that in this poll of Georgians, Sanders runs 9 points stronger than Clinton in a match-up against Trump, a pattern that has been repeated in many other states. The second key point is that Sanders runs far stronger than Trump in general election match-up polling nationally, almost always beating Trump by landslide double-digit margins.

All Democrats and serious political commentators should give far more attention and focus to why almost all polling suggests that Sanders would defeat Trump by landslide margins (and also have defeated the other Republican candidates formerly running, almost all by powerfully large margins).

One reason Sanders runs stronger than Clinton against Republicans, and far stronger than Republican opponents in match-up polling, is that he is seen as more authentic, honorable, and sincere than any GOP opponent.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/280345-in-shock-poll-sanders-leads-trump-in-georgia

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In Shock Poll, Sanders Leads Trump In Georgia (Original Post) Purveyor May 2016 OP
Sanders fame has gone to his head: He need to get out lewebley3 May 2016 #1
I see this a lot SheenaR May 2016 #5
but he's pushing an agenda for the poor too and if that took hold azurnoir May 2016 #15
Not a shock to those who pay attention SheenaR May 2016 #2
Sanders has lost his bid to be the nominee. Therefore, GE polls involving Sanders are irrelevant. Trust Buster May 2016 #3
Facts not in evidence. nt NWCorona May 2016 #9
What is a "shock poll?" MineralMan May 2016 #4
Normally I would agree but this is somewhat shocking. NWCorona May 2016 #8
Here's what it is SheenaR May 2016 #11
Mark my words NWCorona May 2016 #6
So Georgia COULD be in play dana_b May 2016 #7
Dukakis Lead Widens, According to New Poll (July 26, 1988) BeyondGeography May 2016 #10
Yes SheenaR May 2016 #12
Mud happens BeyondGeography May 2016 #14
Polls that show Bernie leading in Southern states are worth zero jzodda May 2016 #13
BS. Georgia knows Bernie quite well. Dawgs May 2016 #16
No No jzodda May 2016 #17

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
5. I see this a lot
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:13 PM
May 2016

I don't get it. He is pushing an agenda for the middle class. He consistently reminds his audience that this is about them. Where is this ego and lust for fame I read about so frequently here? Serious question and I would love to hear your opinion without getting into a pissing contest.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. but he's pushing an agenda for the poor too and if that took hold
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:20 PM
May 2016

where would a certain candidates alma mater Walmart get it's labor supply from?

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
2. Not a shock to those who pay attention
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

Sanders would destroy Trump.

But. but... not vetted?

They could put him in a picture with Hugo Chavez and it won't match what we will have on Trump

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
8. Normally I would agree but this is somewhat shocking.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

I will admit I haven't looked at the methodology yet.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
6. Mark my words
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:13 PM
May 2016

If this trend continues with Hillary sliding against trump with Bernie holding if not gaining. Superdelegates will notice. That's unless they are willing to have trump as president.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
12. Yes
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

And if we had a Lee Atwater Mike would have held that lead.

He wanted to remain out of the mud. That didnt work

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
13. Polls that show Bernie leading in Southern states are worth zero
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

All it says is that the people of Georgia don't really know Sanders yet. Clinton won that state a long time ago and early in the primary process.

There has been little to no negative advertising being run on Bernie there so people have a wide open opinion.

I find it hard to believe that the white voters of Georgia will flock to Sanders once they find out about his new deal type policy positions.

Trump and the R's will hammer away at the conservative electorate. I don't think he can win Georgia. On the other hand with very high turnout by minorities along with unhappy evangelicals staying home in disgust over Trump? I think HRC has a shot there.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
16. BS. Georgia knows Bernie quite well.
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:33 PM
May 2016

I see 20 bumper stickers to every one for Hillary.

And, obviously you don't, but ALL of his "new deal policies" are already very popular with Americans and Republicans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/12/bernie-sanders-says-americans-back-his-agenda-and-hes-mostly-right/

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
17. No No
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

I support new deal policies. I don't know how its "obvious" that I don't but I stand by what I said.

Sanders would not win there.

Clinton will most likely NOT win there either.

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